Mega Rad Gun Thread

Taser Confetti said:
I can’t wait for that piece of shit to be on Forgotten Weapons as the shortest lived service rifle.
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Until you see what they replace it with.

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Speaking of, have those things been fully deployed throughout the military? Will they be primary for the soon-to-be ground troops in Iran? Got a bad feeling.
 
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The only deal I've ever gotten from a gun show was a kit build Jukar Kentucky Pistol from the 70's that I got for $80 since it was missing a ramrod. Worth it only because now I can dual wield muzzleloading pistols like a pirate.
 
SaidNoOneEver said:
Until you see what they replace it with.

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Speaking of, have those things been fully deployed throughout the military? Will they be primary for the soon-to-be ground troops in Iran? Got a bad feeling.
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Nope. Only the Army is using them and only part of the Army.

Literally every other branch uses 5.56mm M4A1s or H&K 416s.
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
But also there will be many fudds saying how great it is just like the praise the m14 gets.
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As long as we kill it before it reaches basic training units I think we can avoid creating neo-boomers. It's like an inverse m14, the m14 was what they carried during bct and never had to fight with it, so it has this mystical status to them. The m7 is this heavy pos you get stuck with after carrying something lighter and more accurate for however long osut was.
 
JimJams1998 said:
As long as we kill it before it reaches basic training units I think we can avoid creating neo-boomers. It's like an inverse m14, the m14 was what they carried during bct and never had to fight with it, so it has this mystical status to them. The m7 is this heavy pos you get stuck with after carrying something lighter and more accurate for however long osut was.
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My grandpa liked the M14 he had in Vietnam. He HATED the M1 Garand he had in basic.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
My grandpa liked the M14 he had in Vietnam. He HATED the M1 Garand he had in basic.
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Every boomer I met who loved it had the 14 during basic and then got an m16 during nam and hated it because of all the vietnam related issues. I guess I could see liking the m14 if you went from enblocks to magazines for combat, but all the old people at the vfw who I met never used the thing in combat.
 
I guess I'll add my belated 3/08 contribution: my LMT MWS308 and my LRB M-14S/Mk14 Mod0 build. If you like the M-14 LRB is the way to go. They're one of the few M-14 makers out there building them to original USGI spec with properly forged bolts, op rods, and receivers. Most, like Springfield, use castings that are machined much thicker than forged parts are. The trigger group on mine is a match set of Harrington and Richardson parts and is a nice trigger.

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Terrible news in the GunCAD community, Brazilian Dev of the Urutau Bullpup PCC/SMG Joseph The Parrot has been arrested as part of "Operation Shadowgun" by Brazilian Law Enforcement.


The Civil Police of RJ, the Public Prosecutor's Office of Rio (MPRJ), and the Ministry of Justice and Public Security launched Operation Shadowgun on Thursday (12), targeting an interstate scheme of production and sale of weapons manufactured with 3D printers.

As of the latest update of this report, 4 men had been arrested — including the one identified as the gang leader, found in Rio das Pedras (SP).

Agents went out to execute 5 arrest warrants in São Paulo and 36 search and seizure warrants in SP, RJ, and 9 other states. All those sought were indicted by the MPRJ.

According to investigations by the 32nd Police District (Taquara) and the Cybercrime Fighting Unit of the Special Action Group to Combat Organized Crime (CyberGaeco/MPRJ), the group mainly produced and sold 3D-printed firearm magazines, in addition to sharing projects for "ghost guns" — which have no traceability.

The accused will answer in court for the crimes of criminal organization, money laundering, and illegal firearms trading.

The operation has the support of the Cyber Operations Laboratory (Ciberlab) of the Ministry of Justice and Public Security, the Brazilian Intelligence Agency (Abin), and civil police officers from the other 10 states.

The proceedings began after an international organization shared with Ciberlab an alert about social media posts offering homemade printed weapons.

The main product disseminated by the group is a 3D printed semi-automatic weapon. The project was publicized with a detailed technical manual and an "ideological manifesto" defending the unrestricted carrying of weapons.

According to the Civil Police, the head of the organization is an engineer specializing in control and automation. Using a nickname and always masked, he posted on social networks ballistic tests, design updates and guidance on calibration and assembly of the weapons.

The man even created a manual with more than 100 pages detailing the manufacturing process, which would allow people with intermediate knowledge in 3D printing to produce the weaponry with low-cost equipment at home.

Investigations indicate that the material circulated on social networks, in forums, and on the dark web. The group also used cryptocurrencies to finance the activities.

The task force identified three other members of the scheme. Each one had a specific role:

"direct technical support";
ideological dissemination and coordination;
propaganda and visual identity.
For the police, the organization had a clear division of tasks and combined knowledge in engineering, 3D printing, and digital security to enable the production and dissemination of the weapons.

The investigation identified that the material was traded with 79 buyers between 2021 and 2022.

The clients are spread across 11 states. According to the investigation, many have criminal records, mainly for drug trafficking and other serious offenses.

The police are investigating whether the material supplied organized crime, including drug trafficking and militias. One of the buyers is in jail after being caught with a large quantity of weapons and ammunition.

In Rio de Janeiro, 10 buyers were identified in cities such as São Francisco de Itabapoana, Araruama, São Pedro da Aldeia, Armação dos Búzios, and in the capital, in the neighborhoods of Recreio dos Bandeirantes and Barra da Tijuca.

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In other news here's a new image of the upcoming Black Lotus Coalition Belt Fed
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A-545
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M-Lok AK-12 hand guard by ukr company Kruk
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Modernized SR-3M
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Val "Shadow"
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PKZ-T Infantry conversion kit
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Little hard to see, but PKZ'd PKP
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You ever see a handmade short stroke piston AK conversion for IPSC rifle shooting
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VPO-177
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VSSK with Novorossiyan separatists
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Ukr ADS equivalent
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FGC-9 seized in Brazil
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Grizzly .50's (the gun from Tremors 3) are apparently still in production

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The Dude said:
I guess I'll add my belated 3/08 contribution: my LMT MWS308 and my LRB M-14S/Mk14 Mod0 build. If you like the M-14 LRB is the way to go. They're one of the few M-14 makers out there building them to original USGI spec with properly forged bolts, op rods, and receivers. Most, like Springfield, use castings that are machined much thicker than forged parts are. The trigger group on mine is a match set of Harrington and Richardson parts and is a nice trigger.

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i thought of you a couple weeks ago when a wise fella and his kid were in the lane next to me with with egregiously sick shit like a suppressed farted vector and a garand. the first ping i heard had me cackling. keep living the dream big dawg
 
JimJams1998 said:
Every boomer I met who loved it had the 14 during basic and then got an m16 during nam and hated it because of all the vietnam related issues. I guess I could see liking the m14 if you went from enblocks to magazines for combat, but all the old people at the vfw who I met never used the thing in combat.
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As far as I can tell his group of draftees were the last to use the M1, and his was completely clapped out. He did eventually get a M16 towards the end of his time in the army but never actually got to use it for anything but mag dumping into the ground when they were decommissioning what ever base he was at and they were ordered to expend all the ammo they couldn't take with them.

He doesn't have anything bad to say about any of the guns he actually had over in Vietnam. He doesn't talk about the war much other than anecdotes about the guns since I'm so into shooting. I can tell he didn't have a good time over there.

My favorite story he has told me is about one time they were extracted out of a hot hot LZ. The door gunner he was next to in the helicopter dumped belt after belt through his M60 until the gun's barrel turned red and the action seized. Somehow got through Vietnam without a scratch, though agent orange did give him cancer and a 100% VA disability rating and a hefty settlement and pension.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
As far as I can tell his group of draftees were the last to use the M1, and his was completely clapped out. He did eventually get a M16 towards the end of his time in the army but never actually got to use it for anything but mag dumping into the ground when they were decommissioning what ever base he was at and they were ordered to expend all the ammo they couldn't take with them.

He doesn't have anything bad to say about any of the guns he actually had over in Vietnam. He doesn't talk about the war much other than anecdotes about the guns since I'm so into shooting. I can tell he didn't have a good time over there.

My favorite story he has told me is about one time they were extracted out of a hot hot LZ. The door gunner he was next to in the helicopter dumped belt after belt through his M60 until the gun's barrel turned red and the action seized. Somehow got through Vietnam without a scratch, though agent orange did give him cancer and a 100% VA disability rating and a hefty settlement and pension.
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My old man was in Vietnam with the Navy as part of the Riverine Forces on a PBR (the boat in Apocalypse Now). When he went through basic they were still using the M14 for marksmanship, at least for the USN, but they had begun issuing the M16 to all branches in Vietnam. This was also when the USN sent any Navy personnel who would be serving in a combat zone to SERE School (Survival, Escape, Resistance, Evasion). Not long after they would only send USN Personnel in roles with a higher chance of becoming POWs to SERE, such as SEALs and Naval Aviators.

Part of SERE is a weapons familiarization course where you're trained to operate all weapons an escaping POW might come across: pistols, SMGs, rifles, machine guns, grenade launchers, RPGs, etc. Not just our own, but ARVN (mostly US WWII surplus like Garands, M1 Thompsons, BARs, etc.), and North Vietnamese/Viet Cong weapons (mostly Soviet made or Chinese made Soviet designs). There was a smattering of French and German stuff as well. Basically anything you'd potentially come across as you're fleeing the enemy and trying to get back to friendly forces. Out of it all, my dad always favored the M14 and M1918A2 BAR.

When dad finished up basic, engineman/engineer school, and SERE, he shipped off to Vietnam. He was put on a PBR boat crew as the engineman, but would be on one of the M60s on one of the rear pintle mounts when on patrol. They all had M16s to fall back on it necessary or if they had to operate on land away from the PBR. Dad didn't really like the 16 because of all the negative things he had heard. The skipper came from a military family and his dad had been an Army Ranger in WWII, who carried a Thompson and spoke glowingly of it. So dad's skipper had arranged a trade with an ARVN NCO who had a Thompson. Skipper got the Thompson, all the mags for it, several crates of ammo, and in return the ARVN NCO got two cases of Budweiser, an M16, a full load-out of magazines, and a couple crates of 5.56mm.

Dad decided to try to work something similar out for either an M14 or BAR. He first found a couple of Marines who still had M14s, but they flatly refused the trade. A while later dad found an ARVN private who was all of 5'1" and 100lbs soaking wet who was issued a BAR. They worked things out and agreed to do the actual trade the next morning. When dad went to look for the private in the barracks he was stationed at the next morning, the private's buddies informed dad that the private and his unit had been suddenly shipped out the night before, just hours after working out the trade with my dad.

Thankfully dad's crew were very religious and disciplined about keeping their weapons clean and lubricated, so they never had any issues with the 60s and never had to fall back on the 16s in a firefight. Dad's skipper absolutely loved his Thompson and found any excuse to shoot it. He had gotten quite skilled at propping the Thompson up on the windscreen of the wheelhouse with his right hand to fire it while steering the PBR with his left hand.
 
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