Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Rainbow Idiot]

Had a relatives house burn down and some of their guns were in a safe that mostly shielded them and others were under the bed in carrying cases, went looking online for directions and found www.turnbullrestoration.com which says to dunk the gun in a water, tide detergent, and baking soda solution prior to wiping them down and oiling everything. Has anyone tried this and does it work? Also one of the guns was in a plastic carrying case which appears to have melted onto the gun a bit. Haven't had a chance to really examine the damage yet as it's been a busy day.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Haven't had a chance to really examine the damage yet as it's been a busy day.

Direct contact with fire is typically beyond saving, otherwise it's a case-by-case basis depending heavily on the working bits. Temper and deformation/cracking are the focal points.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I could see this happening for artillery or similarly sized projectiles but I suspect powder is what'll drive small arms until well after we're all dead.

I believe one of the experimental guns for the Abrams back in the 80s used liquid instead of powder for the propellant. Might have been the 90s.

We should also mention that Tank and Artillery ammunition is essentially caseless already. 120x570mm NATO tank ammunition is constructed kinda like a shotgun shell. a metal base with a combustible cartridge case that is burned away upon firing. only the small metal base is left to be ejected. this invention reduced cartridge weight quite a lot.

for the most part in artillery the projectile is loaded first, followed by a powder charge in a combustible bag. the only thing that has changed in the last 200 years of artillery is powder composition, which end of the gun you load from and targeting. a gun crew from the 1800s would catch on very quickly to a modern howitzer.

 

[The Dude]

We should also mention that Tank and Artillery ammunition is essentially caseless already. 120x570mm NATO tank ammunition is constructed kinda like a shotgun shell. a metal base with a combustible cartridge case that is burned away upon firing. only the small metal base is left to be ejected. this invention reduced cartridge weight quite a lot.

for the most part in artillery the projectile is loaded first, followed by a powder charge in a combustible bag. the only thing that has changed in the last 200 years of artillery is powder composition, which end of the gun you load from and targeting. a gun crew from the 1800s would catch on very quickly to a modern howitzer.

Yup. Naval guns, such as the 16" guns on the Iowa Class, are pretty nuts. The shells alone weigh something like 2600lbs. Basically like launching an old VW Bug as a projectile. They require a cradle to shift them from vertical to horizontal to align with the breech, then a hydraulic ram pushes it into the bore. Then several bags of powder are placed onto the cradle and rammed into place behind the shell, up to six bags IIRC depending on the velocity/range required. I've been on two of the Iowas: the Iowa herself and the Missouri, on tours. Being in those loading rooms, seeing all the machinery and equipment to move the shells and powder up from their magazines, it's absolutely nuts. I hope to one day tour the New Jersey since my dad actually saw her in action in the Gulf of Tonkin when he was in Vietnam as a part of the USN Riverine Force. When he first got in country he had to hop a Huey to a carrier to receive his papers and posting. While he was on the flight deck the Jersey got a fire mission and he got to see those big guns fire in anger. He said even several miles away from the carrier, you could still feel those fuckers fire in your ears and your guts. All nine guns spitting fire and pure hate. He said it was like seeing the gates of Hell ripped wide open right in front of you.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Yup.

And fun fact, A lot of modern artillery still use some black powder in the charge. the modern propellants are very hard to ignite (so as to make cook offs less likely) so black powder is used as a kicker charge. It's why, despite blowing up several times in the last several years, the GOEX black powder factory is always rebuilt. The DOW still needs the holy black.

(GOEX is shitty rifle and pistol powder. too low grade. good enough for artillery and such like. For good rifle powder you want BP made with alder-buckthorn, such as Swiss BP. much better performance, and what was used historically)

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

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[Krusty762]

I finally got some tax stamps approved, MCX and AKB23 micro


The AKB23 is absurdly tiny, it has a 10.5 inch barrel too. Here is a size comparison with a krink


I hope you are all doing well :^) until next time kiwicrew!

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

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Can anyone explain whats going on with these optics? Is there a perspective thing where one is offset? Magnifier on a flip-mount that just looks misaligned? I don't understand how what I'm looking at.



Judging by all the pics I wouldn't be surprised if Unity was a sponsor of the event.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Can anyone explain what going on with these optics? Is there a perspective thing where one is offset? I'm having trouble understanding what I'm looking at.

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Magnifier on a folding mount set behind a red dot.

 

[Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa]

Can anyone explain what going on with these optics? Is there a perspective thing where one is offset? I'm having trouble understanding what I'm looking at.

Looks like one of these. The magnifier moves up and down instead of to the side.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

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Looks like one of these. The magnifier moves up and down instead of to the side.

Yes that's it. The angle didn't look like anything lined up at all to me.

 

[pro drivor]

are mosins really as dogshit as people say they are? and are they worth the 300-450$ i see them going for online?

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

are mosins really as dogshit as people say they are? and are they worth the 300-450$ i see them going for online?

not really and not really

 

[big pauper]

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are mosins really as dogshit as people say they are? and are they worth the 300-450$ i see them going for online?

mosins were the right hand of the iron curtain, they made so fucking many of them that there was enough surplus in america from both getting imported from third world warzones and domestic manufacture helping out those third world warzones that they permanently made a mark on the global firearms industry

but brass tacks bro it's a 19th century bolt action fighting gun, it's not a hunting rifle, it was designed for an entirely different purpose than what most people buy bolt action guns for these days. the only way you can put an optic on it is to take off the rear sight. as much as i like scout scopes this isn't exactly a prime use case for them it's kind of just the only way you get get the gun to work with an optic

 

[Bogliacci]

I finally got some tax stamps approved, MCX and AKB23 micro
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The AKB23 is absurdly tiny, it has a 10.5 inch barrel too. Here is a size comparison with a krink
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I hope you are all doing well :^) until next time kiwicrew!

i really fuck with that akb23 whatchamakallit

 

[Romulus augustulus]

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are mosins really as dogshit as people say they are? and are they worth the 300-450$ i see them going for online?

they are fine. what problems they have are because a lot of them are old and worn out with tired bores from corrosive ammo that were poorly cleaned.

Mauser is better, which is why nearly every other bolt action were Mausers or licensed copies.

 

[Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa]

are mosins really as dogshit as people say they are? and are they worth the 300-450$ i see them going for online?

They are what they are - surplus military rifles designed before WWI. If you want one for the history that's totally legitimate, but for $450 you could easily find a much better modern rifle in a modern caliber with modern features. Or an SKS, which also isn't very modern but is way more fun to shoot in my opinion.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

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are mosins really as dogshit as people say they are? and are they worth the 300-450$ i see them going for online?

Gonna echo the quieter assessments in that it's an expensive design that was poorly maintained over the years. Value is your own decision since it's very unlikely we'll be getting any more from Russia itself, but they vary in performance/actual worth on a scale from the pictured refurbished 91/30 to Finnish captures. Since they're all rising to the price of Finnish Mosins it's difficult to recommend a standard WW2 91/30.

 

[Krusty762]

i really fuck with that akb23 whatchamakallit

I just call it micro or commando

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are mosins really as dogshit as people say they are? and are they worth the 300-450$ i see them going for online?

Id much rather get a straight pull Swiss K31 for a few hundred dollars more. Mosins are neat but they will always be sub 100 dollar garbage rods.

 

[DocAwe]

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are mosins really as dogshit as people say they are? and are they worth the 300-450$ i see them going for online?

I used to have one.
When they were $100 and the ammo was pennies they were great.
Now you have much better options for the same money.