Mega Rad Gun Thread

[xf7ub2LMGZj%yV]

.300 is a 6 year old meme round.

300 is a very interesting round that was revolutionary for the time but now has competition that preforms better

The Creation story is interesting the wiki lays part of it out.

What subsonically can we do in a package the same size as the MP5SD?

Q (AAC at the time) Created the honey badger in collaboration with Special forces.

It used the 300AAC which is 16 years old not 6.

Real talk if 300 spent a little more time in the oven it would have come out closer to the 338 arc, but it was also made to meet a contract, So getting the cartridge out even if it wasn't perfect was probably the priority.

I think people SHOULD move to something like 338 just because it's much better performance wise. but it's definitely not a meme round.

 

[74164978231]

I wonder how many engagements there have been where someone swapped from subsonic to supersonic rounds.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I wonder how many engagements there have been where someone swapped from subsonic to supersonic rounds.

in the same rifle? approximately zero if i had to guess.

There was some squirrelly silenced pistols in vietnam for tunnel rat stuff and LRRPing.

 

[Blasterisk]

I wonder how many engagements there have been where someone swapped from subsonic to supersonic rounds.

I pour all my supers and subs into a big pile before I load my magazines. It keeps us all guessing so that the firefight doesn't get boring.

 

[Rainbow Idiot]

I wonder how many engagements there have been where someone swapped from subsonic to supersonic rounds.

There was enough concern about such that 3? maybe? manufacturers developed red dots with 2 separate dots that are capable of independent zeros. I don't remember what the end result of all the fuss was but the price point was high enough that it looked like a mil contract.

 

[(((Obar Lazcano Kamz)))]

I like flow through suppressors because less gas. I honestly dont think a suppressor matters beyond reducing the sound a marginal bit. If it cant be dead quiet it might as well do something else as an added offset.

 

[Blasterisk]

If it cant be dead quiet it might as well do something else as an added offset.

"not concussing you" is nice

 

[74164978231]

There was enough concern about such that 3? maybe? manufacturers developed red dots with 2 separate dots that are capable of independent zeros. I don't remember what the end result of all the fuss was but the price point was high enough that it looked like a mil contract.

Well that's what I'm getting at the entire point of the honey badger/300blk is to have a very quiet round that can transition to a more capable round effortlessly but I've never seen any evidence of that being a thing.

The entire thing always came off to me as another example of socom being able to piss money away on whatever they want like the scar at the drop of a hat then walk away from it after they grew tired of their shiny new toy.

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

Hypothetically, if the NFA stuff cools off and SBRs become legal, what would you guys recommend for a PCC SBR? Something I could throw in a backpack in the event of zombies or Canadians. I'm looking at either a Scorpion or a Kuna. Probably add a silencer in the future, but I want to figure out the gun first.

I’m going to be purchasing an AK-V from PSA in a few months based off their work in getting this shit through the courts alone.

Blah, blah, Poverty State Arms, whatever. Put a few hundred rounds through it, make sure it runs the defensive ammo you like, and save some money on a gun you’re not going to take to war in the first place with. Guntubers have ruined our society because they’ve made us all think we need $2,500 ARs built by Geissele to fire a single shot at a hypothetical nigger trying to steal our Kia at 2am.

 

[Boney]

Give the poorfags an inch and they will take a mile.

Guys if you are buying a gun for serious reasons you should buy a serious gun. Chrome lined AR-15 starts at about $1200 and if it shows up fucked up you've got every right to be mad.

If you are worried about overpaying for a rollmark stick to the established legacy companies like FN or Colt.

Also Glock. Duh.

 

[Gruntgar The Indentured]

Are Flux Raider Chassis Systems with a foregrip subject to any kind of background check now?

 

[xf7ub2LMGZj%yV]

Are Flux Raider Chassis Systems with a foregrip subject to any kind of background check now?

they never were

(also i have a raider, go with the 365 version. the 320 version is just worse in every way.)

 

[Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa]

Are Flux Raider Chassis Systems with a foregrip subject to any kind of background check now?

they never were

The front magazine holder thing on the Flux chassis isn't considered a VFG because of legalese, so there isn't any background check except for the FCU. If you were to add a VFG to the front rail, that would create an AOW subject to the NFA unless you'd already made an SBR with it.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Give the poorfags an inch and they will take a mile.

Guys if you are buying a gun for serious reasons you should buy a serious gun. Chrome lined AR-15 starts at about $1200 and if it shows up fucked up you've got every right to be mad.

If you are worried about overpaying for a rollmark stick to the established legacy companies like FN or Colt.

Also Glock. Duh.

You can get a chrome lined US GI spec (apart from the gas system GO MID LENGTH ALREADY UNCLE SAM) from KAK or Centurion for under $1000 (KAK is the whole rifle, Centurion will be a great upper)

https://centurionarms.com/cm4-complete-upper/

Or JUST over $1k for a complete Centurion rifle (minus BCG)

https://centurionarms.com/recce-upper/

That simple. Oh and if you can handle an Israeli roll mark, the IWI Zion-15 (made in Pennsylvania)

 

[ifunny pride world wide]

I wonder how many engagements there have been where someone swapped from subsonic to supersonic rounds.

The best use case for it is initiating an ambush under very specific conditions. The attackers will move to the ambush point with a single mag of subs in their rifles. Once the subsonic magazine has been expended whacking the enemy's point man/sentry/crew served weapons the attacker will switch to super sonics for the rest of the fight/exfiltration. The idea is to keep your position/size hidden for as long as possible. The logic goes against general ambush tactics though. Usually an attack is initiated by an explosive and/or overwhelming fire. You need to kill as many people as possible before the enemy responds and your best opportunity is the first couple of seconds. Subs are effective at reducing sound but its not like the enemy won't know they're being attacked. You're basically kneecapping yourself by limiting your opening move to a few guys using a weapon with diminished terminal performance. The idea only works if you can kill everyone using subs. Otherwise you'll have to use your supersonic weapons which results in the questions: "why am I using subs if the loud ass RPK gunner is going to do all the work anyways?" and "why is my squad carrying machine guns and grenade launchers if we can accomplish the mission only using subs?"

The Soviets experimented with a subsonic 7.62x39 round in Afghanistan. Most of the guys would carry the new 5.45 AK-74 but you'd have a specialist or two with an older AKM using subs and a suppressor with baffle wipes. If my memory serves me right, the subsonic AKM was for dispatching lone sentries enroute to the main objective. Again, the usefulness is kind of dubious though. Is the enemy going to patrol far away enough that his main base won't hear them being killed?

Apologies for not thumbnailing the pictures. The button won't work for some reason

 

[Boney]

You can get a chrome lined US GI spec (apart from the gas system GO MID LENGTH ALREADY UNCLE SAM) from KAK or Centurion for under $1000 (KAK is the whole rifle, Centurion will be a great upper)

Anderson lower + KAC upper will always be peak for me. You bring up a great point though about being thrifty.

Centurion is my personal favorite AR brand.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

Are revolvers only for larpers or do you guys think they can be viable for self defense? I saw some boomer open carrying and I just don’t think 6 shots are enough compared to the glocks 15-17 rounds

Revolvers are obsolete. Like Paul Harrell always said obsolete doesn't mean ineffective, but they are obsolete. There are arguable niche scenarios where they might have an edge over a similarly sized automatic, but those are still tainted by personal preference dressed up as specious factual arguments. People will often repeat statistics about how many rounds a typical defensive engagement involves and stuff like that, but those are just stats. Carrying a gun is already something you do because you think you might wind up a part of a minority of people who are victims of a crime, so why not assume you'll be one of the minority of crime victims who would be better off with 10 rounds instead of 5 for example.

Bottom line, mid sized revolvers make no sense as a defensive gun because a mid sized auto is superior in every single way, if you carry one don't try to argue anything but subjective preference. Snub nose has its place but a micro 9 that carries 10+ rounds is as small as or smaller than a 5 shot .38spl snub nose revolver and will also have superior ballistics and sight radius, so you're relying on stuff like "I pocket carry it in my jacket pocket/purse" as plausible scenarios for it. Innawoods "bear gun" or hunting is about the only place where a revolver still makes some practical sense and that's only because large cartridge autos are niche (.460 Rowland converted for example) and sometimes unreliable (i.e. Deagle), you're still probably better off with a .460 G21 than a 629 though. People get so hung up in defending their subjective tastes that they make fools of themselves trying to justify it with bogus arguments, if you're a revolver guy who does this get some backbone and say that you do it for 2nd kind of cool reasons then be done with it.

Manufacture. your. own. ammuntion.

Rarely worth the entry cost unless you go through huge quantities of ammo or do precision shooting since components are so expensive and there is a significant time and space investment involved. Judging by the drop in availability of reloading supplies I've seen at gun stores, the rise in cost killed interest in it and we're in that space where pretty much everyone who wants to do it already does. Most people would rather pay a little more per round (and still probably spend less in the long run because they don't buy thousands of dollars of press, powder measure, dies, checking tools), and use the time they would spend making their own ammo doing something else.

 

[ifunny pride world wide]

I’m going to be purchasing an AK-V from PSA in a few months based off their work in getting this shit through the courts alone.

Don't get one with the "enhanced trigger" because they have habit of burst firing if the FCG is too light. Burst firing sounds cool until you remember its straight blowback and OOB detonation risk is fairly high. It was an issue I had in one of my builds where I used an AKV bolt but online forums are full of PSA customers noting the issue on proper AKV pistols too.

The AKV is really cool because PSA sells the standalone bolts and barrels unlike any of the other 9mm AKs on the market. That's how I rebuilt my aforementioned Romanian NAK-9.
I bought a gunsmith special NAK-9 for like $100 that was missing every removable part. The NAK-9 is single feed because it uses Glock mags so I had to grind the double feed, double stack AKV bolt so it would pass through the narrower Glock feed lips. Fortunately I was able to grind away quite a bit while still keeping the reciprocating mass safe enough.



After that I was able to fill in the rest of the parts with spare AKM bits. I did have to fabricate the dust cover hinge and some of the springs from scratch though.
Made it out of sheet metal. Drilled and tapped for 10/22 rail that I had. The NAK-9 uses a bolt on ejector so I had to fabricate that out of spring steel too.





Final product after re-Parkerizing.

 

[Mister Fister]

Bottom line, mid sized revolvers make no sense as a defensive gun because a mid sized auto is superior in every single way, if you carry one don't try to argue anything but subjective preference. Snub nose has its place but a micro 9 that carries 10+ rounds is as small as or smaller than a 5 shot .38spl snub nose revolver and will also have superior ballistics and sight radius, so you're relying on stuff like "I pocket carry it in my jacket pocket/purse" as plausible scenarios for it. Innawoods "bear gun" or hunting is about the only place where a revolver still makes some practical sense and that's only because large cartridge autos are niche (.460 Rowland converted for example) and sometimes unreliable (i.e. Deagle), you're still probably better off with a .460 G21 than a 629 though. People get so hung up in defending their subjective tastes that they make fools of themselves trying to justify it with bogus arguments, if you're a revolver guy who does this get some backbone and say that you do it for 2nd kind of cool reasons then be done with it.

Big revolver hand cannons are cool though.

 

[Mister Fister]