Men's Rights Activists

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Your whole post hinges on this point.

In what ways do men and women have different natures? How can this be quantified?

Good question.

I don't profess to have all the answers or have everything figured.My only motive is truth and understanding.If I discover that my views are wrong and a higher better understanding exists then I will drop them.

Obviously I am not going to respond in detail out of respect for this thread but to just give you a very brief and short answer:

Despite what people believe and are free to do so alot of my thoughts regarding women come from years of personal experience with them.That personal experience awakened me to alot of things that I would have never thought or understood without it.And that personal experience certainly showed me that the whole concept of "women/men are equal and that's how it should be" was certainly not the whole story.

The full understanding of it is something that is still in question but I know in my gut and from my own life that something is not right and that there is far more to the story.I intend to go down the rabbit hole to best of my abilities and see what I will find.There is still tremendous work to be done.

I was serious when I said your hyperbole is better suited to the loveshy sub, this sub was intended as a place where kiwis could discuss issues between friends without the extreme views of cows making normal discussion impossible.
I'm no SJW and you can read what I think of feminist theory of maleness further up the thread but I am considering sending you back to that subforum as the argument you are advancing seems to match with the ones there and is therefore imo better suited to that sub.

Well I will leave it at that then.
 
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A reddit mens-lib guys re.tardedness displayed in all its glory. And this has to be the hundredth time I've read about the ''Turkey baster'' urban legend. These guys believe it though.
 
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A reddit mens-lib guys re.tardedness displayed in all its glory. And this has to be the hundredth time I've read about the ''Turkey baster'' urban legend. These guys believe it though.
So you necro'd this thread to put up a screencap of a Reddit post I know I saw floating around a while ago.

Very cool.
 
They're whiny pussies who took the exact wrong conclusion from male-female double standards: They want to be treated with the same kid gloves women are. The feminists are more man than them in a way, since they take the initiative to subvert institutions instead of just complaining about them. If men historically had the temperament of MRAs, we'd still be hunter gatherers.
 
They're whiny pussies who took the exact wrong conclusion from male-female double standards: They want to be treated with the same kid gloves women are. The feminists are more man than them in a way, since they take the initiative to subvert institutions instead of just complaining about them. If men historically had the temperament of MRAs, we'd still be hunter gatherers.
Yeah. You should hold yourself to as high standards as you can, and try and reach them. Not sit in the corner crying about the mean girls.

Sure the systems kinda fucked against men; but the simple solution is not to for insane harpy women, and try and find someone loving and normal to build a life with.

Protip: If all the women you are in relationships with are cunts, the problem might not be the women.
 
Yeah. You should hold yourself to as high standards as you can, and try and reach them. Not sit in the corner crying about the mean girls.

Sure the systems kinda fucked against men; but the simple solution is not to for insane harpy women, and try and find someone loving and normal to build a life with.

Protip: If all the women you are in relationships with are cunts, the problem might not be the women.
The way it used to work was: Men were held to higher standards than women because they had the responsibility to lead women and society. Women were held to their own set of standards, which were also strict, but with a narrower range of responsibilities subordinate to male leadership. Women had fewer responsibilities (though important ones) but fewer rights in turn.

The MRA fantasy is to have greater rights without taking greater responsibilities, which is how feminists/women at their worst think.
 
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They're whiny pussies who took the exact wrong conclusion from male-female double standards: They want to be treated with the same kid gloves women are. The feminists are more man than them in a way, since they take the initiative to subvert institutions instead of just complaining about them. If men historically had the temperament of MRAs, we'd still be hunter gatherers.
Like most feminists, men’s rights activists care disproportionately about issue that affect the well to do.

Also, you can have a traditional marriage if you can offer what traditional girls want: a stable job, being religious (and not pretending to be to get girls), and being a virgin or at least having a low partner count.
 
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Until men start bombing and killing in the name of men's rights, they aren't getting anywhere.

"overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and eliminate the male sex."
- Ultimate goal of feminism

The person who wrote that tried to murder Andy Warhol.
 
Until men start bombing and killing in the name of men's rights, they aren't getting anywhere.

"overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and eliminate the male sex."
- Ultimate goal of feminism

The person who wrote that tried to murder Andy Warhol.

And the thing is most men seem to be doing just fine with women. Mens lib, MGTOW and incels are not representative of the average male thinker. These guys are combination of angry spergs, mentally ill and disgruntled baby daddies. The have always been around (even back to the guy who attempted to kill Andy Warhol). But now they have their social media platforms to get together and bask in their own stupid juices.
 
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And the thing is most men seem to be doing just fine with women. Mens lib, MGTOW and incels are not representative of the average male thinker. These guys are combination of angry spergs, mentally ill and disgruntled baby daddies. The have always been around (even back to the guy who attempted to kill Andy Warhol). But now they have their social media platforms to get together and bask in their own stupid juices.
A guy, huh? That guy was a woman, who spent only three years in jail. She also injured another bystander and attempted murder against another, but her gun jammed.

When the social, economic and political system unilaterally favours women, obviously men are going to take a backseat.
 
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And the thing is most men seem to be doing just fine with women. Mens lib, MGTOW and incels are not representative of the average male thinker. These guys are combination of angry spergs, mentally ill and disgruntled baby daddies. The have always been around (even back to the guy who attempted to kill Andy Warhol). But now they have their social media platforms to get together and bask in their own stupid juices.
"guy"

I don't think Valerie would appreciate that label
 
I am an Asian gay man who used to be a liberal feminist. I have two questions regarding transgender issues for y'all, folks. Does the masculinist movement include MtF transwomen in its ideology, since they are still biological dudes? I believe that we should include them, whereas TERFs have always included FtM transmen (who are biological females) from their radical ideology against transwomen.

I do not want to see a trans-identified female exposing her genitalia in boys' and men's private spaces, as it is obviously embarrassing. I, obviously, don't like vaginas. 🤢

Additionally, does the masculinist movement include incels and gay boys? Similar to man-hating lesbians in radical feminism, many of them really hate the patriarchy among males. I am seriously considering embracing the masculinist movement due to some man-hating feminists thinking "men are useless." This is why I would support transwomen competing with biological women. I am not even fatherless, lol.

(correct me if my graham sucks)
 
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