Messaging app that's anonymous

First off: do you trust your phone? If you don't then this is kinda pointless.
There are two major protocols that you can use for instant messaging: XMPP and Matrix. You can find clients for these (like how you have an email client). Both of these require accounts on a server, and you can host that yourself if you want. The Kiwi Farms has a matrix server, I don't even think you need an email to sign up, but it probably has a habit of going down because of DDOS attacks.
 
lemmiwinks said:
AFAIK Keybase is solid, they have apps for every platform (linux, mac, windows android, webapp). They have recently been sold, so that could change in the near future.
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Got sold specifically to Zoom, which censors human rights activists outside of China for the Chinese government and recently had to settle a lawsuit "for lying about encryption and sending data to Facebook and Google".


If I were using Keybase, I'd watch them like a hawk to make sure Zoom isn't a negative influence on them.
 
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Stoneheart said:
Signal is good enough for sweden...
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signal also requires your phone number, last I needed to Anonymous1337xLeetH4x0r i used wickr, but thats sold to amazon now so its a nogo. the best solution has been posted use PGP. here are two suggestions. Get a forum account like kiwifarms and send DMs to eatchother, and only communicate with PGP.
Another suggestion is to get a random email account, give the usename and password to both parties, and only communicate in a single draft using PGP (using tor to login). I personally think this would be the best, because it would be a nightmare to track and find, and I dont think draft revisions are stored. but assume it is.

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Look into a FreedomBox from FreedomBox.org if you want a more complete solution.
 
lemmiwinks said:
You're welcome. It's used widely within security research and until fairly recently the bulk of the 3D printed firearms community used it as well. I'm not sure what made them move but it seems they closed their channel. Might be worth looking into if you are that concerned.
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Keybase came down on them hard. I wouldn't use it if you want something really secure.
 
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Matrix supports end to end encryption and you don't even need an email to make an account on some home servers.
Signal would make the contents of your messages unknown, but it'd be obviously known that you use Signal.
You can do setups with XMPP and PGP which could potentially be ideal, but it depends on what you're trying to hide from.

I recommend just using a VPN and Matrix as the path of least resistance.
You can anonymously acquire phone numbers and then tie them to a voip service but the methods vary by country and it's probably not necessary for what you're trying to do. That would, however, allow you to use a lot of services with a number not easily tied to you if you did it right.
 
If you want CIAnigger-tier encryption and anonymity, stick with "dark-web" based chat clients:

  • Session. (Lokinet)
  • Briar. (Tor, and local Bluetooth)
  • Ricochet. (Tor)
  • Irc2P (Not as secure as any of the others, but is built into the default I2P software, you just run I2P and then point your IRC client at 127.0.0.1 : 6668
  • Retroshare over I2P in hidden mode. (quite a bit of configuration required to make this one work; this is good because it keeps the normies and niggercattle out)
 
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