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On a different subject, what would you be doing in the Metal Gear universe?

I would be support staff on Shadow Moses but within a couple days of the takeover Psycho Mantis would nonchalantly give me a fatal arrhythmia for having an annoying internal monologue.
 
On a different subject, what would you be doing in the Metal Gear universe?

I would be support staff on Shadow Moses but within a couple days of the takeover Psycho Mantis would nonchalantly give me a fatal arrhythmia for having an annoying internal monologue.
I'd be on comms with Snake/whoever as some sort of weird historical encyclopedia about the current situation dispensing equal parts vital facts and terrible jokes and unnecessary references, like an even more annoying and potentially even more useless Otacon, and either despised by the fans, possessed of a bizarre cult following, or both.
 
You can always tell who started this series with MGS 4, Peacewalker or MGS V

Anyways I'd probably be doing the exact shit I'm doing now. Shitposting on the internet cause I can't afford cyborg parts.
 
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I'd be the guard near the helipad who gets his ass beat out of boredom every time Big Boss returns to Mother Base.
 
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I'd be at home totally oblivious to the events taking place. Some years later I'm watching TV in the cafeteria at work and see reports of something huge crashing into Manhattan.
 
On a different subject, what would you be doing in the Metal Gear universe?

I would be support staff on Shadow Moses but within a couple days of the takeover Psycho Mantis would nonchalantly give me a fatal arrhythmia for having an annoying internal monologue.
I'd probably be your security detail, then I'd freak out seeing what happened to you and would say something cliche like, "H-hey, what's going on?", and I'd subsequently get killed by a genome soldier on cleanup duty before the main Foxhound members even got there. Feels bad man.
 
dispensing equal parts vital facts and terrible jokes and unnecessary references, like an even more annoying and potentially even more useless Otacon
If the earlier MGS games were made in the modern day, there would be some codec calls where Otacon would be trying to verbally describe a meme image.

Like his misinterpreting proverbs while Snake says "huh, you sure?", except he's describing two women pointing across a table at a cat.
 
On a different subject, what would you be doing in the Metal Gear universe?
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For me it seems like post MGS 4 players seem to really *really* think MGS V is some lynchpin to the rest of the series for some reason.

There also tends to be a bigger reverence for The Boss and Skull Face.

I've also noticed people who started with MGS 4 and onward drank the Kojima is God koolaid waaaay more. But I think that just might be a redditfag thing
 
For me it seems like post MGS 4 players seem to really *really* think MGS V is some lynchpin to the rest of the series for some reason.

There also tends to be a bigger reverence for The Boss and Skull Face.

I've also noticed people who started with MGS 4 and onward drank the Kojima is God koolaid waaaay more. But I think that just might be a redditfag thing
I've played them all when they came out (except for Ghost Babel) the new games have tons of problems but it isn't like the OG's didn't have them too.

I think alot of it is.. people want MGSV to be great because its the last one we are ever going to get.
 
For me it seems like post MGS 4 players seem to really *really* think MGS V is some lynchpin to the rest of the series for some reason.

There also tends to be a bigger reverence for The Boss and Skull Face.

I've also noticed people who started with MGS 4 and onward drank the Kojima is God koolaid waaaay more. But I think that just might be a redditfag thing
I've always equated MGS3 being the RE4 of the series. Only for the fact Big Boss kinda ruins the series going forward.
 
I've also noticed people who started with MGS 4 and onward drank the Kojima is God koolaid waaaay more. But I think that just might be a redditfag thing
Whereas I notice people who started with the earlier ones tend to be prone to 'Tomokazu Fukushima is the REAL architect of MGS' type cope.

I think alot of it is.. people want MGSV to be great because its the last one we are ever going to get.
I liked it at the time. It's a good game. It's just, the story is just....

And, based on UPS Simulator and UPS Simulator 2, I think it probably is for the best that we're not going to get another MGS.

Like I said, MGS4 was the perfect ending. I really like stories about the old hero coming out of retirement to do one last job.
 
Tomokazu Fukushima is the REAL architect of MGS' type cope.
Is it really cope when there's a clear shift when he leaves?

The bulk of the plot in the trilogy is in the codecs, he wrote those. And then from MGS4 it's mostly in cutscenes and they're written terribly. No witty dialogue, and no gravitas.

People being nostalgic for TPP characters and scenes to me is a dead giveaway they're retarded.
 
I've always equated MGS3 being the RE4 of the series. Only for the fact Big Boss kinda ruins the series going forward.
I think it's more that Kojima abandoned everything that was good about MGS3. What was cool about MGS3 was that everything in it was period accurate, for the most part, and, with the exception of Ocelot, it didn't lean on previously established supporting cast, it didn't fall into the prequel 'trap' of over-explaining everything that's identifiable with the series.

Then he does Peace Walker and you've got Miller and you've got Otacon Sr and you've got Outer Heaven before Big Boss would have even founded Outer Heaven, and you've got technology that wouldn't have existed in 1974 but it totally exists in Peace Walker because Big Boss' ragtag band of super mercenaries developed it. Then you get into MGSV and you've got Baby Liquid and Baby Psycho Mantis and you've got fucking Metal Gear REX but it looks more technologically advanced than the 20 years younger Metal Gear REX. And you know, Kojima just abandoned fidelity to the setting and fell into the prequel trap, except that he had to change the characters and the setting to make it all fit
Is it really cope when there's a clear shift when he leaves?

The bulk of the plot in the trilogy is in the codecs, he wrote those. And then from MGS4 it's mostly in cutscenes and they're written terribly. No witty dialogue, and no gravitas.
It is cope. There's numerous articles and interviews that detail exactly what Fukushima did and, moreover, point out that he wasn't even brought in until late in the process on both MGS1 and MGS2. Kojima created the characters, the themes and the settings before Fukushima was even brought on.

Also, he worked on MGS4 (he's credited in the TGS trailer but not in the final game).

Also also, the rebuttal to 'Fukushima is the secret architect of MGS' is Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. Play that game and you'll realise that MGS is basically a soft remake. A lot of the gameplay elements, a lot of the plot points, a lot of the characters (or at least, the character types), they're already there in MG2. And Kojima wrote it.

What the 'Tomokazu Fukushima is the secret architect of Metal Gear' theory is, and you see this a lot from people like Razorfisting, it's become fashionable to hate on Kojima (to be fair he has become immensely pretentious and he's waay too in love with Hollywood) but people like Razorfisting have cognitive dissonance because MGS1, 2 & 3 were objectively good games. So the way they rationalise enjoying them even though they don't really like Kojima is 'Kojima didn't really create them. Some other, unsung, Konami employee did'
 
Whereas I notice people who started with the earlier ones tend to be prone to 'Tomokazu Fukushima is the REAL architect of MGS' type cope.
Nah. I think his codecs did add a lot of flavor and world building to the games. Too bad most of it is forgotten or retconned at this point. I'd honestly say if anyone should get some sort of praise for the earlier MGS games, it'd be Shinkawa since I heard his art influenced Kojima a lot during the making of MGS1.

These days I'm of the opinion that Kojima simply was cribbing off 60's, 80's and 90's (western) films a lot more which lead to the games feeling more entertaining and less pretentious. (I'd even argue MGS2's ending doesn't come anywhere close to what his later games would be like)
 
Nah. I think his codecs did add a lot of flavor and world building to the games.
I'm not saying that his contributions were worthless. I loved the hilarious Snake/Otacon banter during Tanker chapter and he wrote all of that. I'm just saying that's pretty far from being the architect of MGS that people who hate Kojima want him to be.
I'd honestly say if anyone should get some sort of praise for the earlier MGS games, it'd be Shinkawa since I heard his art influenced Kojima a lot during the making of MGS1.
I love Shinkawa's art. I wish the series could look more like his concept drawings.
These days I'm of the opinion that Kojima simply was cribbing off 60's, 80's and 90's (western) films a lot more which lead to the games feeling more entertaining and less pretentious. (I'd even argue MGS2's ending doesn't come anywhere close to what his later games would be like)
MGS2 is very prescient. Even the idea of there being no such thing as objective reality, that's the philosophy that the modern left operate from when they say things like 'No person is illegal' and 'Transwomen are women'
 
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