Metroid general

[Lurkerish Kandor]

Were they being distributed as patches or as patched roms? Or did they have a website with a bunch of Nintendo logos and stuff?

It might not matter: I'm no japlaw expert, but I believe it's illegal in JP to mod saves, mod consoles, and to provide modding tools or software.

It could very well be that the last part in particular is manipulated to make it illegal by technicality to hack roms - you can have a rom (assuming you dumped it yourself) and you can have a patch, and you can have a patched rom, but the software that applies the patch could maybe be argued as the illegal part? It's a tactic I wouldn't put past Tendo considering their behaviour in the Palworld lawsuit.

 

[Grub]

It might not matter: I'm no japlaw expert, but I believe it's illegal in JP to mod saves, mod consoles, and to provide modding tools or software.

That's true and as far as I know Metaquarious is Japanese or at least lives in Japan. I'm pretty sure I remember that being mentioned some time on the metroid construction forums. Would make sense why the dude seems paranoid as fuck.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Bit of a swerve here, but I think I found the perfect example of the kind of autistic fan this series has that irritates me so much about the fanbase.

Yep, based on concrete facts and evidence, Samus being shown out of her armor is a parasite that needs to be destroyed, lest the series suffer from declining sales. Dread became the best selling because it got rid of any sort of sexualization. Other M's issues included showing Samus out of her armor, and it should be removed from all future games.

And judging by the amount of likes he gets on his posts along with the followers he has, it seems as though he is not alone.

 

[Newcomer 42]

He must be a sexless, loveless troon/SJW. Other M was terrible, and it's funny that feminists stay silent on that one, as Samus is constantly denigrated by a white male who shoots her in the back to "save her life" in a cringeworthy way. Samus acts like a battered spouse with no personality to boot. Not very feminine, I would say. There are also around 10 pages of script that cover all the games' writing and dialogues.
How many characters did Dread have? 3, counting Samus, two of which die.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I've been playing Zero Mission and Fusion again and I forgot how good the GBA to DS pipeline/transition was. Those were probably some of Nintendo's best gaming years.

Yeah, Nintendo was at their peak then. 2000-2005 gave us great N64, GBC, GBA, DS, and DS games.

And judging by the amount of likes he gets on his posts along with the followers he has, it seems as though he is not alone.

The Metroid fanbase is almost as bad as Fire Emblem's, full of weirdo libtards.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Other M was terrible

And it had a nigger in it. I swear the game was just a power trip from Sakamoto, going full george lucas because some American barbarians from Texas made the best selling Metroid game up until that point. Other M was so bad in fact that I've actually come to agree with Sakamoto, that "the Prime games aren't canon" - because I don't want Prime Samus to have any connection to that trainwreck. Not to Adam, not to the groid, not to "the Baby", and not to the Samus that cries and gives stupid ass thumbs downs...

Tell me Sakamoto wasn't just dumping on Prime with that retarded shit.

 

[Dildo_SHwaggins]

And it had a nigger in it. I swear the game was just a power trip from Sakamoto, going full george lucas because some American barbarians from Texas made the best selling Metroid game up until that point. Other M was so bad in fact that I've actually come to agree with Sakamoto, that "the Prime games aren't canon" - because I don't want Prime Samus to have any connection to that trainwreck. Not to Adam, not to the groid, not to "the Baby", and not to the Samus that cries and gives stupid ass thumbs downs...
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Tell me Sakamoto wasn't just dumping on Prime with that retarded shit.

Part of me thinks he was trying to make Metroid more palatable to the Japanese audience and assuming the western audience wouldn't care about the changes. It obviously backfired since he hasn't tried to do this again.

 

[LightDragonman1]

And it had a nigger in it. I swear the game was just a power trip from Sakamoto, going full george lucas because some American barbarians from Texas made the best selling Metroid game up until that point. Other M was so bad in fact that I've actually come to agree with Sakamoto, that "the Prime games aren't canon" - because I don't want Prime Samus to have any connection to that trainwreck. Not to Adam, not to the groid, not to "the Baby", and not to the Samus that cries and gives stupid ass thumbs downs...
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Tell me Sakamoto wasn't just dumping on Prime with that retarded shit.

This is a theory that I simply can’t get behind, given how Sakamoto has since made references and such to the Prime games in Dread and such, not to mention that he has never in any way said that he hates the Prime games, never said they weren’t canon, and in fact was a supervisor on them, with Bryan Walker of Retro saying he was extremely helpful during the development.

Just sounds like another way to slander the guy, and to big up the Prime series and act like Retro is the only devs allowed to work on it now. Almost makes me resent the Prime games at this point, if this is the sort of self-righteous mindset that it has placed into the people who worship them as being the greatest in the series (and Prime 1 is my favorite game in the franchise btw).

More than anything, he was just trying to go for a more cinematic approach, and things didn’t go too well, especially since he made the absolutely bone-headed decision to head up the translation himself, despite not speaking English that well. If there was anything that did dump on Prime, then that was unintentional, not malicious.

Course, that’s not to say that the original script is good, cause it frankly isn’t. But knowing the differences and how much was lost in translation due to his mistake does at least for me, make it a bit easier to swallow. Again, there are still stupid moments sure, but I can at least see what he was trying to do much more clearly.

And heck, some of the better ideas it had in terms of gameplay got carried forward into Dread. He’s clearly learned from his mistakes. I don’t see how constantly hating on him is doing anything other than creating more resentment at this point, and is in fact, a reason why I started falling out with the fanbase.

 

[X Prime]

The Sakamoto defender has logged on.

 

[LightDragonman1]

I’m not gonna defend him completely btw. It is still entirely his fault that Other M turned out as the mess it became, due to him insisting on having his hands on all the areas of its development, even those that he had no business being a part of. I have no clue what he was thinking there.

Just that the hate for him I think is overblown, especially since it’s been a decade and a half since that game was released, and he’s shown to have learned from it. No need to make up more excuses to slander him any more imo.

 

[StacticShock]

and he’s shown to have learned from it

talk is cheap, faggot.
i wanna see him prove with actions.

i cannot think of a good example either from someone that course corrected, only retards that doubled down like the con man from megaman series.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Metroid Dread wasn’t enough proof?

 

[Dildo_SHwaggins]

I’m not gonna defend him entirely btw. It is still entirely his fault that Other M turned out as the mess it became, due to him insisting on having his hands on all the areas of its development, even those that he had no business being a part of. I have no clue what he was thinking there.

Just that the hate for him I think is overblown, especially since it’s been a decade and a half since that game was released, and he’s shown to have learned from it. No need to make up more excuses to slander him any more imo.

This reminds me alot of the hate Miyamoto gets these days. People always take out of context quotes (or fake) and extrapolate it into some weird vendetta the creator has against the series or developers.

 

[X Prime]

I would actually doubt that Sakamoto has day-to-day involvement at this point. He's too old and high up in the company for that.

 

[StacticShock]

I would actually doubt that Sakamoto has day-to-day involvement at this point. He's too old and high up in the company for that.

you underestimate nipponese spitefulness.

 

[Tate McRae]

I've been playing the Metroid Prime remaster and I forgot how much aimless back and forth backtracking there is until you get an obscure message telling you to figure out how to get into a new area. It's more than a little frustrating, but the game is fun and rewarding when you get going and get to shoot up everything. The thermal visor portions with the space pirates are tedious.

 

[Grub]

I don't know what all the bad reviews about X-Fusion are about. I'm finally getting around to playing it and it's pretty fucking great. Maybe he fixed some shit in the 1.2 version but so far on Normal the difficulty's pretty much right on. I'm playing with the snes controls. The GBA patch uses the GBA controls. So far, it's probably about as good as I'd hoped it would be.

I've been playing the Metroid Prime remaster and I forgot how much aimless back and forth backtracking there is until you get an obscure message telling you to figure out how to get into a new area. It's more than a little frustrating, but the game is fun and rewarding when you get going and get to shoot up everything. The thermal visor portions with the space pirates are tedious.

That's what happened to me last time I replayed it a few months ago. I got to the phazon mines and I was kinda over it and ended up just dropping it and I haven't gone back to finish it up yet. The level design just isn't as fun as I remember.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

This is a theory that I simply can’t get behind, given how Sakamoto has since made references and such to the Prime games in Dread and such, not to mention that he has never in any way said that he hates the Prime games, never said they weren’t canon, and in fact was a supervisor on them, with Bryan Walker of Retro saying he was extremely helpful during the development.

Just sounds like another way to slander the guy, and to big up the Prime series and act like Retro is the only devs allowed to work on it now. Almost makes me resent the Prime games at this point, if this is the sort of self-righteous mindset that it has placed into the people who worship them as being the greatest in the series (and Prime 1 is my favorite game in the franchise btw).

More than anything, he was just trying to go for a more cinematic approach, and things didn’t go too well, especially since he made the absolutely bone-headed decision to head up the translation himself, despite not speaking English that well. If there was anything that did dump on Prime, then that was unintentional, not malicious.

Course, that’s not to say that the original script is good, cause it frankly isn’t. But knowing the differences and how much was lost in translation due to his mistake does at least for me, make it a bit easier to swallow. Again, there are still stupid moments sure, but I can at least see what he was trying to do much more clearly.

And heck, some of the better ideas it had in terms of gameplay got carried forward into Dread. He’s clearly learned from his mistakes. I don’t see how constantly hating on him is doing anything other than creating more resentment at this point, and is in fact, a reason why I started falling out with the fanbase.

When did Sakamoto reference the Prime games himself? You can go back to 2010 and various publications outline his comments about Prime not being canon or at least "existing on their own" removed from what he called the mainline Metroid series.

It never gets tiring explaining how utterly retarded Other M's Samus portrayal was. There's "trying to be cinematic", and then there's turning Samus into a crying little girl in a dress just to maximize melodrama. And this happens in a Ridley scene which was like the 3rd/4th time this fucker had been resurrected (NOT counting the Prime games). Even brainstorming a scene like that suggests to me this dude didn't understand a single thing about The Hunter. We don't even need to bring up the Adam shit, which in and of itself contradicts stuff from Fusion, making you wonder how Samus could ever respect or look up to a guy who literally shot her in the back to """""help her""""".

And I largely credit Mercury Steam with what was done in Dread - from ganking its very name right from a Prime 3 easter egg, to Samus basically acting like Gabriel from Castlevania Lords of Shadow, the game was very Mercury Steam. And Dread had its share of lore bastardizations, namely creating the warmongering Chozo. The Chozo race being lowered to one that has "splintered factions" and other petty shit hurts their enigmatic nature. The Chozo were supposed to be above all that, having advanced to such a state where they basically remove themselves from our base plane of existence. Now, there are also Meanie Face Chozo... it just seems so wrote to me. Like they said "Ahh, what if we made some BAD Chozo, and then retcon one of them to be Samus' father Oooooooo remember star wars! I am your father Samus! Lolol!"... deep man.

God I miss the Prime Chozo. Literally just cool dudes who helped other races advance, referred to Samus as their "Hatchling", and built the best locations in the entire series. SkyTown is Peak Metroid.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Again, he was a supervisor on the Prime trilogy, and was the main guiding hand behind both SR and Dread.

Just because he messed up with Other M doesn’t mean that one should try to discredit everything else he did or does, nor try to say that he had nothing to do with the more beloved entries.

Nor should Other M also be used as a reason to keep only Western influences in the series, at least imo. I swear, that game has made the fanbase paranoid of anything that isn’t the polar opposite of that game.

I’d rather not have Samus be some sort of Doomslayer-esque roided up girlboss. Even in the Prime games, she wasn’t that, and showed a caring side to her, or was she shown as unfeminine.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

2000-2005 gave us great N64, GBC, GBA, DS, and DS games.

I'm triggered I can't edit this, but I obviously meant GC at the end

Again, he was a supervisor on the Prime trilogy, and was the main guiding hand behind both SR and Dread.

Just because he messed up with Other M doesn’t mean that one should try to discredit everything else he did or does, nor try to say that he had nothing to do with the more beloved entries.

Nor should Other M also be used as a reason to keep only Western influences in the series, at least imo. I swear, that game has made the fanbase paranoid of anything that isn’t the polar opposite of that game.

I’d rather not have Samus be some sort of Doomslayer-esque roided up girlboss. Even in the Prime games, she wasn’t that, and showed a caring side to her, or was she shown as unfeminine.

I never played Other M, but it looks fine to me. There's some legitimate criticisms based on what I can tell, but a lot are just angry Samus wasn't badass girlboss enough for them. It was made by the Ninja Gaiden guys if I recall correctly, so the gameplay seems fun enough.