Infected MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

[Charles Kinbote]

In fact, it's been made to these idiots so often that they added it to their shaming-language rainbow rather than address it.

Under the name of NAWALT, or something more specific?

 

[SU 390]

If it makes you feel better both Wachowskis brothers are now transgender. Every time I see that movie, I think of a million MRAs and MGTOWs shaping their entire worldview from a sci-fi flick made by two men who were slowly turning into women.

Hahaha, jokes on them, eh? Couldn't even create something original. Even road signs aren't safe.

You make a great point, but I always found it funny that they support it, yet a tran--sexual had a large say and influence in the Matrix's creation and I always viewed it as a soft-core romance.

My guess is that they still support the Matrix regardless the Wachowskis brothers being trans. They probably feel bad for them because the Wachowskis were probably poisoned by the anti-male propaganda and feminism indoctrination circulating the West. Not to mention becoming mtf transexuals will make their lives more better since females are the most privileged and protected in Western Society. But that's my guess anyway.

 

[DuskEngine]

My guess is that they still support the Matrix regardless the Wachowskis brothers being tranny. They probably feel bad for them because the Wachowskis were probably poisoned by the anti-male propaganda and feminism indoctrination circulating the West. Not to mention becoming mtf transexuals will make their lives more better since females are the most privileged and protected in Western Society. But that's my guess anyway.

You are a fucking sped. If banning you wouldn't trigger an autistic backlash it'd be justifiable at this point. Stop shitting up legitimate threads with your lazy, passive-aggressive shitposting. You've been in these threads for half a fucking year.

 

[AnOminous]

You are a fucking sped. If banning you wouldn't trigger an autistic backlash it'd be justifiable at this point. Stop shitting up legitimate threads with your lazy, passive-aggressive shitposting. You've been in these threads for half a fucking year.

A pasta is born.

 

[SU 390]

You are a fucking sped. If banning you wouldn't trigger an autistic backlash it'd be justifiable at this point. Stop shitting up legitimate threads with your lazy, passive-aggressive shitposting. You've been in these threads for half a fucking year.

My post was mere satire. No need to bust an artery.

 

[Watcher]

I occasionally watch a few MGTOW videos mostly to get a perspective on their viewpoint and i've noticed so much of their viewpoint is built around spite.

Almost all MGTOW men have this very twisted perspective on reality. Where they view women almost as akin to a separate species or entity in society and they always view them as being inherently malicious.

There's a youtuber named "Sandman" I watch occasionally and I remember he said at one point he told his mother he didn't want to get married. And he described his mother giving him this "look that other women had given me. Basically saying "the jig is up" the guy seriously considers that women have a conspiracy built into them from birth to try and trick men into relationships.

There's a lot of things that immediately were red flags when watching MGTOW videos. The biggest being this very clear distrust and fear of women. A good example is they continuously state that women will generally divorce a man and take half of his money and his children. Which assumes that the woman married a man and had children with him purely so she could then destroy her financial stability and children's future just for a weekly paycheque.

Much like neo nazis they also have a convenient excuse to dismiss criticism. If a woman criticizes them they can call them a feminist and dismiss all arguments. If a man criticizes them they can call them a bluepill or a beta male and dismiss all arguments.

But that being said...it's bad for me because they treat women with brazen disrespect and can be the biggest male-cunts ever... but they feel you should respect them in turn and frankly shut the fuck up. Simply cuz 'ballz'.

This is another thing I really dislike. MGTOW generally prescribe a lot of negative traits to women but never any to men. To them women are akin to an enemy that the only logical conclusion is to "go your own way" so you can protect yourself from them. Which already shows a severe insecurity towards the opposite sex.

I have never met, talked to or knew of people so eager to be so miserable and borderline psychotic. They say they are 'free', but they sound like the most in bondage of their own hatred of themselves, women and above all 'the system'. The media blames the 'loominaughty'. Racists blame 'Jews', 'blacks' and 'the white man'. MGTOW blames 'bitches'. Or just 'women'. To them, there is no such thing as a 'good' woman... and to the most extreme ones, the only 'good' one is a dead one.

Most MGTOW I've watched videos on are also anti-semetic, racist or misogynist in some way. MGTOW is just a symptom of a greater psychological disease.

I would presume they should practice what they preach and start with their own mothers. After all... many seem to have mother issues. (Raised by single mothers). If that's the case, unless your mother was the mom from hell, why not attack the one who chose not to involve himself in your life? There are many fathers out there who still spend time with their children from a past marriage. You divorce your spouse, not your children. And if the courts deemed you unfit to get close to the wife or the child... more than likely, there is a pretty damn good reason.

Mother issues and father issues tend to be common. A lot of MGTOW I've listened to describe their fathers as beta males and their mothers as manipulators.

Of all extremist groups I have come across, they have to be one of the worst. And I've had to listen to a room full of SJW and radical feminists shriek and talk at the same time. Even they pale in comparison to the more rabid MGTOWS out there.

I'm inclined to disagree since MGTOWs are at least benign and don't try to enforce societal change.

I was raised to and treat all genders, races, nationalities and people in general with kindness. I have a thing with giving everyone the benefit of the doubt because I'd like to believe the majority of others are good or halfway decent people. I have been taken advantage because of this a few times and even called 'dumb' because of it. By the time I was 20, I was able to spot these characters and get away from them, but still treat them with a cordial amount of respect. Even if I thought they were the biggest slimes in the world. But I refuse to treat people with disrespect and loathing... yet still expect respect. It shouldn't work that way and it doesn't.

This is the crux of the problem with MGTOW. It's inherantly based on spite. It's based on an entitled view on the world where they are owed something and because they haven't gotten it, they need to view something as to blame. And women are a good scapegoat for all of the problems in their lives because they might've had a shitty experience having relationships.

It's fine you don't want to get married and it's fine you want to convince others not to marry. But don't come up to married couples, shove the wife aside and ask the bloke what he thinks of MGTOW while treating the wife like she's not there or filming her 'cunty' reaction. If the roles were reversed and some man or woman came up to the wife, shoved the husband aside, stuck a microphone in her face and asked her what she thought of his/her 'enlightened' movement about scumbag husbands I can guarantee there would be a fight or a push and shove match.

I've actually found that MGTOWs generally talk about wanting children constantly. And that they want to get married but are obsessed with finding virgin women and women who aren't "sluts". Essentially they want women who aren't beholden to the same standards they set out for themselves. The aforementioned Sandman I described said he left his previous girlfriend because she admitted she didn't want children. They talk a lot about wanting to propagate the species and pseudo social science about how you're not an alpha male unless you spread your genes. Which is extremely outdated sensibilities from a different era.

And Reason #4: ANYTHING with a female on it or anything involving a female...they feel obliged to bash it into the ground. Female singer, actress, artist, comedian, youtuber, gym member, musician, teacher, hair-dresser, chef, model, news anchor. Politicians are their favorite. Their other favorite targets are famous women. They give no fucks. You WILL be rated on your 'fuckability', your weight, how short your hair is, what color you dyed it, if your lips are red or if you wear glasses. You can almost hear them salivating at the thought of all women 'hitting the wall'. Which now is age 24. :/ I am 26... so... woe is me? I am not a vain person nor I am the best looking at all. And that's okay. I would rather be known for my contributions to society, my talents and what good I can do for others. (Gasp, but as a female, there is nothing I can ever ope to contribute outside of my 'natural use') =.=

They tend to view all women as the same. Like it's inevitable a woman will lie to you, a woman will sleep with someone else etc. MGTOW is based on insecurity and it is based on spite. It is born from the mind of very fearful men who need something convenient to blame in their lives rather than come to grips with the reality that they are losers.

 

[GL99]

Great post Watcher, but the only thing I would disagree with is when you say

MGTOWs are at least benign and don't try to enforce societal change.

There's a distinct and loud minority of MGTOW who advocate violence and social disruption. I caught some archived links and posted them here earlier, but the point bears repeating:

http://archive.is/fBG1y
-Some guy saying we need an "ISIS like group" (and Thelema, for some bizarre reason)

http://archive.is/sG8pt
-on a MGTOW site, Tim completely chimps out and threatens violence against Obama and his family.

There's more where that came from, but suffice it to say any group of people on a Secret Service watchlist is unlikely to be particularly benign.

 

[RepQuest]

Much like neo nazis they also have a convenient excuse to dismiss criticism. If a woman criticizes them they can call them a feminist and dismiss all arguments. If a man criticizes them they can call them a bluepill or a beta male and dismiss all arguments.

So they're doing the same shit that the critical theorists many of them claim to despise did? Awesome.

Most MGTOW I've watched videos on are also anti-semetic, racist or misogynist in some way. MGTOW is just a symptom of a greater psychological disease.

Crank magnetism in action.

A good example is they continuously state that women will generally divorce a man and take half of his money and his children. Which assumes that the woman married a man and had children with him purely so she could then destroy her financial stability and children's future just for a weekly paycheque.

I've actually found that MGTOWs generally talk about wanting children constantly. And that they want to get married but are obsessed with finding virgin women and women who aren't "sluts".

They often come from deep blue cities or whatever term is used for large urban areas that tend to be extremely left-wing relative to the national average. Those places tend to have higher divorce rates, at least in the US, and it's often quite difficult to find women who share their "traditional" values, though their problem is that they either haven't tried to find one, haven't had any success if they have, or their standards are too high. They're just really bitter, and I can't blame them for that, although their reaction to their lack of success with women is both extreme and stupid.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

Hahaha, jokes on them, eh? Couldn't even create something original. Even road signs aren't safe.

Between MGTOW and ADF, roadsigns will never be safe again

I wanted to share Shoe and Skeptic's video about a MGTOW that responded to the original vid Skeptalot did:

 

[GL99]

The MGTOW responses to Armored Skeptic's videos have been generally both insane and retarded. I can't imagine a more inept advertisement for their joke of a movement than their attempts to defend it.

 

[Adamska]

The MGTOW responses to Armored Skeptic's videos have been generally both insane and retarded. I can't imagine a more inept advertisement for their joke of a movement than their attempts to defend it.

The funniest thing is that Skeptic was actually fairly lenient towards them, giving the idea a fair shot and being relatively nice about it by the character's standards. They still acted like retarded insane chimps and are still screaming to this day.

 

[LonnieBrighton777]

I hate to say this... don't mean to sound too shallow but... most MGTOW videos feature people who are gobby, overweight, balding, have very bad skin, look like their personal hygiene is poor and the fashion police should be knocking at their doors at any moment now. They just look completely unkempt and in general poor health. Most have no goals, no aspirations and no education. If they have hobbies, they tend not to be very good at them and hate the world for that too.

I suppose I can understand if you are... well... not too gifted in the 'looks' department, but personality comes a long way. I've seen and known of people who would have been rated as ones and twos by the general public, but their genuine winning personality and kind and warm nature made everyone forget how they looked and they had no problems whatsoever with women. Being a self-proclaimed 'nice guy' doesn't cut it. Usually, when you have to trumpet over and over again just how 'nice' you are... then clearly... you aren't.

Oh, and MGTOWs scoff at the idea of 'inner beauty'. Says even more about them. They sure as heck don't got any of that going for them that's for dern sure.

Yet, they call women who have refinement, taste, talent, hobbies, education, good looks, money... well, these things are 'snobby'. They despise physically fit women as well. They hate women who put an effort into looking good, yet hate slovenly, sloppy looking women as well. Everyone should groom for the sake of health, appearance and getting a better deal in life in general. I'm not vain, but I make sure I am presentable and not a slob. If people want to think I am a ''slut'' for looking presentable, then... I dunno what to tell em.

They also have the utter nads to say that ''they'' are the prize in the relationship, not the woman. Shouldn't both people be a prize for each other in a relationship? Why are they constantly talking about relationships if they are MGTOW?

But to be frank, with these men and their mindsets, personalities and looks, I wouldn't exactly call them 'prizes'. At least with the Tumblr feminists, if they are ugly, I can be distracted by their neon purple hair.

These men want the perfect little woman(men) who looks like a 10-rated model from Sweden that has a high sex drive, knows how to cook like a chef, be completely submissive to their 'manly-man-ness', have them make the house sparkle and gleam, always have a smile on their faces, not one single complaint or disagreement and be the old fashioned wife doomed to be home-bound for life.. Basically, they want someone who is stellar (mainly in looks, these people are strict lookism-struck) , yet they themselves do not match this ideal. At ALL. The contrast is incredible.

Funnily enough, they treat all women with this 'expiration' date in looks. Everyone has their youth expiration... however, they keep saying this to women as if that'll make them drop the panties faster. Yes, because nothing says sexy to me when you are insinuating that the second I get a gray hair, I'll be dumped after being used. And for my looks only. How insulting. And these men actually feel this line of thinking will make us 'shape up' and fall in line. No. We will find less crappy people to associate with.

There is nothing wrong with having high standards. But don't have these high standards and expect them to come to you on a silver platter when you are not a high standard yourself. If you want a prize, you need to present yourself as a prize as well. Making a video with your smug-pug face, throwing a tantrum, twirling around your wine-glass from Goodwill, filled with a cheap 7-11 wine,wearing your stained, opened button-up shirt, sitting on a beat up couch in your friend's apartment does not make you a 'prize'.

And to be honest here, some of these people are just plain butt-ugly... but that could be the fact that they are ugly on the inside. They have every right to have 'high standards', but girls who have high standards is simply asinine.

The thing that kills me is MGTOW fiercely advocates to these 'poor souls' to better themselves by going to the gym and getting a cool car and saving money. If these men were not doing this before MGTOW... and all they are doing is whining and letting the hatred eat away at them, there's no way in hell they'll do all that stuff now. If you are not motivated, you have to motive you and get you moving. Not a simple movement.

Besides, if they are getting in shape, getting money and getting a rad ride just for 'female attention', then they are are not going their own way at all. They fall back at square one all over again. I like how most of them say they will not give up sex with women. It's their way of saying 'Look I may be stupid, but I'm not crazy or anything'. But I doubt women would want anything to do with them anyhow. And that should be the bees knees with them.

I am starting to think this movement stemmed from the gen 'x' crowd. Wanting something so much, but never willing to put in true work for it or change oneself to obtain their desires. Everything is supposed to just fall into their laps. Everyone gets a trophy. Everyone wins without effort. I guess women fall into the 'trophy' category. When these men look around and wonder where the hell their perfect trophy is, then that's when you get problems. They were OWED that trophy. It was their RIGHT. But when these trophies keep 'slipping' away from them. (ala ignoring them), then things start going on in their minds.

Looking through TFM's archive I found this one

LOL, for a group going their own way, they sure do like the ladies still. X'D

I cannot fathom how they can hate/distrust/despise a gender so much, yet still get off on it and want to fuck it.

Must be rough on the psych.

My guess is that they still support the Matrix regardless the Wachowskis brothers being tranny. They probably feel bad for them because the Wachowskis were probably poisoned by the anti-male propaganda and feminism indoctrination circulating the West. Not to mention becoming mtf transexuals will make their lives more better since females are the most privileged and protected in Western Society. But that's my guess anyway.

.....Suuuuurrree....

 

[DrChristianTroy]

LOL, for a group going their own way, they sure do like the ladies still. X'D

I cannot fathom how they can hate/distrust/despise a gender so much, yet still get off on it and want to fuck it.

Must be rough on the psych.

Wack assholes acting like wack assholes seems pretty straight forward.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

They often come from deep blue cities or whatever term is used for large urban areas that tend to be extremely left-wing relative to the national average. Those places tend to have higher divorce rates, at least in the US, and it's often quite difficult to find women who share their "traditional" values, though their problem is that they either haven't tried to find one, haven't had any success if they have, or their standards are too high. They're just really bitter, and I can't blame them for that, although their reaction to their lack of success with women is both extreme and stupid.

Red cities are full of bristol palin look alikes, religious single moms.

A traditional woman wants a perfect family man right out of the box, good job, wants kids like right now, tradition has already dictated what they should be doing in life so time is just wasting. The dating quality of the women of course is as varied as anywhere. If your pick of wife is bad in a red state waiting around for years until she shows her true colors before you marry happens less. This may be part of why divorce rates are actually higher in red states
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/21/divorce-study_n_4639430.html
I don't think that anyone looks at your typical MGTOW and sees a leave it to beaver household in the making. I think this is all about the fschmidt/marijan theory that without pressure to marry , 5 chads will perpetually fuck like 20 women leaving no boyfriend free girls for nice guys. In a more traditional setting these guys would marry later in life, if at all and they would probably end up marrying a less attractive woman and if they won't settle for that... someone hot and mentally ill.

Wack assholes acting like wack assholes seems pretty straight forward.

Lol I'm not sure if you're serious or just in character I think going your own way is probably a healthy reaction to a breakup, once upon a time you'd withdraw or maybe get support from friends and family but now there is a toxic internet support group for these guys that encourages them to stay that way forever. I think the core mtgow members.. the ones who set the tone of the community are probably a lighter version of the wizardchan hardliner who bans people for having friends.

 

[DrChristianTroy]

Lol I'm not sure if you're serious or just in character I think going your own way is probably a healthy reaction to a breakup, once upon a time you'd withdraw or maybe get support from friends and family but now there is a toxic internet support group for these guys that encourages them to stay that way forever. I think the core mtgow members.. the ones who set the tone of the community are probably a lighter version of the wizardchan hardliner who bans people for having friends.

No we're talking the same thing. People staying single after a break up, totally normal behavior. The MGTOW denizens are wack assholes. Thought that was clear.

 

[Shroom King]

No we're talking the same thing. People staying single after a break up, totally normal behavior. The MGTOW denizens are wack assholes. Thought that was clear.

I think he is referring to the toxic effect of staying in the echo-chamber that one can only imagine happens on MGTOW sites and message boards. 30 years ago, a guy going MGTOW would not have been bullshitted into believing he is a part of some sexual revolution just because the computer told him so.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

I think he is referring to the toxic effect of staying in the echo-chamber that one can only imagine happens on MGTOW sites and message boards. 30 years ago, a guy going MGTOW would not have been bullshitted into believing he is a part of some sexual revolution just because the computer told him so.

Yeah after a breakup or divorce seems to be a popular time to join a cult. So there is a cult that re-enforces this post breakup behavior and it's core is piss in bottle shut-ins.
I'd be curious to know how long your average board poster sticks around.

 

[SU 390]

I think he is referring to the toxic effect of staying in the echo-chamber that one can only imagine happens on MGTOW sites and message boards. 30 years ago, a guy going MGTOW would not have been bullshitted into believing he is a part of some sexual revolution just because the computer told him so.

You may never know. The world is not always what it seems. I'm sure this sort of bullshit existed but formed in a completely different way.

 

[DykesDykesChina]

MGTOW -- at the first glance one would be tempted to think it's some kind of weapons system:

...but in fact it is something far lamer.

 

[LonnieBrighton777]

MGTOW -- at the first glance one would be tempted to think it's some kind of weapons system:

...but in fact it is something far lamer.

Hahahah. Good one.

Though to be fair, I thought it was an acronym for lets say.... construction work or truck driving. :v

My second guess was a 'midget movement'. :l