Infected MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

[Cosmos]

They want women to pay a price for having sex. Promiscuity is bad for women, it makes them sluts or whores or whatever and that's evil.

But it's all cool for men, who can be sleazy PUAs or go manipulate some girl who just turned 18 yesterday, that's owning her. That's all fine and dandy, it's the cool thing to do.

The double standard is what pisses me off so much. You see it all the time in pickup artists/"redpilled" guys who are obsessed with getting sex. They talk about what whores women are for having casual sex and it's just like BRUH, do you not see the hypocrisy? So it's totally cool and normal for men to have casual sex but when women do it, it's evil and an indication of the fall of Western civilization? Who the fuck are you expecting to have sex with then, if women are all supposed to be pure virgins until marriage? You know that if all women waited until marriage for sex these exact same men would be bitching about what frigid prudes women are.

I also just love guys who are obsessed with female virginity but have had sex themselves. So virginity is super important... unless it's your own, I guess. Or a man's in general. You see that all the time in patriarchal cultures too, where men are allowed to go out and sow their wild oats (with dirty women, of course) whereas "respectable" women are basically never allowed to even look at men and just sit in a corner until they get an arranged marriage.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Men Getting Their Own Waifus.

 

[ufukiniggas]

...Can we get Feminazi stickers during the next funding run?

 

[Mad Asshatter]

@redcent. @Cosmos

In essence, they are hypocrites. I've had a couple try to 'educate' me and why it was 'important' to manipulate women into sleeping with them and what women were 'like.'

It isn't also just only about sex, they have a very odd Darwinian notion of 'passing on/spreading one's genes' and have this whole mindset seemingly built around it. It's why they also seem to be somewhat obsessed with women's youth and 'the wall' and whether or not some other man has had sex with her.

Ironically, despite this Darwinist outlook, they seem to get really triggered when this 'natural selection' works against them, as when the woman chooses a man that is to her preferences (i.e. not him) or aborts her pregnancy (again selecting against his genes.) That is often where you start seeing the resentment, the Chad/Virgin/Stacy memes, the desire to strip women of equal rights and self-agency, and anything else that will cripple her ability to 'refuse' him and avoid passing on his oh so precious genes.

 

[off meds / online]

...Can we get Feminazi stickers during the next funding run?

kiwifarms brand pussy hats?

 

[redcent]

@redcent. @Cosmos

In essence, they are hypocrites. I've had a couple try to 'educate' me and why it was 'important' to manipulate women into sleeping with them and what women were 'like.'

It isn't also just only about sex, they have a very odd Darwinian notion of 'passing on/spreading one's genes' and have this whole mindset seemingly built around it. It's why they also seem to be somewhat obsessed with women's youth and 'the wall' and whether or not some other man has had sex with her.

Ironically, despite this Darwinist outlook, they seem to get really triggered when this 'natural selection' works against them, as when the woman chooses a man that is to her preferences (i.e. not him) or aborts her pregnancy (again selecting against his genes.) That is often where you start seeing the resentment, the Chad/Virgin/Stacy memes, the desire to strip women of equal rights and self-agency, and anything else that will cripple her ability to 'refuse' him and avoid passing on his oh so precious genes.

It is in part (but not entirely) due to some society, whether from TV shows and rom coms pushing the whole getting married and having the 2.5 kids or just plain getting laid, or family pushing them to give them grandchildren or whatever. And there should be less shaming of the single or unmarried or virgins.

But the rest is just narcissism. What's having a kid going to accomplish? Will the kid grow up to follow in his father's footsteps or would the kid rebel or "go his own way"... Away from his Dad? will the kid grow up and have kids of his or her own or would they decide to not or adopt. Will some big disaster occur destroying the world rendering the whole idea pointless? Then there's all the effort into raising the kid.

I'm sure there are many happy parents out there but when you're out to be one you should do so for a better reason than "spreading your genes" your genes aren't that special. Chances are you're just spreading cancer anyway

 

[#zzz]

In essence, they are hypocrites. I've had a couple try to 'educate' me and why it was 'important' to manipulate women into sleeping with them and what women were 'like.'

It isn't also just only about sex, they have a very odd Darwinian notion of 'passing on/spreading one's genes' and have this whole mindset seemingly built around it. It's why they also seem to be somewhat obsessed with women's youth and 'the wall' and whether or not some other man has had sex with her.

I think it's partly narcissism and poor self-esteem, the hypocritical arguments are them trying to delude themselves, to protect themselves. Some of these guys could probably get a girl if they changed their ways, but they are probably so self-centered and of such poor self esteem they can't get a girl and therefore place blame on women and "the system".

They should be looking at themselves, but firstly to recognise that you're the problem, and then to go about basically rebuilding yourself from the ground up? It's too much for most people. And with things how they are going, I see only an increase these types of guys in the future.

I'm sure some incel reading would say "But women don't have to do that, it's not fair!" who ever said life was fair? Though that said, those types of girls will leave a string of failed abusive relationships and end up alone at 40.

 

[Mr Snek]

I'm sure there are many happy parents out there but when you're out to be one you should do so for a better reason than "spreading your genes" your genes aren't that special. Chances are you're just spreading cancer anyway

Children are the only thing we can make that will have any meaning when we're dead. Plus anyone can pass on their genes, it doesn't require them to be successful in any other part of their life, unless they're infertile. In short, it's the only goal that makes sense from a nihilistic mindset.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Children are the only thing we can make that will have any meaning when we're dead. Plus anyone can pass on their genes, it doesn't require them to be successful in any other part of their life, unless they're infertile. In short, it's the only goal that makes sense from a nihilistic mindset.

Besides art, community involvement, or scientific engagement. But yes, those do require you to actually try to engage with the human race as a whole; something MGTOW seem vehemently opposed to, in case they catch cooties.

 

[Mad Asshatter]

Children are the only thing we can make that will have any meaning when we're dead. Plus anyone can pass on their genes, it doesn't require them to be successful in any other part of their life, unless they're infertile. In short, it's the only goal that makes sense from a nihilistic mindset.

The bolded is a very flawed premise. Let's take it to the logical conclusion, eh?

Albert Einstein's achievements don't matter, as the only thing that has any meaning are his children.

Isaac Asimov's achievements don't matter, as the only things that mean anything are his children.

Leonardo Di Vinci's achievements don't matter. The only thing that has meaning that he created are his children.

I'm guessing that you are a parent who thinks the only meaning of your life is your children. While most parents love their children very very much, I doubt that they would want the only major 'achievement' and meaningful accomplishment they ever had in life to be 'I made a baby.''

 

[redcent]

Children are the only thing we can make that will have any meaning when we're dead. Plus anyone can pass on their genes, it doesn't require them to be successful in any other part of their life, unless they're infertile. In short, it's the only goal that makes sense from a nihilistic mindset.

We're living in the middle of an epidemic. People die. People die childless. Happy couples who have finally met someone who will consent to the whole family deal have one or the other or both who are dying childless. Single people die childless. And even if this epidemic blows over? There's the next epidemic, or another disaster, like tropical storms, tornadoes, earthquakes. War. Random car crashes. Cancer. It goes on, and people die childless all the time.

People die, married or unmarried. And if you get married and have a few kids, they could all die from said disasters anyway. Because that's life. Heck, you could have sperm that only gives you daughters that all get killed by a serial killer who's into the whole anti-women shit some mgtow followers promote. You could even successfully raise a son who kills himself because having your father see you as nothing but an ego extension is rather shit. Maybe he kills himself because he's gay and Daddy won't get a clue he doesn't want to reproduce. Ever.

There you go, all that effort and it's all gone. You put all your meaning in life into "spreading your genes" and it's snuffed out in an instant, and that's reality. Might as well cut to the chase and just say your life is meaningless.

Instead of extending your meaningless life, try putting some quality into it, not quantity. Kids aren't an insurance for your cancer genes and your crap life story.

 

[Mr Snek]

The bolded is a very flawed premise. Let's take it to the logical conclusion, eh?

Albert Einstein's achievements don't matter, as the only thing that has any meaning are his children.

Isaac Asimov's achievements don't matter, as the only things that mean anything are his children.

Leonardo Di Vinci's achievements don't matter. The only thing that has meaning that he created are his children.

I'm guessing that you are a parent who thinks the only meaning of your life is your children. While most parents love their children very very much, I doubt that they would want the only major 'achievement' and meaningful accomplishment they ever had in life to be 'I made a baby.''

Ah yes, because we all know that everyone who works hard will be remembered for their amazing achievements in art and science. You've got better odds of winning the lottery than actually being remembered after you die.

 

[off meds / online]

We're living in the middle of an epidemic. People die. People die childless. Happy couples who have finally met someone who will consent to the whole family deal have one or the other or both who are dying childless. Single people die childless. And even if this epidemic blows over? There's the next epidemic, or another disaster, like tropical storms, tornadoes, earthquakes. War. Random car crashes. Cancer. It goes on, and people die childless all the time.

People die, married or unmarried. And if you get married and have a few kids, they could all die from said disasters anyway. Because that's life. Heck, you could have sperm that only gives you daughters that all get killed by a serial killer who's into the whole anti-women shit some mgtow followers promote. You could even successfully raise a son who kills himself because having your father see you as nothing but an ego extension is rather shit. Maybe he kills himself because he's gay and Daddy won't get a clue he doesn't want to reproduce. Ever.

There you go, all that effort and it's all gone. You put all your meaning in life into "spreading your genes" and it's snuffed out in an instant, and that's reality. Might as well cut to the chase and just say your life is meaningless.

Instead of extending your meaningless life, try putting some quality into it, not quantity. Kids aren't an insurance for your cancer genes and your crap life story.

this is the post that made me understand what blackpilling is. thanks OP.

 

[redcent]

this is the post that made me understand what blackpilling is. thanks OP.

And you reminded me to take my monthly vitamin D pill. Thanks

 

[TowinKarz]

Ah yes, because we all know that everyone who works hard will be remembered for their amazing achievements in art and science. You've got better odds of winning the lottery than actually being remembered after you die.

You don't have to be famous to have a lasting positive societal impact.

The guy who owns the towing company I work for whose investment allowed me to have a job for 20 years and to also to go on to positively affect others by providing them with aid when they're cold and broken down roadside in the middle of the night counts for something, I'd wager.

At least it counts a lot more than 3 out of wedlock kids dropped by some trailer-trash meth-heads who, by MRA standards, did more to help society by spreading their genes around than I did, since I'm unmarried, childless, and will be for life....

Not having kids doesn't make you a failure

Having them isn't guaranteed success

Besides, I baby-sat as a kid, worked in the Boy Scouts, made donations to Toys for Tots at Christmas, donated to food banks, I was a passable friend at worst, so while maybe I didn't inspire anyone, I didn't give anyone a complex and ruin their life as a bully.... some of goodwill must have filtered down to someone's kid and bumped up their chances of growing up happy and able, doesn't that mean I helped anyway?

Life is too nuanced to judge it's meaning by any one tick-box you can or can't check off.

 

[Mr Snek]

All any of you are saying is that MGTOW is stupid because it has a tangible goal in life rather than thinking life is meaningless or following some bullshit mantra like "lol just be nice to people."

 

[TowinKarz]

All any of you are saying is that MGTOW is stupid because it has a tangible goal in life rather than thinking life is meaningless or following some bullshit mantra like "lol just be nice to people."

It's not that they have a goal, it's that they have a singular one they pursue at the cost of everything else to a slavish degree, while treating anyone else who doesn't have the same goal as stupid and beneath them. Which suggests they have less a goal and more a blind ideological zealotry that causes THEM to do stupid things without even knowing it.

 

[redcent]

All any of you are saying is that MGTOW is stupid because it has a tangible goal in life rather than thinking life is meaningless or following some bullshit mantra like "lol just be nice to people."

MGTOW don't have a goal: all they are about is what they are running away from... poorly. (women)

Maybe if they finally focused on getting towards that alleged goal which can and should be towards themselves more people would all be for it.

 

[Mr Snek]

Maybe if they finally focused on getting towards that alleged goal which can and should be towards themselves more people would all be for it.

Now that I can agree with. I say they return to the days of raping and pillaging to spread their genes and influence.

 

[Adamska]

All any of you are saying is that MGTOW is stupid because it has a tangible goal in life rather than thinking life is meaningless or following some bullshit mantra like "lol just be nice to people."

Go your own way then and stop crying about how you no get the succ then you whiny little faggot. That's the goal, then just fucking do it and do whatever else rattles in that mind.