Infected MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

[Lizzie Katje]

Fucking Turd Flinging Monkey, the guy who unironically talks about his relationship with his love doll, is still at it after all these years? Pretty sure that clown is the craziest of them all - which makes his large fandom all the more worrying.

I actually agree with SOME of his points like how birthrates have decreased because of so many women choosing careers over motherhood and how laws unfairly favor women over men (which is what MGTOW frequently addresses). But when he (and other MGTOW) cross into using "women" and "feminists" interchangeably and acts like EVERY woman is the same, that's when I get a little annoyed. He also seems to believe that once a woman hits 25, men won't go for her anymore, they'll settle for her. Plus, he thinks that women are incapable of loving men, despite being the emotional gender. "A woman only loves what a man DOES for her and how he makes her FEEL." Okay, what does a man love about a woman then? Her looks? How good she is in bed? That's more lust than love. And he acts like being attracted to a woman's physical beauty/youth/fertility is the same as being attracted to her personality and character. He and his chat buddies have picked apart women's appearances in their videos. There are plenty of women who love and make sacrifices for men. I've even been gathering quotes by him and his ilk. And them advocating for sex bots and artificial wombs to replace women kind of sounds like female genocide. Do they want ALL men to replace women or just the MGTOWs? They act men's sh** don't stink. Some of the comments to his videos are just as bad if not worse.

But I'd say that the craziest one that I've encountered so far would be Angry MGTOW. His channel was deleted some time ago, but he came back as Angry Madman. He once said that if you like a woman, imagine a picture of her burning up in the sun as circus music plays.

There are SO many things that MGTOW could talk about - politics, economics, history, science, personal goals and hobbies, and yes - even toxic gynocentrism/feminism. But 99% of the time, it's about - surprise, surprise - women! So much for removing females from their lives.

 

[Least Concern]

how laws unfairly favor women over men (which is what MGTOW frequently addresses).

This is a talking-point of the MRAs too, though - not necessarily laws but the justice system in general. And having been "divorce raped" (as the MGTOWs say) in the past, I think it's a good one - but I'd never use that phrase for it. MRAs can get obnoxious too, of course, but generally they're much, much less toxic and, especially in the case of TFM, blatantly misogynistic. For people concerned about anti-man bias in sentencing and divorce and that sort of thing who need a movement to latch onto, the MRAs would be a much saner group to follow.

 

[Lizzie Katje]

Fucking Turd Flinging Monkey, the guy who unironically talks about his relationship with his love doll, is still at it after all these years? Pretty sure that clown is the craziest of them all - which makes his large fandom all the more worrying.

He's recycling material now (he often repeats himself anyway). He just "remastered" an old video of his yesterday about marriage, divorce, and MGTOW - comparing women to prostitutes at 9:33.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTh7oo_xXnc
He also regurgitated his anti-egalitarianism video that was posted on here awhile back - claiming that because most combatants are men, men as a whole have responsibility and authority over women. At 12:07, he claims that women are unable to be self-reliant in life and are physically inferior. So I guess women who make enough money to live on their own can't take care of themselves. After all, women are children, don't cha know?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95oD_urdIH0
Also, "physically inferior"? Maybe regarding strength, but not regarding immunity since women get sick less and live longer. Men and women need EACH OTHER. Traditionally and usually, men take care of women by financially supporting her and women take care of men by sexually satisfying him, as well as cooking and cleaning. And you need both genders to start a family and keep humanity alive. And even if they tried replacing women with artificial wombs and turning skin cells into eggs (artificial sperm apparently doesn't work), it would still be unnatural and genocidal. Just because women are different doesn't mean they're objectively lesser.


Also, Sandman (yes, he's still around, too) thinks that women who apparently support MGTOW are only doing it for male attention and to "get men back to the plantation", calling them "chameleons". Yeah, because everything a woman says and does is because of a man. I guess women can't win with this group, no matter what. And he mentions that many women (like myself) say they should stop talking about women, "Yet, women are showing up and talking about US." That's because women are pointing out his blatant hypocrisy. He acts like he's avoiding women like the plague as if they don't exist, yet he constantly features pictures of women in his videos and thumbnails. Women run his life - he talks about them every, single, day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjElmUMqas8

It's a shame, really.

 

[Buer]

^How would raising children even work for MGTOW? Children are a lot of work and require a lot of attention. Being a single parent is really hard and I don't think they'd be able to do it properly. Honestly they'd prob just try to get their sexbot to take care of the kid. If a MGTOW raised them they'd prob become shut-in neets. Just because single moms aren't great parents doesn't mean single dads would be any better. Especially ones with toxic mindsets like most MGTOW.

 

[KittyGremlin]

Fucking Turd Flinging Monkey, the guy who unironically talks about his relationship with his love doll, is still at it after all these years? Pretty sure that clown is the craziest of them all - which makes his large fandom all the more worrying.

Please do share more. I smell potential for a lolcow thread, that guy is unhinged from what I hear.

 

[Least Concern]

Please do share more. I smell potential for a lolcow thread, that guy is unhinged from what I hear.

Well, I don't really know that much about him, but it's a guy who uses a cartoon chimpanzee as his avatar and streams on YouTube and Stream.me, then posts segments of his stream to YouTube. On his stream, he and some toadies go over articles about men being screwed over in divorces, women given preferential treatment at universities, and so on, and sperg about them. Something he brings up often is the need to take away women's rights, by which I presume he means suffrage and maybe the ability to divorce, though I don't know if he's ever spelled out what he means by that. More "moderate" MGTOWs like Raging Golden Eagle will sperg about news articles too, but don't seem as willing to want to turn back the clock on the whole universal civil rights thing…

A while back, a seller of customizable RealDoll-like sex dolls called The Doll House started sponsoring various MGTOWs, including RGE and TFM, and they received free dolls as part of the sponsorship. (Unless I'm mixing him up with someone else, RGE did a particularly cringe-worthy video talking about how he chose the various attributes of his doll, how it was packaged and shipped to him, reviewing its fit and finish, and, yes… going over intended usage and care. Not sure if the vid is still out there, but it might be worth a look if you want to feel really uncomfortable.) TFM got a buxom brunette he named Celestina. The Doll House is still sponsoring TFM, and if you watch his vids on YouTube, "she" appears near the end in a tight top pitching their web site via a synthesized voice, and she also appears in some of his artwork. And, yes, as I mentioned, he sometimes mentions her in his videos as if she's not a heavy lump of plastic that he has to lug around and manually pose.

In his more recent videos, he pitches a novel called "The Doll On My Balls" available through the Kindle e-book store, which I'm sure is fine literature.

 

[Vorhtbame]

And, yes, as I mentioned, he sometimes mentions her in his videos as if she's not a heavy lump of plastic that he has to lug around and manually pose.

It pretty well sums him up to say that he only feels safe around inanimate objects.

 

[Bigmanontheblock]

A while back, a seller of customizable RealDoll-like sex dolls called The Doll House started sponsoring various MGTOWs, including RGE and TFM, and they received free dolls as part of the sponsorship. (Unless I'm mixing him up with someone else, RGE did a particularly cringe-worthy video talking about how he chose the various attributes of his doll, how it was packaged and shipped to him, reviewing its fit and finish, and, yes… going over intended usage and care. Not sure if the vid is still out there, but it might be worth a look if you want to feel really uncomfortable.) TFM got a buxom brunette he named Celestina. The Doll House is still sponsoring TFM, and if you watch his vids on YouTube, "she" appears near the end in a tight top pitching their web site via a synthesized voice, and she also appears in some of his artwork. And, yes, as I mentioned, he sometimes mentions her in his videos as if she's not a heavy lump of plastic that he has to lug around and manually pose.

That is pretty clever business decision on the dollmakers part. Now, if they really want to make money they should start making male dolls that look like Justin Trudeau and market them towards feminists and sjws.

 

[trashbat]

Unless I'm mixing him up with someone else, RGE did a particularly cringe-worthy video talking about how he chose the various attributes of his doll, how it was packaged and shipped to him, reviewing its fit and finish, and, yes… going over intended usage and care. Not sure if the vid is still out there, but it might be worth a look if you want to feel really uncomfortable.

is this it?

edit: that fucking intro sequence

getting absolutely nothing out of sex you couldn't get from a rubber doll has to be the surest sign of an actual mental disorder. he compares the effort of "setting up" his doll to that of going on a date, as though going out and having fun with someone is the same as trying to maintain an erection while you frankenstein your silicone sex toy back together

 

[Lizzie Katje]

Whoa, how did I miss THIS? He makes a jab at potentially suicidal women, especially in the beginning. "WoMeN fAiL aT eVeRyTHiNg, EvEn KiLLiNg ThEmSeLvEs." Tell that to my cousin, whose daughter took her own life. And yeah, I know that women usually use less effective methods like pills instead of guns and whatnot, but women don't always fail, they're just MORE LIKELY to fail. Many men fail, too, including my ex. I once read that suicide can be hard to accomplish because of the survival instinct and that the body fights to keep living. Women only attempt it for attention, at least according to TFM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW7LonP5NvM
And yeah, there are insane women (AND MEN) out there who will threaten suicide if they're dumped, but to group them all together? And again, the video's comments are terrible, a few even saying that they wish they would kill themselves. I hope they're just joking/trolling.

I could post the quotes I've been accumulating by him, especially for TendieMan, if you guys want. I can't remember all of the videos where they came from (I listened to them while working so I couldn't exactly write them down), but I can still show them. They're not all exact, but the ultimate messages are clear.

Also, yeah, that doll's face looks like that of a kid just entering middle school. I bet if it were legal to have sex with/marry a less-than-18-year-old girl, many of these men would do it because "peak fertility". I guess if they're old enough to bleed, they're old enough to breed, am I right?

Also, blaming women again at 4:47 and talking about past videos again at 11:20. Shit Spewing Monkey is more like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ASNvlBk4c

I should pay more attention to his Super Chat. Lots of men saying, "Durrr women bad."

 

[Least Concern]

is this it?

Oh, probably. Google is wanting me to sign in before it will let me skim through it, and… eh, rather not have "[my real name] likes to watch sex doll review videos" recorded in their Skynet in perpetuity. If that is the same video, I had forgotten about that creepy-ass face…

 

[trashbat]

I had forgotten about that creepy-ass face…

he got to make his ideal woman, and it's a child with bolt-on basketball tits

 

[Lizzie Katje]

Sandman's regurgitating, too, apparently. Still calling freethinking women "chameleons". Pa, thetic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCuLtapNqqI

 

[Least Concern]

Sandman's regurgitating, too, apparently. Still calling freethinking women "chameleons". Pa, thetic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCuLtapNqqI

Ughhhhh, this guy's way of speaking drives me nuts. His repetitive tone of voice sounds so robotic.

This particular vid is reminding me of another MGTOW trope: Women are an organized mass who are consciously doing things like sending thots to invade men safe spaces. As if every woman in the world is somehow aware of the plans of unified womankind, on board with it, and carrying out their instructions to the letter. Same sort of nonsense with the alt-right thinking of all non-white people as a homogenous mass with uniform goals. It's a bizarre level of paranoia.

"It's awesome you're living the Unabomber lifestyle." lolwut

 

[Snuckening]

huh… Looking at that guy's channel, I found an even more blatant one:

Is this what that "homosexual agenda" thing looks like? Men going their own way, indeed.

The fact that his main concern about turning gay is whether he should do the stock faggy voice or not is fucking hilarious. Same with his impression of the cock-seeking Stacy-bot; These guys live in cartoonland.

 

[Vorhtbame]

This particular vid is reminding me of another MGTOW trope: Women are an organized mass who are consciously doing things like sending thots to invade men safe spaces. As if every woman in the world is somehow aware of the plans of unified womankind, on board with it, and carrying out their instructions to the letter.

Some years back, when I lingered among these guys (trying to figure out wtf was their problem), there was a guy by the name of "ray" who literally believed exactly that. He would constantly spaz out about how every bad thing in his life was due to a literal conspiracy of every woman in the world, out to get him.

How do I know he really believed it? One girl started using it to shut him down. When he shat up a thread too much, she would tell him that if he didn't STFD and STFU, she'd have the Sisterhood organize a hit on him. And he'd shut up for a week. Funniest damn thing I ever saw.

 

[Lizzie Katje]

Ughhhhh, this guy's way of speaking drives me nuts. His repetitive tone of voice sounds so robotic.

This particular vid is reminding me of another MGTOW trope: Women are an organized mass who are consciously doing things like sending thots to invade men safe spaces. As if every woman in the world is somehow aware of the plans of unified womankind, on board with it, and carrying out their instructions to the letter. Same sort of nonsense with the alt-right thinking of all non-white people as a homogenous mass with uniform goals. It's a bizarre level of paranoia.

"It's awesome you're living the Unabomber lifestyle." lolwut

I'm not alt-right, but I somewhat sympathize with them. But yeah, no inherent group (such as genders and races) are a single monolithic entity, we're individuals.

I also dislike when these MGTOW claim that once a woman is 25 or 30, she won't find a good man or men won't want her anymore - because men only care about youth and fertility, right?

This is one reason why I think women should probably marry in their mid-20s or else they might find a guy who's only looking for "young, hot fertility". I want a partner who puts personality, sensibility, and compatibility first. But then again, according to Shit Spewing Monkey, I'm a slut if I'm caught on the right day. And the other reason why is because the human brain doesn't stop developing until around 25. That means that MGTOW technically want mentally immature women (i.e. children as they like to call us).

 

[DarkEmoMario64]

MGTOWs love to complain that:

1. Women are stupid, irrational, and overly emotional compared to "logical and rational" men.

2. Men have been tricked and played by those dang dirty snake-in-the-grass women since the dawn of human civilization.

Given Black Pigeon Speaks and Turd Flinging Monkeys foundness for STAR WARS I feel I have to post this.

 

[KittyGremlin]

Whoa, how did I miss THIS? He makes a jab at potentially suicidal women, especially in the beginning. "WoMeN fAiL aT eVeRyTHiNg, EvEn KiLLiNg ThEmSeLvEs." Tell that to my cousin, whose daughter took her own life. And yeah, I know that women usually use less effective methods like pills instead of guns and whatnot, but women don't always fail, they're just MORE LIKELY to fail. Many men fail, too, including my ex. I once read that suicide can be hard to accomplish because of the survival instinct and that the body fights to keep living. Women only attempt it for attention, at least according to TFM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW7LonP5NvM
And yeah, there are insane women (AND MEN) out there who will threaten suicide if they're dumped, but to group them all together? And again, the video's comments are terrible, a few even saying that they wish they would kill themselves. I hope they're just joking/trolling.

I could post the quotes I've been accumulating by him, especially for TendieMan, if you guys want. I can't remember all of the videos where they came from (I listened to them while working so I couldn't exactly write them down), but I can still show them. They're not all exact, but the ultimate messages are clear.

Also, yeah, that doll's face looks like that of a kid just entering middle school. I bet if it were legal to have sex with/marry a less-than-18-year-old girl, many of these men would do it because "peak fertility". I guess if they're old enough to bleed, they're old enough to breed, am I right?

Also, blaming women again at 4:47 and talking about past videos again at 11:20. Shit Spewing Monkey is more like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ASNvlBk4c

I should pay more attention to his Super Chat. Lots of men saying, "Durrr women bad."

I'd love to see some more quotes. Really think there's a thread potential for at least one of these fellows. From what I can gather they have rather colorful backgrounds as well.

 

[Least Concern]

CBC: Why incels are a 'real and present threat' for Canadians (Archive)

tl;dr: Some people self-identifying as incels and/or that incels identify as incels have done mass killings, like the Supreme Gentleman and Van of Peacer Alek Minassian (any confirmation this guy was an actual incel and not just a shitposter?). Fear, fear, fear incels and other dangerous far right activist groups, for you may be next.

Incels are dumb. Portraying them as a dangerous threat to humanity might be dumber, though. Certainly connecting them to the alt-right and white supremacists without any evidence is dumb, but expected in current year, so oh well.