Artcow Michael John Kricfalusi / John Kricfalusi / John K. / John K. Stuff / Raymond Spum - scammer animator who pissed away his own career, salty blogger, CONFIRMED predator and child rapist

[Jewelsmakerguy]

He couldn't really draw in any other style, though, unlike a lot of the other guys on Ren and Stimpy. (A lot of animation teachers I can think of will tell you you've got to work in other styles.)

Like, why did John decide to limit himself? Shouldn't it get tiring just drawing the same disgusting designs over and over again?

The man worked at Filmation, DiC and Hanna-Barbara ffs. It doesn't matter if he hated his time at those studios, even they attempted to do more than one style. All John can do is that crappy, over the top style that other animators can do without looking like it was drawn with their mouth.

 

[The Cunting Death]

Joe actually created an educational cartoon for younger kids that will be premiering on PBS next month. That should be interesting.

Here's an episode.

 

[Trilby]

Here's an episode.

Doesn't look too bad. At least they're not doing the "talk to the kids at home" shtick.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Like, why did John decide to limit himself? Shouldn't it get tiring just drawing the same disgusting designs over and over again?

The man worked at Filmation, DiC and Hanna-Barbara ffs. It doesn't matter if he hated his time at those studios, even they attempted to do more than one style. All John can do is that crappy, over the top style that other animators can do without looking like it was drawn with their mouth.

He probably could, but he's since deliberately forgotten how, I assume, because he hated it at all of those studios.

When he was starting out, needless to say, he probably had to draw in a ton of different styles. In his first year at Filmation he was working on Fat Albert and their Flash Gordon and Mighty Mouse cartoons.

Here's an episode.

Note that this is also written by CatDog creator Peter Hannan, so it's a two-for-one on classic Nick creators here.

 

[The Cunting Death]

He probably could, but he's since deliberately forgotten how, I assume, because he hated it at all of those studios.



Note that this is also written by CatDog creator Peter Hannan, so it's a two-for-one on classic Nick creators here.

Also fun fact: The Head of programming at Nick who greenlit Rocko's Modern Life also greenlit Let's Go Luna on PBS Kids

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Also fun fact: The Head of programming at Nick who greenlit Rocko's Modern Life also greenlit Let's Go Luna on PBS Kids

The great, sitar-playing executive Linda Simensky, of course, a woman who can say she's been a part of the great years at both Nick and Cartoon Network.

Did I talk about the story of how John even sold his show to begin with? The way you generally heard the story, he was at a meeting trying to sell the show, and as he was acting out a scene, his inhaler fell out of his pocket and hit Geraldine Laybourne in the face.

Her response: "Buy something from this man!" And that was how Nick picked up Ren and Stimpy.

 

[The Cunting Death]

The great, sitar-playing executive Linda Simensky, of course, a woman who can say she's been a part of the great years at both Nick and Cartoon Network.

Did I talk about the story of how John even sold his show to begin with? The way you generally heard the story, he was at a meeting trying to sell the show, and as he was acting out a scene, his inhaler fell out of his pocket and hit Geraldine Laybourne in the face.

Her response: "Buy something from this man!" And that was how Nick picked up Ren and Stimpy.

Now this is a good example of women in the animation industry.

 

[Technicolor_Sheep]

He couldn't really draw in any other style, though, unlike a lot of the other guys on Ren and Stimpy. (A lot of animation teachers I can think of will tell you you've got to work in other styles.)

If there was one thing john was legitimately good at, (at least in his r&s days) it was picking up up young talent and training them to produce amazing work. I mean look at all of the shit that former r&s people worked on. Like post movie spongebob. Say what you want about the writing but some of that stuff is legitimately the best modern tv animation I have ever seen.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

If there was one thing john was legitimately good at, (at least in his r&s days) it was picking up up young talent and training them to produce amazing work. I mean look at all of the shit that former r&s people worked on. Like post movie spongebob. Say what you want about the writing but some of that stuff is legitimately the best modern tv animation I have ever seen.

A lot of the guys from Ren and Stimpy were actually people John had known on other projects - at Bakshi, at Tiny Toons, at his failed Beany and Cecil revival... And they were all about his age, needless to say.

John didn't start hiring young talent until after he was fired off R&S - and remember, this is when his pedo tendencies really came out. Now why do you think Spumco was always staffed with young talent?

(Admittedly quite a few of the young people at Spumco have gone on to other things, and some get work in the mainstream industry.)

 

[Dark Emporer Dood]

Like, why did John decide to limit himself? Shouldn't it get tiring just drawing the same disgusting designs over and over again?

The man worked at Filmation, DiC and Hanna-Barbara ffs. It doesn't matter if he hated his time at those studios, even they attempted to do more than one style. All John can do is that crappy, over the top style that other animators can do without looking like it was drawn with their mouth.

I dont think he intentionally limits himself, more like he lacks any self-awareness. Theres plenty of cartoonists online that draw the same basic things repeatedly and never seem to notice (and if a fan does the dumb style defense wall rises).

On a side note, as much flack as Filmation/Hanna-Barbara get for their cheap animation, they werent half bad as far as backgrounds and character designs go, it was just that moving-part that they couldnt pull off.

Note that this is also written by CatDog creator Peter Hannan, so it's a two-for-one on classic Nick creators here.

Doesnt look half bad, the art styles quite refreshing compared to whats normally on TV.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I dont think he intentionally limits himself, more like he lacks any self-awareness. Theres plenty of cartoonists online that draw the same basic things repeatedly and never seem to notice (and if a fan does the dumb style defense wall rises).

He probably could draw in other styles, but like I said, he chooses not to. He worked at Filmation, H-B and the like on shows with very different drawing styles doing storyboards and such; and keep in mind you had to be faithful to the show's style in your boards at the time.

(Of course, you have to wonder how he got into the business considering his time at college...)

 

[Lupin The Turd]

I'm actually studying animation myself, a lot of my profs have shared stories about how much of a nut he was while they worked with him in school, R&S and Ripping Friends. I don't want to bug them for more details, especially given the predator controversy, but it's really interesting.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I'm actually studying animation myself, a lot of my profs have shared stories about how much of a nut he was while they worked with him in school, R&S and Ripping Friends. I don't want to bug them for more details, especially given the predator controversy, but it's really interesting.

If they've already shared stories, would you mind sharing them here?

 

[Lupin The Turd]

If they've already shared stories, would you mind sharing them here?

Unfortunately my memory is pretty shit. What I do remember is one where his mom got one of my profs to deliver him a gift sweater and John sperged out over it, saying how she's always breathing down his neck. Another is how he'd talk like a sailor with investors and executives and nearly jeopardize productions with his big mouth.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Unfortunately my memory is pretty shit. What I do remember is one where his mom got one of my profs to deliver him a gift sweater and John sperged out over it, saying how she's always breathing down his neck. Another is how he'd talk like a sailor with investors and executives and nearly jeopardize productions with his big mouth.

That's perfectly consistent with everything I've heard about him. Thank you anyway.

 

[Trilby]

That's perfectly consistent with everything I've heard about him. Thank you anyway.

Ungrateful asshole from the sound of that first anecdote.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I dont think he intentionally limits himself, more like he lacks any self-awareness. Theres plenty of cartoonists online that draw the same basic things repeatedly and never seem to notice (and if a fan does the dumb style defense wall rises).

On a side note, as much flack as Filmation/Hanna-Barbara get for their cheap animation, they werent half bad as far as backgrounds and character designs go, it was just that moving-part that they couldnt pull off.

I mean H-B did manage the moving part better than Lou's company (considering they did those old Tom & Jerry shorts and all). But to say it was any good outside of their movie work by any real stretch would be a gross lie.

 

[Trilby]

I mean H-B did manage the moving part better than Lou's company (considering they did those old Tom & Jerry shorts and all). But to say it was any good outside of their movie work by any real stretch would be a gross lie.

No doubt having to work during that "dead period" of animation would put off a lot of people expecting more out of it I'm sure.

 

[Dark Emporer Dood]

He probably could draw in other styles, but like I said, he chooses not to. He worked at Filmation, H-B and the like on shows with very different drawing styles doing storyboards and such; and keep in mind you had to be faithful to the show's style in your boards at the time.

(Of course, you have to wonder how he got into the business considering his time at college...)

Odds are hes forgotten how over time, be it intentionally or by accident. How long was John at college? Cant be like today where a Caliarts certificate is almost a must have.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Odds are hes forgotten how over time, be it intentionally or by accident. How long was John at college? Cant be like today where a Caliarts certificate is almost a must have.

He didn't go to CalArts. He went to Sheridan in Ontario, which wasn't that good of a school at the time. There were a couple other R&S people who went there as well and I don't think they ever finished. Bob Jaques was thrown out because of a trip he took to L.A. with John to meet Tex Avery. (No extra credit for meeting one of the greatest animators of all time, I guess!)

John, however, you can guess what kind of student he was. He didn't do the work and he never went to class.

While he was there, too, he was nicknamed "Jack." Not because of his name, but because of an incident where someone caught him masturbating in the window of his dorm and called the cops on him.