US Microsoft wants to move Windows fully to the cloud

Microsoft wants to move Windows fully to the cloud / A new Microsoft internal presentation reveals the company’s long-term goal for Windows.​

By Tom Warren, a senior editor covering Microsoft, PC gaming, console, and tech. He founded WinRumors, a site dedicated to Microsoft news, before joining The Verge in 2012.
Jun 27, 2023, 12:58 PM GMT+2

Microsoft has been increasingly moving Windows to the cloud on the commercial side with Windows 365, but the software giant also wants to do the same for consumers. In an internal “state of the business” Microsoft presentation from June 2022, Microsoft discuses building on “Windows 365 to enable a full Windows operating system streamed from the cloud to any device.”

The presentation has been revealed as part of the ongoing FTC v. Microsoft hearing, as it includes Microsoft’s overall gaming strategy and how that relates to other parts of the company’s businesses. Moving “Windows 11 increasingly to the cloud” is identified as a long-term opportunity in Microsoft’s “Modern Life” consumer space, including using “the power of the cloud and client to enable improved AI-powered services and full roaming of people’s digital experience.”

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Microsoft’s state of the business from June 2022. Image: Microsoft

Windows 365 is a service that streams a full version of Windows to devices. So far, it’s been limited to just commercial customers, but Microsoft has been deeply integrating it into Windows 11 already. A future update will include Windows 365 Boot, which will enable Windows 11 devices to log directly in to a Cloud PC instance at boot instead of the local version of Windows. Windows 365 Switch is also built into Windows 11 to integrate Cloud PCs into the Task View (virtual desktops) feature.

The idea of moving Windows fully to the cloud for consumers is also presented alongside Microsoft’s need to invest in custom silicon partnerships. Microsoft has been doing some of this for its ARM-powered Surface Pro X devices. Bloomberg also reported in late 2020 that Microsoft was looking at designing its own ARM-based processors for servers and maybe even Surface devices. More recently we’ve heard Microsoft could be working on its own AI chips, too.

In another slide in the presentation, Microsoft mentions the need to “shore up Windows commercial value and respond to Chromebook threat” for its “Modern Work” priorities in its 2022 financial year. Long term opportunities on the commercial side include growing the usage of cloud PCs with Windows 365.

Microsoft has recently announced Windows Copilot, an AI-powered assistant for Windows 11. Windows Copilot sits at the side of Windows 11, and can summarize content you’re viewing in apps, rewrite it, or even explain it. Microsoft is currently testing this internally and promised to release it to testers in June before rolling it out more broadly to Windows 11 users.

Windows Copilot is part of a broader AI push for Windows. Microsoft is also working with AMD and Intel to enable more Windows features on next-gen CPUs. Intel and Microsoft have even hinted at Windows 12 in recent months, and Windows chief Panos Panay claimed at CES earlier this year that “AI is going to reinvent how you do everything on Windows.” All of this is part of Microsoft’s broad Windows ambition, detailed in its internal presentation, “to enable improved AI-powered services” in Windows.

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Hell even just staying with 10, it works at this point. I hate this always online world. First video games now this. FML
i'd rather avoid 10 if I can since it's also bloated with spyware and cortana and shitty UI and general shittiness, but seeing as I'm running that right now I'll probably stick with it until service is discontinued
There's no way in hell I'm ever moving to 11, that's for sure

Colour me surprised (not).

I wouldn’t be surprised if the goal is for your OS to be/part of a subscription service.
don't SAY THAT
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i'd rather avoid 10 if I can since it's also bloated with spyware and cortana and shitty UI and general shittiness, but seeing as I'm running that right now I'll probably stick with it until service is discontinued
There's no way in hell I'm ever moving to 11, that's for sure


don't SAY THAT
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I'm kind of stuck with 11 on my laptop, keep important shit on flash drives, but I guess I'm just used to 10. I just keep cortana off on both. Also I'm sorry, but you and I both know that subscription based OS's are coming. I'm sorry bro. I'm crying too lol
 
maybe at best 1% of home users would ever bother to crack windows. I could see M$ though finally cracking down on piracy and make it way harder to do in this economy.
Microsoft still hosts the source code for MAS and similar tools on GitHub so I don't think they care about consumers pirating their shitty OS anymore. They probably earn way more money selling ads to people and locking them into bullshit cloud offerings so at this point Windows might as well be free for home users.
 
>Year of the Linux Desktop is coming
You should have listened.
i think you mean "year of pirating unlocked/uncloudified windows"

i need to do regular computer things with regular computer programs. i don't have enough autism juice in me to figure out how to do every single thing i do on the computer with OSS that has UIs designed by blind monkeys or aliens or whoever makes that garbage
 
Colour me surprised (not).

I wouldn’t be surprised if the goal is for your OS to be/part of a subscription service.
Indeed. Also what will happen if let's say you get banned from Xbox Live after the AI monitoring the text and audio chat detected that you said "Trans women are not women", will they also stop you from using every Microsoft-owned product too?
 
Well, I, for one, am looking forward to returning to the period of my life where I was intensely paranoid about Microsoft forcibly updating me to a shittier OS and spent hours a week furiously researching the content of every new update they rolled out to see which I had to disable through registry edits in order to keep my fucked-up Win7 install intact. Linux would absolutely be easier, but it's the principle of the thing.

I really like that instead of generally hardening our computerized infrastructure against cyberattacks or blackouts or whatever, we've decided to make consumer-grade electronics 1000x more fragile by making everything dependent on severs thousands of miles away. This cloud stuff is absolutely going to shit the bed at the worst possible moment and intensify a disaster. I guess this is why the US nuclear weapons system was still using floppy disks until 2019.
 
Fucks sake. All these programs run through browsers are rubbish. Microsoft project has a tantrum and fucks the files up if you work in a local copy then try to put it in the network or vice Versa. The browser versions don’t even have full functionality.
( And already, over 90% of the highly educated people I work for dont know you can open in app rather than browser. )
How are you supposed to work on stuff offline? Or is that the idea? Always connected, always watched?
 
How are you supposed to work on stuff offline? Or is that the idea? Always connected, always watched?
Yes. It's about control. They, like Google, will know every thing about you, and if you show any form of dissent, you will be locked out of your services and pretty much paralised. If a satellite goes offline, it'll take multiple businesses out with it and entire states will grind to a halt. The government will be forced to divert more and more money to maintain the networks, until they're basically shell organisations that collect taxes and divert them straight to Google and Microsoft.
 
Sounds like its about time to quit being lazy and fully move over to 'nix, soon. I just wish it didn't suck ass on my laptops, because I like my shiny pretty lights and keyboard... It makes it easier to type in the dark, and I like my KTM orange battlemode color. My lights match the plastics on my quad, because any grown man knows you color coordinate such things.

Right now, just lie back, light a smoke, and remember the good old days of playing on your dad's shitty Windows Vista Lenovo shitbox.
I still get nostalgic for DOS & Windows 3.11. I miss my old Win2k beast of a desktop more than certain dead relatives, and I'd sacrifice certain living relatives to get my old Amiga back.
 
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Moving “Windows 11 increasingly to the cloud” is identified as a long-term opportunity in Microsoft’s “Modern Life” consumer space, including using “the power of the cloud and client to enable improved AI-powered services and full roaming of people’s digital experience.”

That is all I need to hear. I want this shit as far away from me as humanly possible.
 
“shore up Windows commercial value and respond to Chromebook threat”
By making an even shittier chromebook? google is already letting local app install, even linux apps to be installed on cOS because they saw the limitations of browser-only apps.

Now you want to make the OS itself in the cloud, its insane.
Windows Copilot sits at the side of Windows 11, and can summarize content you’re viewing in apps, rewrite it, or even explain it.
Why yes I love an AI running in some sketchy servers seeing everything I do on every single app, that's great!

Not.
Intel and Microsoft have even hinted at Windows 12 in recent months
Isn't it 10 supported until 2025 or something? is 11 gonna get trashed faster just like 8?
every technological advances since 1995 has been terrible.
Nah, broadband fucking rules, web over phone lines sucked ass.
they started pushing business users to use Office and Teams in their browsers.
Really? how?
they'll force you via OEMs
This is the worst part, I blame apple for starting this "custom silicon" bullshit that marries hardware to whatever OS its made to run.
>Year of the Linux Desktop is coming
You should have listened.
If there was a moment for canonical to get its shit together and make ubuntu decent again its now, them or sys76 or fedora any other big linux distro maker.

But they wont, microsoft literally sent genderblob employees to rekt the linux community apart and get Linus himself ousted, literally Machiavellian.
even posters here
See all the people bitching about TOR, bet they used their main email address too.
At least those of us on LTSC have between 4 and 6 years to prepare for a post-Windows 10 world
I thought LTSC got the same support? like 2025 or so, what does your install say?
maybe at best 1% of home users would ever bother to crack windows
Depends on the country, I been to places where even billboards running on windows had the "activate windows" watermark on the corner, dudes didn't give a fuck.
maybe downgrading back to XP or 7 isn't such a bad idea after all
I took an old Win7 PC out of storage recently and you wouldn't believe the amount of programs that plain refused to run on it.

Legacy support my ass.
Hell even just staying with 10, it works at this point. I hate this always online world. First video games now this. FML
At least game streaming didn't catch on, Stadia and all the other startups are dead and buried, nobody I know is paying for geforcenow.

They do sell those shitty "gaming" chromebooks tho I don't know who is falling for that.
I'm kind of stuck with 11 on my laptop
There are scripts to take all the telemetry and spyware out, but you have to do it after every update because msft will sneakily reenable some of those.
at this point Windows might as well be free for home users.
It wont, those greedy shits wont even update you to 11 for free like from 7/8 to 10.
That's because upgrading is expensive, same reason why banks still run on old COBOL mainframes, and the gov needs that money for more golden toilets.
 
I thought LTSC got the same support? like 2025 or so, what does your install say?
Mainstream Windows 10 22H2 finishes 2025. LTSC 2019 (based on 1809) is good until 2029 and LTSC 2021 (based on 21H2) is lasts until 2027 for the normal version, 2032 for IoT (which is functionally identical).
 
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