Military Plane discussion thread - Let’s talk Fighter/Attacker planes.

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I am extremely biased towards ground attack planes and always have been. Would have loved to see a Warthog BRRRT. We never had to call in fixed wing, but it was always comforting to know that we had helos overhead when we required them. Not just for direct engagement either. Their surveillance capabilities were crucial on night ops when we used them. Got to watch some nighttime Super Cobra guns runs too :like:
 
now this is german drug-fueled monstrosities thread
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Cedric_Eff said:
Too bad Boeing couldn’t get their act together back then tho. If they had their demonstrator fully completed, they might’ve had a chance.

Also added the A-7 on the poll, just for you!
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The deciding factor for DoD was the VTOL gimmick. Also, allegedly the Chinks compromised Boeing's servers and got access to the X-32s technical data too IIRC.

On an unrelated note Sukhoi designs the best looking modern fighter aircraft. Change my mind.
 
The Tomcat is a Vietnam vet since it was used to escort planes fleeing from the fall of Saigon, thus making it a 3rd gen fighter (along with lacking FBW and having systems so complex it required a backseater to do more than just work the radar)

I've started so many fights in San Diego and Kingsville with that line
 
I'm a booster for one of the most underappreciated in it's role planes of WWII: the P-39 Airacobra. Here's a plane that didn't get the Army Air Corps contract over the Mustang because it was lacking in the doctrine they wanted which was long range, high altitude escort and interception so they pawned it off on the British and same thing they needed bomber escorts so they pawned those off to the Soviets who absolutely adored it seeing as that most of the airfields they'd be taking off from were relatively close to the fighting distance wasn't an issue and Germany was big on dive so high altitude fighting also wasn't a big deal in fact if you look at the ten highest kill confirmed Soviet aces half were done in the P-39 and another fun fact the last plane shot down by the Germans before surrendering and the last German plane shot down by were both P-39's.
 
BScCollateral said:
I am not an expert, but I will always have great affection for the B-58.
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I got to go inside the one at Pima Air and Space last year. It's a very neat plane even when it's mostly gutted. One of those beautiful late 50s planes that looks like it's going 1800 knots when its just sitting on the ground

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Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities

The mach 2 Convair B-58 HUSTLER was the vanguard of low-level bombing techniques used in later aircraft. This old film, salvaged from antiquainted 2" studio ...
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It also sounds just like the F-14 when it flies overhead, which is neat
 
The Mig 21 had the highest KDR. Murican thread, murican planes, lul.

But damnit American planes are pretty sexy.


My favourite plane in relative terms is this one tho:

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Focke Wulf Ta 152


A beast of a plane, the fastest combat prop plane of the era (produced in any numbers) with additional speed possible through methanol injection and a second boost of nitro injection.
Armed with a 30 MM Cannon and a 20 MM Cannon it could shred bombers and tanks. Superb in every way, cheaper to produce than the jet fighters and really the thing that might have saved German industry and slowed down the war for at least 6 months had it been introduced earlier.


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The red color was used for a special early flyaway over heavy german flack, painted red so they would know it was a german pilot and not a new allied aircraft.
 
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The F-16 is far to overlooked. Such a versatile and agile aircraft that can be used in a number of roles. M61A1 Vulcan, 10 hardpoints (2 on the wingtips, 6 under the wings, 3 under the fuselage) and a maximum load of 77 hundred kilograms. It comes in single and two seat variants, and also can be configured with numerous different software and avionics. The US even made a completely unmanned prototype, and are considering introducing a full unmanned drone F-16. We are getting closer to Ace Combat 7 than you think.
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Why can't Illyushin make a jet attack aircraft that doesn't look retarded?
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ZooSmell said:
The F-16 is far to overlooked. Such a versatile and agile aircraft that can be used in a number of roles. M61A1 Vulcan, 10 hardpoints (2 on the wingtips, 6 under the wings, 3 under the fuselage) and a maximum load of 77 hundred kilograms. It comes in single and two seat variants, and also can be configured with numerous different software and avionics. The US even made a completely unmanned prototype, and are considering introducing a full unmanned drone F-16. We are getting closer to Ace Combat 7 than you think.
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The F-5 is way more underappreciated, at least the F-16 had extensive export sales.
 
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