mind still = semi-blown at the fact that having kids is legal

Dr. Boe Jangles Esq. said:
Don't try to whip your dick out here, friendo. I'd be willing to bet I make your annual income in about a month and a half. And after work, I do indeed enjoy the odd round of Overwatch, so I guess I'd say I'm doing just fine on both fronts, thanks much.
You know, this is getting sad, let's just go ahead and drop the pretense:
See, the thing here is that this is entirely about you. Nobody is here because they see this thread as worth a serious discussion. Not me, not @AnOminous, not the other posters, not the lurkers. Go ahead, ask them, see if they're super invested in the actual topic as opposed to the poster, I'll wait.
See, this isn't r/incel, this is Kiwi Farms. And what we have here is some weird little fuck who wandered in and pitched a fit because "BABIES ARE IMMORAL BECAUSE PAIN, GUIZ!!!". So, being Kiwi Farms, we pop in and poke the little spastic, because he might do something funny.
You're tossing up a bunch of bold red text, getting all defensive and spouting this crazy shit, and that's the point.
Sorry, braheim, but if this thread seems like it's just focused on you personally, that's mostly because it is.
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"Don't try to whip your dick out here, friendo. I'd be willing to bet I make your annual income in about a month and a half. And after work, I do indeed enjoy the odd round of Overwatch, so I guess I'd say I'm doing just fine on both fronts, thanks much."
Cool, I'm glad.
"See, the thing here is that this is entirely about you. Nobody is here because they see this thread as worth a serious discussion."
It's not, I haven't been arguing about me, I've been arguing about birth.
"See, this isn't r/incel, this is Kiwi Farms."
Does anybody actually go there? Seems like 5 dudes with 100 alts each posting the same shit over and over.
"And what we have here is some weird little fuck who wandered in and pitched a fit because "BABIES ARE IMMORAL BECAUSE PAIN, GUIZ!!!". So, being Kiwi Farms, we pop in and poke the little spastic, because he might do something funny."
You just threw around some insults and see yourself as some grand torturer, lol just lol.
"Sorry, braheim, but if this thread seems like it's just focused on you personally, that's mostly because it is."
I just want this thread to fade now. It got ruined by legit coping mechanisms.
 
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Jason Genova said:
I don't know bro, you just keep slinging insults and trying to make this about ME, instead of what I'm saying.
"I'm not insulting you bro I'm just shaming you because you're fucking dumb and I know better than you lol."
I don't care about being called names by some fucking bored dudes on a forum who make fun of people with disabilities (meanwhile many of them are still playing videogames in their 20s, just lol).
By most people's definition of "morality" giving birth has to logically be immoral because:
1. Being born basically guarantees that you will be experiencing suffering.
2. People's actions cause you to be born.
3. People could prevent all of the suffering that you will experience in your life by not having you.
4. Everyone is well aware of how they could act to prevent birth from occurring.
5. They choose to have children anyway, despite being aware on some level that these things are true.

We decide that other crimes are immoral the same way that birth could be considered immoral.
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I'd say that you have a good point. Indeed, if suffering is inevitable, then why is life even a thing? However, your viewpoint leads to human extinction. From a purely biological point of view, you are utterly wrong and your way of doing things damns our entire species.
 
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Lorento said:
I'd say that you have a good point. Indeed, if suffering is inevitable, then why is life even a thing? However, your viewpoint leads to human extinction. From a purely biological point of view, you are utterly wrong and your way of doing things damns our entire species.
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Well, that is kind of the point of antinatalism.
 
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Jason Genova said:
"Don't try to whip your dick out here, friendo. I'd be willing to bet I make your annual income in about a month and a half. And after work, I do indeed enjoy the odd round of Overwatch, so I guess I'd say I'm doing just fine on both fronts, thanks much."
Cool, I'm glad.
"See, the thing here is that this is entirely about you. Nobody is here because they see this thread as worth a serious discussion."
It's not, I haven't been arguing about me, I've been arguing about birth.
"See, this isn't r/incel, this is Kiwi Farms."
Does anybody actually go there? Seems like 5 dudes with 100 alts each posting the same shit over and over.
"And what we have here is some weird little fuck who wandered in and pitched a fit because "BABIES ARE IMMORAL BECAUSE PAIN, GUIZ!!!". So, being Kiwi Farms, we pop in and poke the little spastic, because he might do something funny."
You just threw around some insults and see yourself as some grand torturer, lol just lol.
"Sorry, braheim, but if this thread seems like it's just focused on you personally, that's mostly because it is."
I just want this thread to fade now. It got ruined by legit coping mechanisms.
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Awww, now he's all grumpy.
Learn to quote, stop using "cope" like it's a thing adults say, make better threads, try not to get all huffy when people laugh at your silly ideas.
And tell us a little more about you, while we're at it. What got you into this theory?
 
AnOminous said:
You've been here over two months now. Learn how to quote.
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no
also what's with the utilitarian shit bro?
Dr. Boe Jangles Esq. said:
Awww, now he's all grumpy.
Learn to quote, stop using "cope" like it's a thing adults say, make better threads, try not to get all huffy when people laugh at your silly ideas.
And tell us a little more about you, while we're at it. What got you into this theory?
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RA's youtube vid, he deleted it because he doesn't agree with it anymore (coping), but it had good refutations of the "arguments" made against antinatalism.
 
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Jason Genova said:
no
also what's with the utilitarian shit bro?

RA's youtube vid, he deleted it because he doesn't agree with it anymore (coping), but it had good refutations of the "arguments" made against antinatalism.
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I have no idea who RA is, but I have never seen anything remotely insightful in the form of a youtube video.
Try books. Or making the point yourself without having to lean on the works of others.
 
Dr. Boe Jangles Esq. said:
I have no idea who RA is, but I have never seen anything remotely insightful in the form of a youtube video.
Try books. Or making the point yourself without having to lean on the works of others.
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RA = rebel absurdity, the guy I mentioned in my first post
"I have never seen anything remotely insightful in the form of a youtube video"
Probably because you watch vinesauce and h3h3 and other stuff with no informative value.
"Try books."
It doesn't matter where information comes from, fully understanding it does.
Some books are ok, many (especially dealing with philosophy) are filled with confusing metaphors and have entire pages worth of content that will be forgotten after finishing the book.
"Or making the point yourself without having to lean on the works of others."
His video inspired my ideas, just like the vast majority of ideas come from outside inspiration.
Neither science nor philosophy could advance without leaning on the works of others to a degree.
There is no such thing as an independent human being, we all require other humans and organisms to survive.
 
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Jason Genova said:
RA = rebel absurdity, the guy I mentioned in my first post
"I have never seen anything remotely insightful in the form of a youtube video"
Probably because you watch vinesauce and h3h3 and other stuff with no informative value.
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Again, never heard of 'em.
I like animation, comedy, and this one nature dude who talks about animals. Also, there's a few neat science shows.
Jason Genova said:
"Try books."
It doesn't matter where information comes from, fully understanding it does.
Some books are ok, many (especially dealing with philosophy) are filled with confusing metaphors and have entire pages worth of content that will be forgotten after finishing the book.
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Ahhh ok.
So you're stupid.
Jason Genova said:
Neither science nor philosophy could advance without leaning on the works of others to a degree.
There is no such thing as an independent human being, we all require other humans and organisms to survive.
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And yet you deny the idea of community or common good.

You can't just pick and choose.
Also, learn to quote. This is just getting kinda sad. If you can't even figure that out, why would we even start to listen to you?
 
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AnOminous said:
Okay then expect to get treated like a fucking tard.
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my bffs already do that, no adjustment needed
Dr. Boe Jangles Esq. said:
Again, never heard of 'em.
I like animation, comedy, and this one nature dude who talks about animals. Also, there's a few neat science shows.

Ahhh ok.
So you're stupid.

And yet you deny the idea of community or common good.

You can't just pick and choose.
Also, learn to quote. This is just getting kinda sad. If you can't even figure that out, why would we even start to listen to you?
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"Ahhh ok.
So you're stupid."
More meaningless name-calling, save the energy in your fingers please.
"And yet you deny the idea of community or common good."
Society is a spook, just like morality, race, mathematics, etc.
So yes, most people can choose to care about some mental concepts (math, logic, morality, etc.) while disregarding ones they find less useful (race, nationality, etc.)

Saying "you can't pick and choose" only applies to some situations.
If I say "the entire bible is true" I can't pick and choose which I want to talk about and live by.
If I say "parts of the bible are true" I can pick and choose as I want.

I never said "all mental concepts are useless", if I did I would have to stop using math in any capacity at all to not contradict myself.

"Also, learn to quote. This is just getting kinda sad. If you can't even figure that out, why would we even start to listen to you"
My ability to do that has no effect on my argument.
I can strict military press 270, if you can't strict military press 270 why should I listen to you bro?
 
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Jason Genova said:
my bffs already do that, no adjustment needed

"Ahhh ok.
So you're stupid."
More meaningless name-calling, save the energy in your fingers please.
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No, I'm quite serious. You can't figure out how to quote, just said that books are too confusing for you, and have struggled with a clear line of thought since the thread started.
Have you considered that thinking may not be your thing?
Jason Genova said:
"And yet you deny the idea of community or common good."
Society is a spook, just like morality, race, mathematics, etc.
So yes, most people can choose to care about some mental concepts (math, logic, morality, etc.) while disregarding ones they find less useful (race, nationality, etc.)

Saying "you can't pick and choose" only applies to some situations.
If I say "the entire bible is true" I can't pick and choose which I want to talk about and live by.
If I say "parts of the bible are true" I can pick and choose as I want.

I never said "all mental concepts are useless", if I did I would have to stop using math in any capacity at all to not contradict myself.
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I think it's more that you've preemptively drawn the conclusion that having children is immoral (again, I suspect more for reason of personal issues than rational thought) and now you're just scrambling to find rationale that justifies this forgone conclusion.
In other words, you're drawing reason from a conclusion, not conclusions from reasoning.
Jason Genova said:
"Also, learn to quote. This is just getting kinda sad. If you can't even figure that out, why would we even start to listen to you"
My ability to do that has no effect on my argument.
I can strict military press 270, if you can't strict military press 270 why should I listen to you bro?
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My, how impressive.
I would like to see that. Post a video of you doing that while discussing antinatalism. We pinkie promise we won't dox you, and aren't working on doing so already.

And learn to quote. Also, generally you want to stop using the term "bffs" after about 14 or so, princess.
Just a tip. If you're one of those loveshy kids, a grown man saying "bffs" may be part of what's hurting your game. ;)
 
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