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Rumpled Foreskin

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directed by Fincher, so already you’re off to a great start. This show was actually recommended by @Broken Pussy and I cannot be more thankful. The cinematography is fucking phenomenal, the characters and their development is insanely good, and the story is amazing. So if you want to talk about it, this would be the thread. Season 2 is scheduled for early 2019.

This next spoiler is my personal screamfest after seeing the finale of the first season, so please don’t open it if you are just starting the show.
IS HOLDEN DEAD FROM A HEART ATTACK OR DID HE JUST HAVE A PANIC ATTACK?! FUCK!!
 
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Holden is totally alive, but he's going to get stockholm after his big scare and become super-best friends with Ed Kemper and sneak him in more pizzas and soda.
 
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The man the character is based on once had an attack of encephalitis that incapacitated and nearly killed him. It’s a little early in the time line for it to track closely with when it happened in real life, but I have a feeling that’s what it is.

If you ever watched Hannibal, Will Graham had encephalitis that made him damn near insane. That was inspired by the person Mindhunter is about.
 
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The thing they have been foreshadowing totaly not the BTK killer (the ADT serviceman) so who knows.
 
Getting glimpses of BTK before BTK gave me such a Gotham-esque feeling, like seeing Joker before the chemical spill. It's fantastic, makes me morbidly giddy.

The main character is annoying in the playing the straight man and new actor kind of way, but damn that casting is top notch. My only minor complaint is that the people I watched the first season with hated Holden's gf because her character was seemingly pointless and contrarian for contrarian's sake, and I wish they would have done more to her character, like made her a foil against Holden's slowly developing fucked up sexual tendencies from being around sexual serial killers. I felt it was a missed opportunity, but again, no major gripes.

I would kill to see Lee Wournos or Dahmer, but unless the show veers off the timeline, I don't think it's going to happen, at least not in the early seasons.
 
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First season was surprisingly good. The guy portraying Ed Kemper steals every scene he's in. Checking this out and I'll come back once I'm 3-4 episodes in.
 
Yeah, he captured Kemper somewhat well


This little video does some comparison from the real Kemper with his actor from the show
 
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audience: holden's boring relationship shit was awful. less of that, okay?
writers: okay. we hear you. instead, how about boring relationship shit -- but with lesbians!

I'm currently five episodes into season two. I'll probably finish it up tomorrow. It's still a good show but I think it's definitely a step-down from season one, largely because a lot of time is now spent on office politics while still also having a lot of the off-hours, personal drama. When it's dealing with the actual criminal and investigation stuff it's still just as good as S1.
 
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The opening and closing scenes of season 2 were genuinely awful and terrifying.

So Berkowitz, Manson, Paul Bateson, Wayne Henley, Tex Watson, the return of Ed Kemper, and introducing proto-black nerd Wayne Williams. Am I forgetting anyone? The guy who played Berkowitz was really good.

I wonder if they’ll do Green River/Bundy next season.
 
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I finished it today. The parts about the Atlanta murders were really good and probably could've been edited together into a very Zodiac-esque film. The interview segments are still good, too.

Then there's the personal drama. The stuff with Tench's family is at least somewhat interesting, though I think they still could've trimmed it down. Wendy Carr's relationship drama was just... boring, although I'm sure places like AVClub probably furiously masturbated over it and likely dedicated at least sections of their reviews to how "important" and progressive it all was (but I will admit that final scene of her relationship almost makes it worth it. "You're not some enlightened individual. You're a bartender who reads bus-stop magazines.")

Fincher has said he wants the show to go on for five seasons. I'm not really sure where they could go for three more seasons. BTK wasn't caught until 2005 and only really because he was an old man that didn't understand technology rather than because of any sort of brilliant profiling (which I think might largely be the point of including his scenes -- not only do they not catch him via profiling or any clever tricks but he also goes against a lot of their assumptions). Likewise, Gary Ridgway wasn't caught until 2001 and that arrest happened due to DNA they had collected from him more than a decade earlier.

I guess if they don't mind fictionalizing the FBI's involvement in cases they could do the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer, Richard Ramirez, and Henry Lee Lucas. Or, perhaps, they could go back to having them consult with local PDs about murder cases inspired by real ones, like the Beverly Jean case in the first season.
 
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I guess if they don't mind fictionalizing the FBI's involvement in cases they could do the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer, Richard Ramirez, and Henry Lee Lucas. Or, perhaps, they could go back to having them consult with local PDs about murder cases inspired by real ones, like the Beverly Jean case in the first season.
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My guest would be Larry Eyler being the long story killer next season. It fits the shows timeline, the FBI was heavily involved in the the real case, and they nailed the Eyler profile to a T. It just fits too well in the shows arc of going from "the basement" to legitimacy.

Plus, he killed a lot of people, so they can get a long story outta of it and I think Kemper might have even mentioned him in his interview in season 2.
 
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