Agreed, Fabric should've been it because it at least had a lot of promise. Not to mention the Forge dev was and still is holding Forge back because of his massive ego. Unfortunately a lot of people who went to Fabric are a bunch of attention addicted fuckwits who are willing to drag it down for their own ego, same shit different people. Then Quilt came into being because the Fabric devs didn't want political nonsense associated with their mod so a bunch of troons called it the usual buzzwords, thus Quilt was made as an "inclusive mod loader." At least Neoforge is just Forge but it has a future, most of the original Forge devs left because the creator's aforementioned ego and made Neoforge so there's a chance they'll be able to optimize it, maybe even make it compatible with Fabric mods.