US Mini-Super Tuesday discussion and results

352 Delegates Up for Grabs in Upcoming 'Mini Super Tuesday' Battle

Another sizeable portion of delegates, 352, is up for grabs as Joe Biden (D) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) prepare to face off.

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352 Delegates Up for Grabs in Upcoming 'Mini Super Tuesday' Battle

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Polls close Mississippi: 7pm CST/8pm EST, Missouri: 7pm CST/8pm EST, Michigan: 7pm CST/8pm EST (in four Michigan counties, polls will close at 8pm CST/9pm EST), Idaho: 8pm PST/10pm EST (in Idaho's nine northern counties, polls will close at 9pm PST/11pm EST), North Dakota: Poll hours vary by county, all polls will close by 9pm CST/ 10pm EST. Washington: 9pm CST/11pm EST

Joe "Joementum!" Biden

Tulsi Gabbard

Bernie Sanders

Biden, Tulsi and Sanders will take on each other in six states holding primary contests on March 10 in what has been dubbed “Mini Super Tuesday.”
Those states are:

• Idaho, 20 pledged delegates
• Michigan, 125 pledged delegates
• Mississippi, 36 pledged delegates
• North Dakota, 14 pledged delegates
• Missouri, 68 pledged delegates
• Washington, 89 pledged delegates
• Democrats Abroad, 21 pledged delegates

The six states offer a combined 373 pledged delegates.

The former vice president, who swept the South on Super Tuesday, leads in pledged delegate totals ahead of the March 10 primaries. He currently has 664 pledged delegates compared to Sanders’ 573. A nominee needs a majority, or 1,991, delegates going into the convention to win the nomination on the first ballot.

Michigan offers the greatest prize on Tuesday with 125 delegates up for grabs. A Detriot Free Press survey released on Monday showed Biden with a 24-point advantage over Vermont’s self-described socialist senator in the Great Lakes State.

Sanders held rallies in Michigan over the weekend in hopes of garnering support in the state he won in 2016, when he edged out Hillary Clinton by less than two percentage points — 49.8 percent to Clinton’s 48.3 percent.
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Make or break for Bernie if he can't compete against Biden at this point. Should be some interesting results with anger from at least one side being inevitable. I'm looking forward to seeing the race in Idaho and Washington.

My mini-super Tuesday picks

Spoiler

Idaho(Biden), Michigan (Biden), Mississippi(Biden), Missouri (Biden), North Dakota (Biden), Washington (Biden), Democrats Abroad (Biden)

Joementum in full swing!

Previous thread

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/super-tuesday-discussion-and-results.66913/

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

WA is also all vote-by-mail, and ballots started getting sent out to voters in February, before South Carolina and all the dropouts. So Warren, Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Bloomberg are all combined getting almost 1/3rd of the vote right now.

 

[TowinKarz]

I'm guessing the difference is because WA switched from a caucus (2016) to a primary (2020), so the difference is likely attributable to voter participation rather than voter enthusiasm if you understand the distinction.

Wonder if we'll be all-Primary by 2024?

Besides being a black eye for the tech-obsessed Silicon Valley element in the party, the disaster in Iowa kinda shed a lot of light on how convoluted and archaic and at times, plain old unfair (coin flips) the caucus procedure is. And for at least a decade and change, it hasn't even been indicative of who the final nominee will be, as a brief skim of the history shows it, more often than not, produces an opposition oddball who craters shortly thereafter, never to be heard from again on the campaign trail.

Here's a list of Iowa "winners" when it's not being run as an unopposed formality......

08' Mike Huckabee
12' Rick Santorum
16' Ted Cruz
20' Pete Buttigieg

You might as well throw darts.

Maybe real socialism was the friends we made along the way.

Nah, they promised free ice cream and gulags.

 

[Kornheiser]

WA is also all vote-by-mail, and ballots started getting sent out to voters in February, before South Carolina and all the dropouts. So Warren, Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Bloomberg are all combined getting almost 1/3rd of the vote right now.

So what’s taking so long to count?

 

[TFT-A9]

Proletarian vanguard getting smashed by a coalition of wine moms and old black church ladies. Extremely low energy

They really don't make revolutionaries like they used to, y'know?

 

[Spiteful Crow]

If it were up to me, you'd be in a death camp. IDC about your tax money, you're literally worthless as a human.

That's weird because it's exactly how I feel about you

 

[Disc]

I think we need to face the music. Bernie was never AS popular as he was made out to be. I don't think he had a better chance of beating the election than Biden - it's quite clear now that the base is weary of the constant #progressivism and leaning moderate. Bernie was just overhyped.

 

[Salubrious]

That feel when you can't even win 4th place in a 3 person race.

Dave Weigel on Twitter

“Tulsi Gabbard, the third candidate left in this race, is losing in every state to people who’ve dropped out. MO: 5th place MI: 6th MS: 5th ID: 7th WA: 7th ND: 7th She has not held a public campaign event in a primary state since March 3.”

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[kcbbq]

Well that's hilarious, because Bernie is actually the one who would be most likely to beat Trump.

Normies aren't going to vote for a commie, no matter what polls say. Especially considering people right of center tend to lie to pollsters and have for about 20 years.

 

[I can't imagine]

What the fuck we let the Deep Ones vote?

Supposedly, people live there. Granted, the population of humans in the Northern Mariana Islands is less than that of Dubuque, Iowa, so we aren't exactly talking about a lot of people.

 

[Absolutego]

Its actually not because of low voter turnout. The 2016 WA primary had 230,000 votes. Nearly a million votes have been cast so far (Biden & Bernie each have ~335k) and it'll likely cross a million by the time 100% is reporting.

I'm guessing the difference is because WA switched from a caucus (2016) to a primary (2020), so the difference is likely attributable to voter participation rather than voter enthusiasm if you understand the distinction.

Yeah I'm aware we swapped from a caucus (which has historically tiny turnout) to a primary this year, which is why I wanna see the results of a state with a roughly identical Democrat party to us like Oregon's numbers to get a better idea if enthusiasm is down or not in WA. Because 2016 was a caucus, we don't have a good baseline for primary turnout. Take Oregon's comparative delta, adjust for population differences, and you have your rough approximate of what a baseline 2016 WA primary would look like. See how large the 2020 drop is from that vs. Oregon, and start gauging how drunk you'd have to be to shitpost about them seriously being in play for Trump this year.

Of course if Oregon has a massive drop in primary enthusiasm because they're voting the weekend before Memorial Day this year, it's all a wash of a comparison and I'm mostly staring at a spreadsheet looking for answers. The fact that Bernie and Biden are in a dead heat now already has me doing that.

 

[TowinKarz]

There's a reason only kids and failed revolutionaries want communism, everyone else in this country knows voting for it means the end of everything they worked for by giving the same things they worked hard for to others for free, even if they are lazy, criminal or incompetent (at best) or seizing everything they own for redistribution at gunpoint (at worst).

All the Kommie Kids Klub people on campus that worship Bernie do so because they're still ignorant of how the world works and think that anyone NOT making a billion a year is on their side when it comes to the desire to murder the rich...

The idea that a guy with only $500 in the bank would FIGHT to hang on to it instead of throw it away for a chance to smash the system doesn't compute to them, because they have yet to really BE that guy who is having his only fruits of his labor threatened by people who have NOTHING and feel entitled to it. They don't have the life experience to understand why average Americans are extremely hostile to people coming for their money, no matter how "insignificant" or politically-tainted it is by being a product of the CAPITALIST SLAVE SYSTEM, i'ts THEIRS and they won't surrender it without a fight.

Taking wealth by force to pursue the greater good sounds great, when you are a broke-ass indebted college kid with nothing to lose. As soon as you get ANY tangible asset though, it starts to sound pretty unfair when you realize YOUR stuff counts as a sizable asset to the next generation of broke-asses.

 

[Spiteful Crow]

I think we need to face the music. Bernie was never AS popular as he was made out to be. I don't think he had a better chance of beating the election than Biden - it's quite clear now that the base is weary of the constant #progressivism and leaning moderate. Bernie was just overhyped.

Oh yeah. Not every independent weirdo has Cenk Uygur and The Young Turds shilling 24/7/365 along with an entire constellation of online pundits. Celebrities who wanted to buff up or establish working class connections couldn't pick a better guy. Meanwhile he was mild mannered enough that not everyone was offended by his radical rhetoric.

 

[Angry Shoes]

Well this just confirms a second Trump term. Cheers to the people who support him, you've earned it.

I think we need to face the music. Bernie was never AS popular as he was made out to be. I don't think he had a better chance of beating the election than Biden - it's quite clear now that the base is weary of the constant #progressivism and leaning moderate. Bernie was just overhyped.

The people who support Bernie really underestimated how much people disliked Clinton. He's lost counties and states he previously won because of this.

 

[Absolutego]

So what’s taking so long to count?

procrastinators always drag things out. If you had your ballot postmarked today it counts, gotta rifle through the piles of mail, in what I assume is hazmat gear, for a good portion of the western half of the state.

 

[babadook]

If Biden is winning on every state without even campaigning in a lot of them why doesn't this mean he will be a good opponent for Trump? What's the indicator that will be a stomp, voter turnout? What's the turnout in states that had the same voting process in 2016?

 

[He Who Points And Laughs]

So what’s taking so long to count?

Democrats can't handle basic arithmetic.

 

[Disc]

If Biden is winning on every state without even campaigning in a lot of them why doesn't this mean he will be a good opponent for Trump? What's the indicator that will be a stomp, voter turnout? What's the turnout in states that had the same voting process in 2016?

The biggest pro-trump indicator is his notably high primary results. That doesn't tend to be the case with incumbents, and suggests enthusiasm in the base.

With that said, participation's up across the board from what I've heard. Should be interesting to watch indeed...

 

[Garth]

He keeps twisting this dagger.

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[Richardface]

If Biden is winning on every state without even campaigning in a lot of them why doesn't this mean he will be a good opponent for Trump? What's the indicator that will be a stomp, voter turnout? What's the turnout in states that had the same voting process in 2016?

Because he wins with older democrats, and older people generally are vastly more Republican. Dems need young people to turn out to win at a presidential level as a general rule, though Biden seems strong with suburban wine moms which is a weak point for trump.

But I suspect most people's unwillingness to use these results to posit that Biden is a strong candidate in the general is that he's not faced a strong negative campaign yet, and he's a sundowning corrupt child-sniffing tool of credit card companies with a crackhead son he's been enabling for years

How Biden is performing now is not a good indication of how he will perform against an opponent willing to go for the jugular, unlike kindly milquetoast bourgeois sentimentalist Bernie

 

[Man of the Sea]

@Ashy the Angel I don't usually do this, but...

FUCK YOU I WAS RIGHT.