Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

[jipjap]

The whole point of the light phone is to detach yourself from the online world as much as possible. It's not meant to be used like a normal smartphone. It's basically a featurephone. Your friend needs corrective surgery to remove his head from his arse.

The issue is that the Jightphone needs an Internet connection in order to be useable. Even the ReMarkable, for all its dark patterns and xochitl bullshit, can be managed over ssh through a wired connection. Jight is trying really hard to make people rely on their cloud services. Social media I get, sure, but it forces you to only use mms when a lot of people are using other platforms/protocols to communicate with you at even the lowest-common denominator. You can't even see the images sent to you.

The whole premise that Jight is meant to detach you from technology because it's useless is such a farscicle cop-out. It doesn't enable you to rely less on two factor, email, all the other realistic practical applications which phones solve, etc. because Jight doesn't even provide an alternative which could liberate you from the normal smartphone paradigm. You are supposed to offload these tasks to other computers by design. The only exception is the maps application, which is honestly not bad, but it pales in comparison to osmand, because the latter can actually be used offline.

And the frustrating irony of this all is that, if Jight had a semi-free operating system, at least basically hackable, you could easily make a shitty telegram/email/ssh client that would make this a great, viable piece of hardware. But they won't free it, because then they can't sell you their cloud services that way.

And the irony of a phone that's supposed to make you 'unplug' with a non-replaceable battery and no splash resistance. It's pathetic, really. It speaks to how strongly people respond to branding regardless of reality. Why people think Apple products are secure when that couldn't be further than the truth. Because people want the same thing, just rebranded. But we recreate the same incentive structures over and over again expecting to get different results. If I go abroad, I can't use this damn phone. If I'm in area with little infrastructure, such as when I'm hiking, I can sure use the hell out of my lineageos pixel -- my only lifeline -- and which has a better radio, honestly, but certainly not the Jight. This thing is antithetical to that kind of lifestyle. It's made for latte-sipping urbanites that are so visa-pilled they don't even notice if the cafe they're at is cash-free.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The issue is that the Jightphone needs an Internet connection in order to be useable.

I honestly had no idea. That's some deceptive marketing for sure.

 

[Dewey Decimal]

Can't talk about anything here without some closet fag doomer sperging about trandos and other identity politics.

Pretty sure those are feds trying to lowkey groom more troons at this point since its the majority of the site sperging at any given time and it puts reddit to shame with how military grade hyper-fixated they are on "troons this, tranny that" and promoting autistic slapfights via politisperging instead of contributing constructively to alternatives to these dead or dying communities. Even Jewsh xerself is more obsessed with trannies than any leftist I have ever seen online.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

If this thread was a speech

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

The issue is that the Jightphone needs an Internet connection in order to be useable. Even the ReMarkable, for all its dark patterns and xochitl bullshit, can be managed over ssh through a wired connection

Yeah the Light Phone's internet requirement and the ReMarkable's subscription is why I'm not considering buying either of them.

 

[30+GameOvers]

You know what I hate? Updates. Fuck updates.
Case and point? I just updated NoScript to version 11.4.38 and it fucking broke on me. Thank goodness I found an older version, 11.4.29, but now all my filters are reset. If you're using that extension, I suggest not downloading an update for it.
Similarly, I dodged a bullet with Firefox as I am only on version 127. If I updated to 128, I would be exposed to a new built-in backdoor for advertisers.
Never fucking update anything, you're just asking for trouble unless you know exactly what the update is for. This is why any piece of software that does not let me disable updates or even asks me on startup if I want an update pisses me off, much like Firefox does(I don't know if there is a way to disable that).

This just happened AGAIN
I had my NoScript auto updated to 11.4.42. I have no idea how it happened, but if I can't disable auto updates, I will have to delete and reinstall every single time there is a new one.
This is such a fucking clown show. Anyone who argues against freedom of choice between updating or not deserves to have their legs amputated. When they ask "OW OW OWWW, WHY DID YOU CUT MY LEGS OFF?!", you tell them "Hey, relax! Your legs just got an update! Enjoy your new prosthetics!"

 

[Susie Sumner]

Youtube is just being ridiculous now, I had firefox open with a single tab of a stream and it was taking FOUR GIGABYTES of RAM, what the absolute fuck??? FreeTube can play the same video only using 400MBs.
I've read online that this is possibly because youtube just starts artificially taking more resources if it detects any adblock or userscript, I hope EU makes a case and fucks their asses sideways.
Unbelievable.

 

[dvorak]

gay corpo art for gay disease

 

[Agent of Misinformation]

Google is finally pulling the plug on uBlock Origin on their Chrome Extension Store.

https://archive.md/zTjX1

Here is Mutahar's summary of the situation. Google is getting very, very desperate.

 

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Google is finally pulling the plug on uBlock Origin on their Chrome Extension Store.
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https://archive.md/zTjX1

Here is Mutahar's summary of the situation. Google is getting very, very desperate.

I am not sure it's just time yet to get worried.

Although this is put into question now that the DOJ said they were going to attempt to split Google, fact remains that they benefit a lot from people using their browser. The amount of information they collect this way is insane.

I am not sure they benefit from driving these users away by taking away Ad blockers.

I honestly don't even really care that much. As long as there are alternative browsers, it makes absolutely no difference to me.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

They deserve to have their heads on a pike.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

I am not sure they benefit from driving these users away by taking away Ad blockers.

Ad blocker users are a tiny minority among all browser users and especially on Chrome which is the browser used by people who don't care about ads or privacy, oftentimes because they don't know any better. What's more, many of them won't know or care about the situation and they'll accept Google's claim that it's totally the developer's fault for "doing it wrong" and not Google's for quietly uprooting and pozzing the entire extension framework over YEARS just to break ad blockers. Finally I can guarantee you there is a non-empty subset of ad blocker users who will bitch about it for a while and then end up paying the exorbitant subscription fee for youtube premium or sucking it up altogether just so they don't have to switch to a different "non-brand-name" browser.

Google isn't really risking anything by doing this. The development cost has already been paid and no one can stop them from deploying this now. A few months after it's pushed into the Windows stable release no one in the silent majority will even remember that you used to be able to block ads in Chrome.

 

[Anakin Soywalker]

Ad blocker users are a tiny minority among all browser users and especially on Chrome which is the browser used by people who don't care about ads or privacy, oftentimes because they don't know any better. What's more, many of them won't know or care about the situation and they'll accept Google's claim that it's totally the developer's fault for "doing it wrong" and not Google's for quietly uprooting and pozzing the entire extension framework over YEARS just to break ad blockers. Finally I can guarantee you there is a non-empty subset of ad blocker users who will bitch about it for a while and then end up paying the exorbitant subscription fee for youtube premium or sucking it up altogether just so they don't have to switch to a different "non-brand-name" browser.

Google isn't really risking anything by doing this. The development cost has already been paid and no one can stop them from deploying this now. A few months after it's pushed into the Windows stable release no one in the silent majority will even remember that you used to be able to block ads in Chrome.

Google's password manager has me by the balls otherwise I would switch to Firefox or something.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

Google's password manager has me by the balls otherwise I would switch to Firefox or something.

Export the database (if they even let you do that) or invest an hour or two into doing it by hand. Audit your passwords everywhere while you're at it. Switch to KeePass or some other reputable open source password manager that's not bound to any browser because this is far from the last web-browser-centric shitstorm you will be experiencing in your lifetime. Then sleep peacefully at night.

 

[Null]

I do not see that warning myself.

Google's password manager has me by the balls otherwise I would switch to Firefox or something.

You can import your passwords to a different, 3rd party manager that works cross-platform and cross-browser.

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/passwords/#bitwarden

You should do this today.

 

[ParasiteSteve]

Google's password manager has me by the balls otherwise I would switch to Firefox or something.

Can you not export them? I know bitwarden accepts passwords in many different formats. At this point, I would happily copy pasta them over to get away from a single browser that is known to share your information. Not to mention, they are not great at sharing, so sometimes baddies get in through the exploits google leaves laying around.

 

[AnOminous]

Ad blocker users are a tiny minority among all browser users and especially on Chrome which is the browser used by people who don't care about ads or privacy, oftentimes because they don't know any better.

Yes but they're also the tiny minority whose relatives all ask them to do computer shit for them. All I have to do is recommend something other than Chrome and a dozen people switch the next time I'm installing stuff for them. ESPECIALLY if it's because some malicious ad fucked their shit up, which seems to be about half the time.

 

[moocow]

It'll be interesting over the next few years to see whether standalone, for-profit (or even non-profit) entities emerge that will run PiHole or similar ad blocking proxies for customers to route their stuff through. "Pay us $5 a month, plug in these browser settings, and we'll take care of all the ads." There's fuck all any browser maker can do about that (apart from the usual -- label the company naht-sees, alt-right, etc. to debank them, fuck with their infrastructure, etc.).

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

Yes but they're also the tiny minority whose relatives all ask them to do computer shit for them. All I have to do is recommend something other than Chrome and a dozen people switch the next time I'm installing stuff for them. ESPECIALLY if it's because some malicious ad fucked their shit up, which seems to be about half the time.

That must be nice. My experience doing this shit is that switching away means enduring weeks of "Why is my internet gone? Yeah the green thing with the dot in the middle, it looks like a dishwasher tablet. I want it back, I need the internet to check my email right now!"

I hope Google fucking burns in hell and all that of course, I just don't think any of this is going to hit them back in any meaningful way. They've gotten away with much worse shit.

 

[Anakin Soywalker]

I do not see that warning myself.


You can import your passwords to a different, 3rd party manager that works cross-platform and cross-browser.

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/passwords/#bitwarden

You should do this today.

Didn't know that, I'll do it asap. Thanks dear feeder