Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

[CEO of Autism]

How good is AdNauseum in addendum to other ad-blockers like uBlock Origin?

You either pick one or the other. AdNauseum can't do its thing if uBO blocks the ads first.

 

[Civillian 18]

How good is AdNauseum in addendum to other ad-blockers like uBlock Origin?

AdNauseum is just uBlock with the added functionality of sending fake engagement to the ad as well as hiding it.

AdNauseam - Clicking Ads So You Don't Have To

A browser extension that clicks on every blocked ad to fight advertising surveillance.

adnauseam.io

As online advertising becomes ever more ubiquitous and unsanctioned, AdNauseam works to complete the cycle by automating ad clicks universally and blindly on behalf of its users. Built atop uBlock Origin, AdNauseam quietly clicks on every blocked ad, registering a visit on ad networks' databases. As the collected data gathered shows an omnivorous click-stream, user tracking, targeting and surveillance become futile. Read more about AdNauseam in this paper.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

>be me
>search a question
>almost all of the "results" are not what is searched for
>only real result is from Quora (because of course it's Quora)
>go to Quora
>there's an AI-generated "answer" from an "Assistant"
>most of the real answer is blurred out
>"Access this answer and support the author as a Quora+ subscriber"

FFS

 

[Orphaned Punk]

All the cool people on the Internet who rarely post, be it Fl1ppy, Pro-Surf's EZPZ, or RuningShine, only exist to do one thing and then leave the next. Now Fl1ppy is just doom posting about Saints Row and Skate which he seems to like being shitter shattered. All the cool kids fucked off to do normal shit or are getting fucking banned, cheesed, or culled.

No one makes anything I fucking like or want.
I have become so picky and unsatiated that I will personally see to it that I make the shit I want and waste countless hours to do what I want because fucking cool niggers are snuffed, pimped, raped, and compromised by advertisers.

FAGGOT NIGGERS.

 

[Hellwalker]

All the cool people on the Internet who rarely post, be it Fl1ppy, Pro-Surf's EZPZ, or RuningShine, only exist to do one thing and then leave the next. Now Fl1ppy is just doom posting about Saints Row and Skate which he seems to like being shitter shattered. All the cool kids fucked off to do normal shit or are getting fucking banned, cheesed, or culled.

No one makes anything I fucking like or want.
I have become so picky and unsatiated that I will personally see to it that I make the shit I want and waste countless hours to do what I want because fucking cool niggers are snuffed, pimped, raped, and compromised by advertisers.

FAGGOT NIGGERS.

No matter what he does, I'll still love FL1PPY, .

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

>be me
>search a question
>almost all of the "results" are not what is searched for
>only real result is from Quora (because of course it's Quora)
>go to Quora
>there's an AI-generated "answer" from an "Assistant"
>most of the real answer is blurred out
>"Access this answer and support the author as a Quora+ subscriber"

FFS

Get Bypass Paywalls Clean. It works fine for Quora. BPC is basically mandatory for trying to restore elements of the 2000s web experience to the modern web.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

trying to restore elements of the 2000s web experience to the modern web

the Chad '00s internet

• websites work well without JavaScript and JS off is like built-in ad block
• less centralized corporate websites with censorious "Community Guidelines"
• no obsession with "assistants" displaying AI-generated "answers"
• artists who post art online usually do so for free: no "Patreon"
• websites usually work on any browser... not just "Google Chrome"
• less censorship, less "social engineering", and no "woke" BS
• no "send verification code" via "text message" or email BS
• no endless "frontends" needed for a less crappy experience
• no fixation of flat corporate graphics and rounded corners
• no "Pinterest" or "Quora" dominating search results
• no endless browser plugin needed to bypass BS
• no "prove that you are human" "Cloudflare" BS
• no non-functional "sign in with Google" BS
• easier to download (and preserve) stuff
• little or no "mobile versions" of sites
• websites are not trying to be "apps"
• search engines usually work
• no "partially paywalled" BS
• far less "paywalls" anyways
• little or no "social media"

It's amazing just how much the Current Year Clown World internet honknet sucks. Can you imagine how bad the 'net could get by 2050 if the pace of enshittification continues?

 

[Fig Kommandant]

• websites usually work on any browser... not just Google Chrome

This one isn't quite true, each browser had their own customized stuff and websites had to implement the same feature for multiple browser engines, see the pic:

Nowadays, besides Blink (Chrome and its forks), the only two other browser engines are Gecko (Firefox) and Webkit (Safari). But that's largely due to web standard growing way out of proportions. If you check the HTML 2.0 standard from 1995, it was 75 pages long and could be implemented by any programmer who put his mind to it. Compare with the current revision from yesterday, it's 1500 pages long and on top of that you have to add CSS, JS and whatever else. I'm not a fan that Google are the ones responsible for the major web engine, but I think it's naive to think web standardization (through Chrome's hegemony) is bad for web experiences.
What I fear the most is that we'll just keep adding onto the pile instead of getting a proper technology. Web browsers are increasingly becoming a mini OS by randomly adding features, then revising them a decade later when they present a security issue or they stop being supported (like Flash).

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I think it's naive to think web standardization (through Chrome's hegemony) is bad for web experiences.

It's still BS that if I try to use a website without "Google Chrome", it can be more or less nonfunctional (not every site though -- KF works fine). For example, the Wayback Machine on archive.org used to work without JavaScript, but now JS is needed and if you try to access it on Firefox, you get a "Fail with status: 498" BS error message and so you gotta manually change the URL to see the year you want. I guess that on "Google Chrome", it works just fine. But I don't want to have to download and use the BS browser.

 

[Fig Kommandant]

For example, the Wayback Machine on archive.org: used to work without JavaScript, but now JS needed annd if you try to access it on Firefox, you get this "Fail with status: 498" error message and you gotta manually change the URL to see the year you want. I guess that on "Google Chrome", it works just fine. But I don't want to have to download and use the crappy browser.

Those issues really go to the scale of the HTML, CSS and JS standards. Remember that a company as large as Microsoft decided they didn't want to deal with any of that. They just used the Blink engine for Edge, instead of updating IExplorer. It's simply too complicated to implement a new browser from scratch. Casey Muratori has a pretty interesting presentation about the same problem from the OS side, but it's the same for browsers. We just keep adding features and never sunset anything so it's harder to innovate and instead people just have to add to the pile, the current pile is just Chrome.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

We just keep adding features and never sunset anything so it's harder to innovate and instead people just have to add to the pile, the current pile is just Chrome.

That's why I like plain HTML sites, like from around 2000. One doesn't need to know any programming languages to write one. Hopefully plain HTML doesn't go out anytime soon.

 

[Fig Kommandant]

Hopefully plain HTML doesn't go out anytime soon.

Outside of legacy stuff like the Spacejam website, I wouldn't expect it. We don't use websites to consult information, we use it as an interactive platform and HTML isn't enough for that. Even for presenting stuff, HTML has been given a backseat and CSS is the language used as to how to present stuff, HTML is merely what's being presented. JS, PHP and others are the interactive part that we'll never get rid of.

 

[888Flux]

little or no "mobile versions" of sites

because people actually sat down at a computer with a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to use the capital I internet back then

speaking of which i am TRYING TO FUCKING POST THE VIDEO, BUT YOUTUBE SAYS IT IS AGE RESTRICTED AND YT-DLP DOESN'T FUCKING WORK, HURR DURR. fuck this gay earth i fucking swear man

 

[ToroidalBoat]

because people actually sat down at a computer with a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to use the capital I internet

I still usually do that to this day. Cannot stand surfing on "smartphone", and "mobile versions" of sites always seem less functional.

Typing on a smartphone or tablet. The autocorrect. The selecting of text it considers "wrong" when you're just trying to select a place before the "wrong" word. The "giving up" when you're trying to select a block of text. The endless mistakes. How the hell do smartphone addicts tolerate that potentially enraging nonsense?

 

[Nuclear Poisoning]

Where can I find older versions of Firefox?

 

[Popper Vowel Race]

Where can I find older versions of Firefox?

All known Firefox versions are stored on the Mozilla FTP service, with the section located here. I will assume that you know if you want Nightly Firefox, candidates, or main releases. If you didn't understand some or any parts of that, you probably want the main releases.

If you want the Android versions, this is stored on the "fenix" section of the public-end FTP service, and can be found here.

 

[Nuclear Poisoning]

All known Firefox versions are stored on the Mozilla FTP service, with the section located here. I will assume that you know if you want Nightly Firefox, candidates, or main releases. If you didn't any part of that, you probably want the main releases.

If you want the Android versions, this is stored on the "fenix" section of the public-end FTP service, and can be found here.

Thanks.

Wanted to revert to the last non-pozzed version. Is 127.0.2 the most appropriate?

 

[Popper Vowel Race]

Thanks.

Wanted to revert to the last non-pozzed version. Is 127.0.2 the most appropriate?

A lot of Firefox changes have been considered "pozzed" over the years. If you are talking about the fairly recent copyright and privacy policy changes, then any ESR version will work, as well as anything before the controversy in March, so anything before version 136.

If you are looking to get rid of a specific feature, you will need to manually find when that feature was added. If you only have the date of addition, look at the Firefox version history, located here, which lists all applicable dates alongside the version and details of changes.

It's up to you if you are talking about aesthetics.

 

[Nuclear Poisoning]

A lot of Firefox changes have been considered "pozzed" over the years. If you are talking about the fairly recent copyright and privacy policy changes, then any ESR version will work, as well as anything before the controversy in March, so anything before version 136.

If you are looking to get rid of a specific feature, you will need to manually find when that feature was added. If you only have the date of addition, look at the Firefox version history, located here, which lists all applicable dates alongside the version and details of changes.

It's up to you if you are talking about aesthetics.

I've seen it mentioned several times that version 128 introduced untransparent telemetry or something, which I can't seem to find in the version history. Unless it's Privacy Preserving Attribution, but that seems to be toggable.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Another new annoyance: popup messages that blur the page.

I can't seem to find in the version history.

Can one even find anything online, that is not "normie"?