Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

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ToroidalBoat said:
Can you image how crammed full of "apps" a "smartphone" could get if one downloaded every single "app" which one is pushed to get? One for any and each "smart" appliance, a number of "apps" for all these different stores and restaurants and all these different sites...

There should not be "smart" appliances that need a "smartphone" to control in the first place, and any "app" to a site or place should just be the website, if there should even be "smartphones" in the first place. Also I think such a bullshit situation could get worse.
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"Nah bro you don't understand, I NEED the McDonald's app!!! öÖö"
 

Dave covers the whole discord id/face scan thing. He's prettt reasonable about the whole thing. But more importantly he says something in this that is so refreshing to hear someone saying when they aren't 100% disagreeing with an id policy like this.

It's about the comparison between showing your id to buy alcohol or something like that irl, and giving a scan of your id to your platforms. And how Fundamentally different those two things are.

He says something along the lines of "when i walk into a bar and have to show id some person is just looking over it quickly to confirm it, or now days they don't even have to ask for id they can tell I'm old enough". It's easy to see the difference between that, and online platforms asking for a scan of either your face or ID. And even when they say "in most cases we delete documents right away" always notice how loosely the wording is on these things. In discords TOS for this stuff. It actually says they don't have to delete your id, and they can hold it indefinitely.
 
I live in constant fear that Jewgle will make YouTube unusable on Brave. Yesterday videos suddenly wouldn’t play and I thought this was it, but clearing the browser cache fixed the problem.
 
Agares said:
I live in constant fear that Jewgle will make YouTube unusable on Brave. Yesterday videos suddenly wouldn’t play and I thought this was it, but clearing the browser cache fixed the problem.
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Eh, they do that from time to time. It usually lasts a week or less, and after that, you're fine again. You may have to switch browsers for YT from time to time. I switch from Firefox to Chrome when issues on FF start occurring (which are mostly solved by reloading the current video page), and switch back when issues on Chrome start occurring, but for most of the time, there are no issues at all.

Not gonna watch those ads, no saar.
 
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this is sooooo cuuuuuuuursed uggggggg.
 
Increasingly getting tired of people that really should know better voicing anti-anonymity opinions. I cannot begin to describe how much this is blackpilling me. From my place of work to my online circle, it seems more and more that online anonymity isn't even an afterthought, it's a hurdle to be overcome (i.e. we need to defeat bots, engineering and thinking about solutions is difficult so let's have everyone self-dox instead).

Very MATI today.
 
mango_reseller said:
Increasingly getting tired of people that really should know better voicing anti-anonymity opinions. I cannot begin to describe how much this is blackpilling me. From my place of work to my online circle, it seems more and more that online anonymity isn't even an afterthought, it's a hurdle to be overcome (i.e. we need to defeat bots, engineering and thinking about solutions is difficult so let's have everyone self-dox instead).

Very MATI today.
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Every time I've shown concern over privacy on the internet to my IRL friends and family I've been met with "you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide" or "they wouldn't care about me I'm too uninteresting." The average normie will happily sign up for social media using their full legal name, they don't care that they're losing their anonymity because they'll gladly give it away on their own.
 
Squawking Macaw said:
Every time I've shown concern over privacy on the internet to my IRL friends and family I've been met with "you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide" or "they wouldn't care about me I'm too uninteresting." The average normie will happily sign up for social media using their full legal name, they don't care that they're losing their anonymity because they'll gladly give it away on their own.
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I wish I was talking about normies
 
Squawking Macaw said:
Every time I've shown concern over privacy on the internet to my IRL friends and family I've been met with "you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide" or "they wouldn't care about me I'm too uninteresting." The average normie will happily sign up for social media using their full legal name, they don't care that they're losing their anonymity because they'll gladly give it away on their own.
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I wonder why all the normies I know end up getting their bank accounts compromised, and other bullshit stolen. Meanwhile I've literally never had that happen.

I hate people. It makes you just want to stop caring.
 
As the Internet became part of real life, and not a separate space, a thing outside of it; it began to change.

That isn't necessarily a detrimental development on its own, it has its advantages and conveniences. However, it is an ever-corrupting presence on the former space. The response from the former, as far as I know, was to form enclaves; this forum is, in a sense, one of them. While this has been a successful endeavor, for the most part, corruption is continuously on the move. In recent years, governments and government-controlled entities have been pushing aggressively to remodel what Internet is and how it functions. Their sights might not yet be fully on these enclaves; nevertheless, their actions impact them.

Forced to make a general statement: most people here care very little about the "real life" part of the Internet. You access it mostly from a necessity of everyday life, or for the dumb entertainment. This place, or places like this are the Internet for you and me. Though I do find that a mournful thought.

The Internet is roughly 57 years old. We might be aware of the direction it's taking, or rather, it's being pushed, but what do you think it will look like in 57 years? What will become of enclaves like this?
 
mango_reseller said:
Increasingly getting tired of people that really should know better voicing anti-anonymity opinions. I cannot begin to describe how much this is blackpilling me. From my place of work to my online circle, it seems more and more that online anonymity isn't even an afterthought, it's a hurdle to be overcome (i.e. we need to defeat bots, engineering and thinking about solutions is difficult so let's have everyone self-dox instead).

Very MATI today.
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Just wait until quantum computing gets to the point where it can break today's encryption. There will be quantum encryption, but that's going to be for governments and big banks, not for you to encrypt your downloads or shit posts.
 
Never Scored said:
There will be quantum encryption, but that's going to be for governments and big banks, not for you to encrypt your downloads or shit posts.
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There already is publically available and proofed quantum encryption algorithms thankfully. But yes, your older communications? The ones your government stored encrypted in perpetuity? Those are all getting decrypted in the future.
 
mango_reseller said:
There already is publically available and proofed quantum encryption algorithms thankfully. But yes, your older communications? The ones your government stored encrypted in perpetuity? Those are all getting decrypted in the future.
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I've read 10 years is a realistic timetable for quantum computing to reach the point it can break current encryption methods. Encrypted data is already being harvested with the expectation it can be cracked in a few years, as you say, this can include things like government records like you said, but also things like people's passwords which many do not change often.

That's more at the enterprise/corporate level stuff, though. I was thinking much smaller scale stuff. Do you think it'd be realistic for a site like, say, Kiwi Farms to implement quantum resistant encryption? I wonder if it will be as simple as getting a certificate for TLS encryption is today or if it will be more complex. I believe this site even had trouble finding an authority willing to issue a certificate at one point. I realize it is possible to self sign a certificate currently, but at that point your website may as well not exist. I wonder if it's going to be possible for small independent sites that corporate and government entities don't approve of such as this one and piracy sites to operate and remain secure.
 
Never Scored said:
Do you think it'd be realistic for a site like, say, Kiwi Farms to implement quantum resistant encryption? I wonder if it will be as simple as getting a certificate for TLS encryption is today or if it will be more complex.
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Yes, ML-KEM (de-facto new diffie hellman) and ML-DSA (de-facto new RSA) are already out there and experiments are ongoing. I see no reason why they won't be able to be adapted in due time, it's just math anyways.
Never Scored said:
I believe this site even had trouble finding an authority willing to issue a certificate at one point.
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This is a completely different issue altogether and doesn't have much to do with post-quantum crypto.
Never Scored said:
I wonder if it's going to be possible for small independent sites that corporate and government entities don't approve of such as this one and piracy sites to operate and remain secure.
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I would consider it a much greater threat to KF that evolutions in DDoS attacks take it down, than it not being able to keep up with modern/post-quantum cryptography, as modern crypto is built around the idea of making everything public to the largest degree possible. This is a non-issue in my opinion, the larger issue is exactly this:
Never Scored said:
I've read 10 years is a realistic timetable for quantum computing to reach the point it can break current encryption methods. Encrypted data is already being harvested with the expectation it can be cracked in a few years, as you say, this can include things like government records like you said, but also things like people's passwords which many do not change often.
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which you hit the nail on the head imo. Also medical records.
 
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