Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

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Wikipedia
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I found wikiwikiweb today by accident. If there's someone else like me, who had no idea it existed, I do recommend checking it out.
I really like the way it displays articles, if only you could drag them around, scroll them independently, and the links connected them in both directions...
 
Zeftax said:
I found wikiwikiweb today by accident. If there's someone else like me, who had no idea it existed, I do recommend checking it out.
I really like the way it displays articles, if only you could drag them around, scroll them independently, and the links connected them in both directions...
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What articles do you recommend?
 
If a new encyclopaedia were to be created, it would have to copy some of the content from Wikipedia, like images and diagrams, to avoid too much duplication of effort, while still having a large coverage of different topics. The text of the articles would have to be totally rewritten.

wikiwikiweb.de is a MoinMoin site. The software is in the middle of releasing their second release which changes a lot of things. It seems like it's a hobby project for the developers, so it will get done when they have the time; very slowly. MoniMoni can support some of the markdown that Wikipedia uses, but it also has it's own markdown language and some of the Media Wiki stuff isn't identically supported. There would need to be a pipeline where you could fork a Wikipedia article to start, then replace the text, and copy over photographs and other media. MoniMoni would need to be modified to support this work flow

This effects more than just wiki sites, but it's a big issue with Wikis. The main way that content is discovered though a website is by site search. Large search engines censor small websites. If people find your site, then they will usually only find content though site search, especially if it's an info site like a wiki. By default Media Wiki's search is very bad. There are ways to add external search systems, like you have another process running that serves an API that does all the search requests, and then the pages are indexed into this other process' search index. Wikipedia uses ElastiSearch for this so search queries have spell check and "here are similar results to your query with no results". Otherwise, all you get is a grep on the titles of the articles by default.

Most wiki software really is archaic by modern standards. Media Wiki requires the database to be manually setup before using the site; it can't just create the tables it needs on the fly on first use. Many options require a lot of manual administration. Most wiki software does not support good site search, and they are not designed to randomly fork other wikis page by page as you like. Media Wiki has forking abilities, but they are not very flexible from what I know, and you still have the problems of setting up search and other manual administrations. By manual administration, I mean you have to edit the preferences PHP file yourself to block random edits and get anything resembling CMS, like you'd have for a news site with multiple writers. The file is auto generated on startup, and you'd have to have a customised and tested one handy if you just wanted the settings pre-loaded into your Docker Container when the server is launched by Kubernetes or something. Basically, there is a lot of technical debt given the changes in how sites are used and expected to be administered. Media Wiki has not kept up with these changes because their only user is Wikipedia, and they don't care about having an army of mindless autistic bug people who love doing repetitive grut work tasks that normal people need automated because they can't spend all day trying to fix this one setting, while also having a job and other responsibility. I would like to see a completely new wiki software be written.
 
i hate how tiktok and to a lesser extent vine made all videos into this meme.
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for example this video. the woman did not need to show herself in this video at all. it adds nothing at all.
 
Neodanthril said:
for example this video. the woman did not need to show herself in this video at all. it adds nothing at all.
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This is a very bad example for what you are trying to point out. The object in this video is an audible one: what the men are saying. She wanted to tell the world what she thinks about it, and facial gestures are a quick and easy way to go about it. Anything else would have posed an unnecessary distraction to the viewers.
 
Neodanthril said:
my point exactly. who cares what facial expressions this woman is making. it does not elevate the material. i dont need to see what she thinks about it to understand it is sexual innuedendo.
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You're totally missing the point. The object is audible, and her video is not a documentary but a reaction. She just chose to express her opinion in a purely visual way instead of talking over the narrators.

Thus, she did nothing wrong, and you happened to choose the worst example possible to make your point—literally one that completely contradicts it.
 
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Probably not specifically relevant to this thread but fucking hell: Modern internet socializing. I've blogged to a bunch of friends the past few weeks and every time I open the chat, nothing. They're either set to invisible or go on/offline throughout the day. Not a single reply. I genuinely consider nuking my friends list and living in isolation cause this ain't it dawg.
Neodanthril said:
for example this video. the woman did not need to show herself in this video at all. it adds nothing at all.
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And the audio is always someone else's. Then again dudes do it too: Add themselves in at the end laughing. Cause uh.. It's that kind of situation where you just genuinely fucking ponder what made them do that. It seems natural to them, surely, but if you sit down and go "Why did you add 4 seconds of you to this chain of videos?".
 
Bookmarks. A number of websites have the same URLs but change the domain names because of mirrors and alternative front ends. The only thing that makes the old URL and bookmark not work is the wrong domain name. It would be great to be able to do a find and replace over all bookmarks to update the domain names, but this feature does not exist in web browsers, all of whom have not caught up with this trend.
 
I have noticed that a lot of websites started asking me to allow WebGL the past few days. Even basically "text-only" sites.
 
Ever notice how people have seemingly scripted conversations even though they are not actually scripted? This can be in videos or in forums. The conversation are not actually scripted, they just feel scripted because the ideas come from the same pop culture slop.

Noticing it more and more.
 
I wonder how much of vibecoding is behind this especially with regards to inattentive 'system administrators' (business analysts nowadays) allowing this to be pushed to the production server? Websites are going to start getting lots of 'features'. I suspicous those 'features' will just be another attack vector and not useable enhancements.

On September 15, 2025, malicious versions of multiple popular packages were published to npm. They contained a post-install script that harvested sensitive data and exfiltrated it to attacker-created public GitHub repos named Shai-Hulud. Beyond data theft, the malware exhibits worm-like behaviour: when a compromised package encounters additional npm tokens in its environment, it will automatically publish malicious versions of any packages it can access - spreading across the npm ecosystem. Wiz Research assesses this campaign is directly downstream of the late-August 2025 s1ngularity/Nx compromise (initial GitHub token theft to npm token theft to mass package poisoning). As the first successful self-propagating attack in the npm ecosystem, this appears to be one of the most severe JavaScript supply-chain attacks observed to date.
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https://www.wiz.io/blog/shai-hulud-npm-supply-chain-attack

If they ever get a fast, efficient and usable LLM for coding on desktop PC's without internet access, every PC will be a C&C root node.
 
Zeftax said:
I have noticed that a lot of websites started asking me to allow WebGL the past few days. Even basically "text-only" sites.
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It's some new thing on firefox based browsers. Go to settings and search for webgl, I ended disabling webgl just to avoid the annoyance and thus far no site is broken for me yet, so I recommend doing that. Alternatively you can also hide the popup if you decide to leave webgl active.
 
stares at error messages said:
Ever notice how people have seemingly scripted conversations even though they are not actually scripted? This can be in videos or in forums. The conversation are not actually scripted, they just feel scripted because the ideas come from the same pop culture slop.

Noticing it more and more.
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Well, think of all those innocent m-dashes, and how everyone now tends to call anything containing them “AI slop.”

CEO of Autism said:
It's some new thing on firefox based browsers. Go to settings and search for webgl, I ended disabling webgl just to avoid the annoyance and thus far no site is broken for me yet, so I recommend doing that. Alternatively you can also hide the popup if you decide to leave webgl active.
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As a a regular Firefox user, I haven't noticed anything like that. I would assume, Zeftax' PC may be infected.
 
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