Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

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There is definitely a fear of freedom in Europe that, ironically, will lead to its demise once again.
 
Curry Teafag said:
To be fair, they do not want to comply with EU law because it is very pro-consumer and protects our civil rights against very large online platforms and not just government entities
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Aside that it falls apart when you consider the people who ostensibly uphold the laws are literally retarded Globalists and Jeets.

mango_reseller said:
At the same time, the EU wants to assert control over what its citizens consume and drive the narrative, in a way that the US, either due to confidence, or due to it having a leader role in the opinion-shaping ecosystem, or whatever, simply does not. I am worried that the US will eventually come for anonymity and VPNs, but as long as most of the US population (and the world population) uses Meta, Apple, Google etc, it doesn't "have" to attack VPNs (under the CLOUD act, the US can just request any US company for any data for anyone outside the US using US services no harm no foul).
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They don't need to attack VPNs because all of the Big Tech that have made themselves mandatory for Internet use will do it for you.

Just not being able to use Youtube without offering your personal ID and/or driver's license ALONE changes everything.
 
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Do Not Touch Me Pls said:
Just not being able to use Youtube without offering your personal ID and/or driver's license ALONE changes everything.
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Surely you understand the nuance of just not using YouTube versus being forced by the government to upload your ID to be able to use the Internet at all.
Thankfully, for the latter, the 1A most likely protects everyone in the US.
 
mango_reseller said:
Surely you understand the nuance of just not using YouTube versus being forced by the government to upload your ID to be able to use the Internet at all.
Thankfully, for the latter, the 1A most likely protects everyone in the US.
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Yes, I understand the ramification.

But just even one social media giant requiring you to submit your personal ID to use it alone is more than enough to be catastrophic and chances are it's likely not just one, but all of them by that point. It's also much easier to do and effectively bypasses law on any local level.

And this is likely what Globalhomo is going for.
 
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Do Not Touch Me Pls said:
But just even one social media giant requiring you to submit your personal ID to use it alone is more than enough to be catastrophic and chances are it's likely not just one, but all of them by that point. It's also much easier to do and effectively bypasses law on any local level.
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I do not believe that social media wants to also handle your IDs themselves. It opens them up to litigation when they eventually get hacked. They would really like to have your ID information, of course, because they can serve you more targetted ads, but they would rather someone else be responsible for providing and storing it (i.e. the OS in this case).

But then, it's not clear to me that needing to submit an ID (effectively) to use an OS is legal in the US. We'll see what happens. I'm currently worried about other proposals that I can't really discuss without instantly doxxing myself, but suffice it to say there's worse things that can happen.
 
What grinds my gears? Every damn place that you need to order food through seemed to require a login or app. A few local places let you order food as a guest. But those places now require you sign up to an app that will just leak your information due to shitty security.
 
GeorgeFloydFentanylStash said:
What grinds my gears? Every damn place that you need to order food through seemed to require a login or app. A few local places let you order food as a guest. But those places now require you sign up to an app that will just leak your information due to shitty security.
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I often grab a coffee from McDonald's when I am on the road. Over the past few months "Do you use the App?" FFS I am ordering a Coffee from the Golden Arches, does this activity really need to be tracked by corporate?

McDonald's prints money, why do they need all this bullshit?
 
mango_reseller said:
I do not believe that social media wants to also handle your IDs themselves.
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Once you hand your personal identification over to any of these sites your data is given over to a harvesting company. It doesn't really matter at this point if it's a dating website, online auctions, or social media, or anything else. "Big data" is there more for the surveillance state than any direct marketing. This lie of "they just want to advertise better products to you" still fools many people.
GeorgeFloydFentanylStash said:
What grinds my gears? Every damn place that you need to order food through seemed to require a login or app. A few local places let you order food as a guest. But those places now require you sign up to an app that will just leak your information due to shitty security.
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Because you are the product more than anything else being bought or sold. Your personal data is more important to them than being an anonymous customer. They will lose sales on anonymity because the priority is getting access to your personal identification. On the outside they might look like a restaurant or grocery store or gas station or movie streaming site but in reality they are a data harvesting company first and foremost.
 
There is an unimaginable amount of fraud coming from the 'global south' sometimes within the same borders of the country it is happening in from VPN's to importing the entire village of scammers by the 'anchors'. That's why the need to ID you some way and why there is a '15 minute timeout' or less, 3FA or whatever the future holds. As soon as the jeet resets your account he copies and pastes to another window to leak the information. These people hate you and will do everything to take anything they can from you no matter how small or insignificant. Deport, sink the boats mid-crossing and cut the undersea cables.
 
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HRT Heisenberg said:
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Recently in the past few months I am getting increasingly recommended videos with less than 30 views in a "ambient" or "fantasy" (I don't even listen to "fantasy") or whatever else is generic. The videos are always a one hour or longer playlists with droning generic instrumentals that are so forgettable that you literally cannot tell when the current song ends and the next one begins. You click on the channel and they are uploading a new "playlist" literally 4 times a week. Meanwhile actual playlist channels can go months without uploading because you know, they are human.
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I've seen that as well and it sends chills down my spine.

This thing, for instance. 750k views. Look at the "channel's" video listings, they're all the same, all released 3-4 days apart.

It doesn't say so explicitly, but I'm 99% sure this is AI generated slop. With that in mind look at the comment section for that video, it's disgusting.
 
Do Not Touch Me Pls said:
And this is likely what Globalhomo is going for.
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'90s internet: slow but "Wild West" and very decentralized and unique

'00s internet: fast and still "Wild West-y" but start of centralizing

in ClownWorld: almost all centralized... increasing "verification" BS

in DemonWorld: all centralized... need to provide ID to merely use it
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
'90s internet: slow but "Wild West" and very decentralized and unique

'00s internet: fast and still "Wild West-y" but start of centralizing

in ClownWorld: almost all centralized... increasing "verification" BS

in DemonWorld: all centralized... need to provide ID to merely use it
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Average people clued in that there's money to be made on the Internet and, with incredible luck, you can become retard rich. Which then led to ClownWorld and DemonWorld, because it's easier to work your hustle that way as you struggle with the ever deflating cash flow. In a hypothetical scenario where real ID authentification is mandatory for every web service, you could still run some decentralized, community organized stuff. Maybe even make a nice frontend for it. The problem is, are people actually going to use it or do they like being e-cattle and the "alternative" is going to be the future equivalent of Ham radio (talking about your hemorrhoids and the weather with 3 other oldfags)? It's the latter. Nobody gives a shit. Let me buy cheap shovelware online and scroll the timelineslop for trends that my friends are talking about, moo.
 
Kiwifarmsname said:
Will it get better?
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The Internet for normies always sucked. What has happened over the last 20 years is that you use the normie Internet more and more. Unless of course you're in a shithole that mandates you use digital ID to access any website (and even then, good luck w/ I2P etc).

The problem is that people now actually *want* to use the normie Internet, potentially because they wish to be able to influence discourse. This is a bad idea, because normies are always retarded and you will never be able to use them as well as the politicians who make a living out of it will.
 
mango_reseller said:
The problem is that people now actually *want* to use the normie Internet, potentially because they wish to be able to influence discourse. This is a bad idea, because normies are always retarded and you will never be able to use them as well as the politicians who make a living out of it will.
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The biggest problem with normies is that you can literally show the direct evidence of something, and they will accept it and agree with you, and then a few weeks later they've been brainwashed again by the Idiot Box TV/TikTok/iPlayer or whatever.

Late last year I was contacted by the UK Glowies to work for them. Other than the fact that they pay £10,000 a year less than what I currently earn, they want you to spend 9 months in the recruitment process. I would probably fail this process because they will suss me out within 10 minutes. I told the recruiter that I would not work for the Glowies under any circumstances, and when they enquired why, I informed them about all the scumbaggery and crimes they engage in, and I wanted no part in it. The week before, they were raiding journalists' houses, so I was particularly pissed off.

A relative of mine asked me why I didn't want to go through this process. I explained to her the process, and I said I didn't want to submit to a full background test because it is a PITA, and I don't want to be interviewed by a "spy". I also listed off all the crimes that these intelligence agencies have done against their own country. She had no idea about Snowden, the 5, 9 and 14 eyes and had no idea about the psyops the UK state has done against its own citizens (which tbf I would expect).

She swore up and down this was ridiculous. I looked at the security requirement, and it said "intelligence officer". While not technically a spy in the strictest sense, it isn't far off. I brought up the Snowden revelations and some of the psyops stuff and showed her it was true. I speak to her 2 weeks later. It is all forgotten.

What was most absurd about this was that she was reading Virginia Giuffre's book at the time, which I presume is about how she was sex trafficked by Epstein.
 
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