Monkeypox General 🐒🦠 - Authorities are calling it Monkeypox. The UK has begun a rapid deployment of Smallpox vaccines to first responders.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Predictive programming is here. If you thought the COVID measures were authoritarian you haven't seen shit yet

 

[God's drunkest driver]

If monkeypox turns out to be contagious enough that people who don't fuck men actually have to worry about it, is the monkeypox vaccine experimental, rushed, and highly oversold gene therapy? Or is it a conventional vaccine that made it through the typical long-term trials without the corner cutting and desparate PR spewing we saw with the covid vaccines? I read briefly something about old-school smallpox vaccines having protective value.

 

[George Lucas]

If monkeypox turns out to be contagious enough that people who don't fuck men actually have to worry about it, is the monkeypox vaccine experimental, rushed, and highly oversold gene therapy? Or is it a conventional vaccine that made it through the typical long-term trials without the corner cutting and desparate PR spewing we saw with the covid vaccines? I read briefly something about old-school smallpox vaccines having protective value.

It’s the smallpox vaccine.

 

[Lichen Bark]

If monkeypox turns out to be contagious enough that people who don't fuck men actually have to worry about it, is the monkeypox vaccine experimental, rushed, and highly oversold gene therapy? Or is it a conventional vaccine that made it through the typical long-term trials without the corner cutting and desparate PR spewing we saw with the covid vaccines? I read briefly something about old-school smallpox vaccines having protective value.

To the best of my initial searching into this subject DRYVAX was the oldest smallpox vaccine, and got a license in 1931, then comes ACAM2000 liscensed in 2015, then JYNNEOS in 2021. So seven years of data for ACAM2000 and not even a year of safety data for JYNNEOS, although I haven't deep dived into the trials for it at all. 40 years of data for DRYVAX, but they don't make it anymore.

ACAM2000 and JYNNEOS are not gene therapies. ACAM2000 is a replication-competent Vaccinia virus, and JYNNEOS is a replication deficient Vaccinia virus. So looks like they are live virus-type vaccines. Bonus fact: "Based on ACAM2000 clinical studies, myocarditis and/or pericarditis occur in 1 in 175 adults who get the vaccine for the first time. Because of the documented risk for myocarditis after receipt of both ACAM2000 and mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (12) and the unknown risk for myocarditis after JYNNEOS, persons might consider waiting 4 weeks after orthopoxvirus vaccination (either JYNNEOS or ACAM2000) before receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, particularly adolescent or young adult males."

Apparently you can also spread the virus vaccine from ACAM2000 to other people, and it can cause some serious adverse events depending on who gets exposed, I guess that's why they are trying to switch to this replication deficient JYNNEOS. Although sometimes these replication defficient viruses manage to regain replication ability.
CDC website

How does ACAM2000 work? It sounds pretty metal:

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-...am2000-smallpox-vaccine-questions-and-answers

Spoiler: Differences between DRYVAX and ACAM2000

 

[sperginity]

jikkyleaks posted something yesterday night about the sequencing of the current strain of monkeypox.

https://twitter.com/Jikkyleaks/status/1531466517657055232

https://archive.ph/TusED

they seem to be hunting for proof of their hypothesis that this was released by ukraine (or a ukraine ally like the USA) in order to blame russia. says the linked evidence shows that the virus was in serial passage experiments in order to enhance it. I hope one of you autists pours over the links, I can't generate the interest level needed to do it myself.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

And there's more than meet the eyes, not surprising to see that SOB Fraudci was involved in more ways than one.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/confirmed-fauci-funding-research-potential-monkeypox-cures-viral-disease-global-outbreak/

Dr. Tony Fauci and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) was funding research into potential monkeypox cures shortly before the global outbreak.

This news was reported earlier today at The National Pulse.:

Fauci’s agency, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), has previously come under scrutiny for funding bat coronavirus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which many public health experts and intelligence officials believe to be the source of COVID-19.
NIAID has also funded research into potential cures for monkeypox, shortly before the viral disease began spreading in a global outbreak. The curious timing of the NIAID grant comes amidst pharmaceutical giants including Pfizer and Johson & Johnson making record-level profits due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

[contradiction of terns]

Quarantining is discrimination/homophobia. REEEEE!
LGB Alliance ‘insults’ gay men with call to shut venues over monkeypox (archive)

Also... wut?

And even if you do catch it, you’ve got options for swift treatment. Monkeypox is related to smallpox and the same vaccines work against both. The CDC alone stockpiles more than 100 million doses of the pox vaccines.

Not only can the latest and best pox vaccine, Jynneos, prevent infection—it also works as a therapy after infection, Heymann pointed out. “It changes the virus.” The catch is, you have to take a dose within a few days of getting sick.

Monkeypox Is Spreading During Sex—and That Is Actually a Relief (archive)

 

[Fetish Roulette]

Quarantining is discrimination/homophobia. REEEEE!
LGB Alliance ‘insults’ gay men with call to shut venues over monkeypox (archive)

Also... wut?


Monkeypox Is Spreading During Sex—and That Is Actually a Relief (archive)

We're in the "go hug an Asian" phase of the next pandemic. Once they realize the chance to cement their emergency powers this presents, gay people will be kicked to the curb in the same way Asians were.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

I'm not going to put any stock into this unless this becomes like the 2003 outbreak.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

Predictive programming is here. If you thought the COVID measures were authoritarian you haven't seen shit yet

It's not clear what you're referring to - the article doesn't seem to reference to those sort of measures.

Here’s what you need to know.

Could monkeypox cause a lockdown?​

Hussain Abdeh, clinical director and superintendent pharmacist at Medicine Direct, said monkeypox is “definitely not another Covid, so people needn’t fear us becoming locked down in our homes”.
He added: “Monkeypox is better understood than Covid was at the start of the pandemic.”
The latest outbreak of monkeypox was first identified in the UK on 7 May, with the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) guidance recommending on 23 May that people who have had “unprotected direct contact or high-risk environmental contact” should self-isolate for three weeks.
However, unlike the Covid lockdown and self-isolation requirement, the monkeypox isolation guidance is advisory and not mandatory.
Mr Abdeh said that although the number of cases is still quite small for the UK, the daily cases are “an unusual and unprecedented high for this country”.
“When a virus breaks out like this, it is always a cause for concern, although not for panic,” he said.

Monkeypox is typically found in parts of west or central Africa and cases are usually rare in the UK.
“Monkeypox is outside of its usual home while in the UK, meaning it requires prolonged close contact between humans to keep thriving. Consequently, outbreaks of monkeypox are normally short-lived,” Mr Abdeh added.

Martin Michaelis, professor of molecular medicine at the University of Kent, echoed this, as he said that if “nothing unforeseen happens”, then it “seems unlikely that monkeypox will cause an outbreak at the scale of Covid-19”.
The professor explained that monkeypox does not spread as easily as Covid, as you can easily be infected by a person with Covid if you are in the same room as them for a short while without direct contact.
However, people tend to need to be in much closer contact for monkeypox to be transmitted, with the virus spread by touching someone with the infection, using the same bedding or by them directly sneezing or coughing at you, noted Prof Michaelis.

The symptoms of monkeypox are also “much more obvious and unambiguous and cannot be easily confused with a common cold like Covid-19,” said Prof Michaelis.
He added: “Monkeypox is usually also only infectious in patients who display symptoms.
“Hence, there is not this level of asymptomatic spread by people who do not know that they are infectious, which we are used to from Covid-19.”

 

[sperginity]

monkey pox update from robert malone. not great.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/monkey-pox-update?s=r

Monkey Pox Update - by Robert W Malone MD, MS

archived 31 May 2022 19:11:25 UTC

archive.is

the tl dr portion:

Those not versed in academic science talk may be shaking their head by this point, and probably getting ready to post a comment along the lines of “Why don’t you just tell us that this means in simple language?”
So, at the risk of oversimplification:

1. Looks like the Monkeypox outbreak comes from a single original virus source. Following the teachings of the “Multiple working hypothesis” model for arriving at scientific “truth” (which was a core part of my education as a young scientist), a) this could be (for example) a “natural” single jump event from some infected animal into a single human somewhere in the world (who presumably had some relationship to the Maspalomas Gay Pride event). Or b) it could have come from an intentional release of a viral isolate. Mixed news - could be good or bad
2. The authors have confirmed that this new outbreak virus maps to the "(less disease-causing) West African group (clade) of Monkeypox viruses. Good news
3. This single source virus could have come from West Africa or could have come from United Kingdom, Israel or Singapore (consistent with either hypothesis a or b). Mixed news - could be good or bad
4. Despite the sequences indicating that the virus is most closely related to those isolated in 2018-2019, it is significantly different. This could be due to natural evolution or due to laboratory engineering/gain of function “research” (consistent with hypotheses a) and b). Generally bad news. Basically, the authors are indicating that they believe that genome of this virus is either evolving more rapidly than one would expect from a double stranded DNA poxvirus, (left unsaid, or somebody has been messing around with it).
5. The authors speculate that the pattern of mutations are consistent with the effects of a natural cellular protein with the abbreviated name of APOBEC3. For those who want to dive into the molecular virology of APOBEC3, here is a nice 2015 J Immunology review. For those seeking the “Cliff Notes” abridged version, see Wikipedia. For the obsessives or aficionados, note that APOBEC3 is associated with specific pattern of base changes- (C→ U). On the basis of their hypothesis regarding the potential role for APOBEC3, I infer that the authors must have detected a statistically significant fraction of C→ U changes in the current isolates relative to the 2018-2019 isolates. Mixed news - could be good or bad. Still does not differentiate between hypothesis a) or hypothesis b).
6. Here is the rub. While APOBEC3 is associated with cellular resistance (yet another form of “innate immunity” - isn’t molecular virology and cell biology amazing!) to HIV (and presumably other retroviruses), a quick pubmed search reveals that Poxviruses are resistant to the mutational effects of APOBEC3! For example, see this 2006 paper published in “Virology”. Frankly, whether through lack of curiosity or fear of attack from government controlled media and journals, the failure of the authors to even mention this Virology article is a major oversight at best. My inference and interpretation? On the basis of this sequence analysis report from the INSA team cited above, to me this is looking more like a laboratory manipulated strain than a naturally evolved strain. Bad news.
7. Furthermore, this double stranded DNA virus, infections by which have historically been self-limiting, appears to be evolving (during the last few days!) to a form that is more readily transmitted from human to human. Bad news.

In conclusion, the preponderance of current evidence is pointing towards a hypothesis for the origin of this outbreak which is increasingly consistent with prior “war game” scenario planning, remarkably akin to that which occurred during Event 201, which posits emergence of an engineered Monkeypox virus into the human population during mid-May of 2022.
Draw your own conclusions, and do your own diligence.

 

[The Curmudgeon]

I don't know about you guys, but after two years of COVID drama I'm actually numb to this. God, Fate, or whatever has decided we'll endure another pandemic. Whoopty doo! What else is new?

 

[Behavioral Sink]

I don't know about you guys, but after two years of COVID drama I'm actually numb to this. God, Fate, or whatever has decided we'll endure another pandemic. Whoopty doo! What else is new?

Same. I feel like most of our ancestors used to live shorter, harder lives. We're just going back to that. Quality of life hasn't always been a straight linear progression through all of human history. It's like a roller coaster with loops. We're just on the backside of one of those loops, in the roller coaster arc of history.

I like to think of viruses as living organisms with their own ecology. It gives me peace of mind. Nature is doing nature, with much success. Who are humans to be above nature? People get diseases and die. It is what it is.

 

[sperginity]

I don't know about you guys, but after two years of COVID drama I'm actually numb to this. God, Fate, or whatever has decided we'll endure another pandemic. Whoopty doo! What else is new?

it looks increasingly like other human beings decided that we will endure another modified disease, for reasons that are likely political. There is nothing stopping it from happening over and over. all anyone needs to cook up this shit is a lab, some lab animals, and some staff (they don't need to be the best biologists, this isn't that complicated to achieve). the raw materials (viruses, bacteria) are widely available. using serial passage experiments only requires lab animals and time, which can make the pathogens deadlier than they ever would become naturally. we were lucky that covid was as mild as it was. we really could end up killing the entire species this way, because all it would really require is bad luck on the part of whoever is releasing the newest disease. these things are too complex to truly predict the end result.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I don't know about you guys, but after two years of COVID drama I'm actually numb to this. God, Fate, or whatever has decided we'll endure another pandemic. Whoopty doo! What else is new?

Now then you mention it, American Thinker posted this article wondering if monkeypox will replace Covid?

Will Monkeypox Replace COVID as the Next Great Democrat Scam?

As dire COVID warnings fade from public view, they are being replaced by a new health clarion call: monkeypox. Is this a real existential threat to life or is monkeypox the next Democrat (COVID) scam? The evidence on the COVID scam is incontrovert...

www.americanthinker.com

June 3, 2022

Will Monkeypox Replace COVID as the Next Great Democrat Scam?​

By Deane Waldman, M.D.

As dire COVID warnings fade from public view, they are being replaced by a new health clarion call: monkeypox. Is this a real existential threat to life or is monkeypox the next Democrat (COVID) scam?
The evidence on the COVID scam is incontrovertible. Biden Fauci, Birx, Walensky, the CDC, AMA, and NIH all lied to us. They perpetrated a Big Con using fabricated life-or-death medical threats to justify a massive power grab, when in fact, coronavirus was no more dangerous to most Americans than the seasonal flu.
Democrats usurped authority by nullifying the Bill of Rights. Using their COVID scam as cover, Democrats abrogated freedom of speech, censoring disputatious writings or speech and canceling the nay-sayers, often costing them their jobs. Democrat lockdowns suppressed the right to assemble, whether for work, play, prayer, or even school.
As Washington mandated ubiquitous masking, studies showed the measure didn’t work. Furthermore, evidence showed that masking can harm wearers by promoting infection, by generating anger and conflict, and hampering communication, especially in the classroom, between teacher and student.
And Biden’s promises that experimental mRNA gene therapy – the COVID ‘vaccination’ – would not be compulsory ended up being illusory. Unvaccinated people stayed healthy and developed natural immunity. Vaccinated (and boosted) individuals got sick and spread the disease. Democrats took away freedom, medical autonomy, and economic security, leaving Americans in more debt.

With COVID no longer viable as justification for Democrats’ pseudo-martial law, what could Democrats do to keep their ill-gotten, unconstitutional power? Create a new medical crisis: monkeypox is coming!
Monkeypox is not a novel or unknown virus. We had outbreaks in 1958, 1970, 2003, and 2018, but they received no press attention. However, there was no push from Democrats to hype a minor medical matter emanating from animals in Africa – 47 confirmed or likely cases in the U.S. in 2003 with no deaths – into an existential threat.
The monkeypox virus produces mild illness, and poses a low or very low risk of death to the general population. However, because monkeypox is in the same family, Poxviridae, as now-eradicated smallpox with its 30% mortality risk, Democrats might try to use monkeypox to create another “pandemic of fear” and resume their tyrannical, anti-scientific mandates.
Democrats may think the public is primed to accept whatever they say because that is what Americans did with COVID. Just as the legacy media was eager to promote the false COVID narrative to assuage their Democrat masters, they will no doubt be ready to do so again – they’ve already started.
But there is a big difference today.

Back in 2021, Americans still overwhelmingly trusted the Washington medical establishment – CDC, NIH, FDA, AMA – to tell us the truth and to offer reliable, evidence-based medical recommendations (not mandates, just advice). With an overall 56% approval rating in January 2021, Americans had faith in their newly elected president, Joe Biden.
Now, Americans no longer trust the “authorities” from Fauci and the CDC, to the president with his current 59% disapproval rating. Despite the censorship and partisan reporting of The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, Twitter, Google and Amazon, the medical truth gradually came out about Democrats’ Big COVID Lie and their unnecessary, harmful mandates.
Democrats, both elected and appointed, have taken Americans’ faith in federal officials and crushed it. Are we likely to believe in a new monkeypox threat? No. Do Democrats believe we are still gullible, still trust them, and are willing to accept more or resumed draconian mandates? Probably.

There are three possible reasons why Democrats might try to foment a new monkeypox scam. The most obvious is a repeat power grab or at least holding on to those powers they hijacked during the COVID scam.
A second reason could be political gain. Democrats need to divert attention from the numerous Biden policy failures, from the $6 per gallon for gas to a catastrophic Afghanistan pullout and even his Orwellian Disinformation Governance Board. In addition, Democrats might try to engage the “rally ‘round the flag” sentiment that follows a national crisis in order to minimize Republican success at the ballot box in November.

Most ominous is the possibility that Biden might use a new, fake health crisis to justify signing the World Health Organization’s proposed international pandemic treaty. One report suggests he is already doing so covertly! These amendments to the 2005 International Health Regulations would transfer American sovereignty to the WHO and authorize China-apologist WHO Director Tedros, a non-physician, to have complete control over medical care in the U.S. – and even Americans’ ability to travel. Imagine a WHO passport, not a U.S. one, required to get on a plane!
When reading monkeypox warnings or any other new Democrat scare tactic, Americans who expect the Constitution to protect their freedom should keep in mind the time-proven adage, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”

 

[A Welsh Cake]

I caught it guys help I’ve developed opposable thumbs and the concept of using tools I don’t like it.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

I caught it guys help I’ve developed opposable thumbs and the concept of using tools I don’t like it.

How does it feel, returning to monke?

 

[The Curmudgeon]

Will Monkeypox Replace COVID as the Next Great Democrat Scam?

As dire COVID warnings fade from public view, they are being replaced by a new health clarion call: monkeypox. Is this a real existential threat to life or is monkeypox the next Democrat (COVID) scam? The evidence on the COVID scam is incontrovert...

www.americanthinker.com

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Anyone dead yet?

 

[Thiletonomics]

A possible case of Monkeypox has been reported in Hawai'i.

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