Monkeypox General 🐒🦠 - Authorities are calling it Monkeypox. The UK has begun a rapid deployment of Smallpox vaccines to first responders.

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Strange that we don't have 'Members' pushing the faggotpox jab.
I think at one point there were 3 covid threads telling everyone: "It's fine, just GET THE VAX".

Now...crickets...

It's simple. You get COVID by breathing. If you breathe, it's a good idea to get a COVID vaccine. You get monkeypox by getting fucked up the ass. If you get fucked up the ass, it might be a good idea to get a monkeypox vaccine. Most people on the Farms don't get fucked up the ass, or don't post about it, so it's not really a fruitful area of discussion. We could have that discussion if you want. Do you get fucked up the ass? One partner or multiple? Do you know everybody or is it anonymous? Do you have HIV? These are all possible risk factors.

2) The vax didn't even work (2 shots, 4 'boosters' and Uncle Joe still got the coof)

Yes it did. Biden didn't get the virus targeted by the vaccine. That virus is basically extinct, and as far as we know, Biden never caught it. The vaccine worked, or nonpharmaceutical interventions worked, or he was just lucky. The original vaccines also reduce COVID-19 incidence, hospitalizations, and deaths due to more recent SARS-CoV-2 variants. A booster for the original vaccine seems to be effective against BA.5 for about 5-6 months. I think Biden got his second booster at the end of March and got COVID in late July. Given Biden's overall cadaverous health, it's impossible to say whether the vaccine had worn off completely or if the vaccine-mediated immune response kept him alive.
 
It's simple. You get COVID by breathing. If you breathe, it's a good idea to get a COVID vaccine. You get monkeypox by getting fucked up the ass. If you get fucked up the ass, it might be a good idea to get a monkeypox vaccine. Most people on the Farms don't get fucked up the ass, or don't post about it, so it's not really a fruitful area of discussion. We could have that discussion if you want. Do you get fucked up the ass? One partner or multiple? Do you know everybody or is it anonymous? Do you have HIV? These are all possible risk factors.



Yes it did. Biden didn't get the virus targeted by the vaccine. That virus is basically extinct, and as far as we know, Biden never caught it. The vaccine worked, or nonpharmaceutical interventions worked, or he was just lucky. The original vaccines also reduce COVID-19 incidence, hospitalizations, and deaths due to more recent SARS-CoV-2 variants. A booster for the original vaccine seems to be effective against BA.5 for about 5-6 months. I think Biden got his second booster at the end of March and got COVID in late July. Given Biden's overall cadaverous health, it's impossible to say whether the vaccine had worn off completely or if the vaccine-mediated immune response kept him alive.
It's impossible to say if I would or wouldn't have died if hadn't had that rock in my yard that keeps tigers away. It's true there were a few tigers in my yard, they didn't kill me however.
 
Basically the model shows that it doesn't spread if Monkeypox didn't affect males who have sex with males.

And just as importantly.. It wouldn't have spread world wide like this if it wasn't for them and their activities. And in the case this becomes globally endemic a/o endemic to humans... We know not just the score but who made the shot!
 
It's impossible to say if I would or wouldn't have died if hadn't had that rock in my yard that keeps tigers away. It's true there were a few tigers in my yard, they didn't kill me however.
For an individual yard and an individual rock, yes. Given millions of yards and tiger attacks, and a sound theory describing the interaction of yard rocks and tigers, you can draw some conclusions.
 
For an individual yard and an individual rock, yes. Given millions of yards and tiger attacks, and a sound theory describing the interaction of yard rocks and tigers, you can draw some conclusions.
In the era we are in now, Tigers aren't attacking people under 50 and only rarely those between 50-79, rocks or no rocks, and may even be sunning themselves on the rocks in some neighborhoods, so there's no need for those people to get rocks. I have seen the tiger data from official government sources, and it shows this

Tigers nearly always eat people over 80, because they can't run away.
Also, since the small pox vax only protects like 70% from monkey pox, it's also barely going to stunt the spread since the gays aren't willing to take a break from piss orgies for a month. It does go to show if you just resist then the government can't protect you for your own good. In some way their resistance is admirable, but also so much thirst is just going to earn them a new STD. They will mostly be fine, they can live with their own choices.
 

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In the era we are in now, Tigers aren't attacking people under 50 and only rarely those between 50-79, rocks or no rocks, and may even be sunning themselves on the rocks in some neighborhoods, so there's no need for those people to get rocks. I have seen the tiger data from official government sources, and it shows this

That may be true, but it's not dispositive. The claim was "the vax didn't even work." We know it has a significant effect in every age group. So the vax does work--unless there's some variable that protects vaccinated people and the vaccine itself doesn't do actually anything. Vaccinees are typically better educated and wealthier than anti-vaxers, which are correlated with better health outcomes. I can imagine wealthy, educated people will get more sick days to visit their doctor, have better health insurance, and generally make better decisions. But I think vaccination better explains the reduced morbidity and mortality among vaccinees. We understand how vaccines work and can easily quantify neutralizing antibodies. (Measuring cellular immunity is more difficult.) Vaccines work as designed is the simplest explanation for why vaccinated people don't get sick as often as unvaccinated people. We don't need to come up with complex theories about human behavior, risk aversion, etc.
 
That may be true, but it's not dispositive. The claim was "the vax didn't even work." We know it has a significant effect in every age group. So the vax does work--unless there's some variable that protects vaccinated people and the vaccine itself doesn't do actually anything. Vaccinees are typically better educated and wealthier than anti-vaxers, which are correlated with better health outcomes. I can imagine wealthy, educated people will get more sick days to visit their doctor, have better health insurance, and generally make better decisions. But I think vaccination better explains the reduced morbidity and mortality among vaccinees. We understand how vaccines work and can easily quantify neutralizing antibodies. (Measuring cellular immunity is more difficult.) Vaccines work as designed is the simplest explanation for why vaccinated people don't get sick as often as unvaccinated people. We don't need to come up with complex theories about human behavior, risk aversion, etc.
Vaccines as we knew them up to 2020/21 yes, products released since then- no.
Have you even read both threads? Go through the highlights at least.
Edit: am a super sped and mixed coof threads with this one. For MPX vaccines nie stands at 70% methinks?
 
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36yo positive for covid, monkeypox AND HIV

You read that right, this guy visited* Madrid and managed to get infected with 3 different diseases at the same time.

*got creampied repeatedly
What an achievement.

I remember the days, when Something Awful was fun and had articles, such as Weekend Web, in which they lambasted posts from forums/communities of weird, deranged lunatics.
One such community was a subgroup of gays, who collected STDs, like they were stamps. They organised meetings where they could trade STDs, and happily announced when they became positive (pozzed) with the one they wished to get.
This monkeypox business just proves this disgusting subgroup still exists and probably grew in numbers.

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Bareback Exchange
 
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That may be true, but it's not dispositive. The claim was "the vax didn't even work." We know it has a significant effect in every age group. So the vax does work--unless there's some variable that protects vaccinated people and the vaccine itself doesn't do actually anything. Vaccinees are typically better educated and wealthier than anti-vaxers, which are correlated with better health outcomes. I can imagine wealthy, educated people will get more sick days to visit their doctor, have better health insurance, and generally make better decisions. But I think vaccination better explains the reduced morbidity and mortality among vaccinees. We understand how vaccines work and can easily quantify neutralizing antibodies. (Measuring cellular immunity is more difficult.) Vaccines work as designed is the simplest explanation for why vaccinated people don't get sick as often as unvaccinated people. We don't need to come up with complex theories about human behavior, risk aversion, etc.

Omicron covid was just weaker in general. In my state the unvaxxed under 50 death rate was 0 per 100,000 and the vaxxed death rate was 0 per 100,000. You can't improve on zero. The illness grew less dangerous as they tend to do because it favors its longterm survival.
Saying that the shot was responsible for the vaxxed not dying when no one was dying in that age group is erroneous. You aren't controlling for the variable of strain severity. If the disease is not able to kill people in that age group without the shot, then it can't improve the survival of the vaxxed unless it starts resurrecting the dead.

The extreme elderly showed statistically meaningful benefit. Even that might be more a side effect of the 90 year olds who didn't get the shot are probably the ones so near death they couldn't survive any challenge.
I'm not saying the general concept of vaccination in all cases doesn't work. The mechanism it works by is the same as natural immunity, you are just pre-training the body in hopefully a safe environment. However, not all vaccines are created equal. We've had plenty that did more harm than good and had to be discontinued. The flu one is basically a joke, like buying a lottery ticket and just hoping your numbers net you a small prize. Perhaps again, if you are so old you can't get through flu you might want it to make you feel like you have better odds, but it's still meaningless. The covid vax is hot garbage, and not even needed in an omicron world. The disease is not any worse than flu and since the shot doesn't even prevent infection, reduce the chances of long covid there is no benefit from it for non-olds and no means for it to produce herd immunity for the olds. It's shit and they would need to make a better version, but people like you cling to a security blanket because you can't face reality without it. It's not going to help you unless you are over 80. You might get covid but you are going to be fine.

Monkeypox doesn't have a vaccine, but there's some cross impact from the small pox one. However that 70% effective rate is NOT enough to break the transmission cycle of any virus. The only thing the gays could do to help their community would be to pause orgies long enough to let it die off, but they won't do that. It's going to keep spreading just fine in that 30% failure gap. They are still going to end up scarred for their thrist, but it's a free world let them make their choices.
 
The medical community is complicit in the spread of monkeypox. Rather than focus on the evidence that it is primarily sexually transmitted, they proclaimed that it can be transmitted through any physical contact. It's just too much to ask faggots to limit random hookups and orgys. PREP has led to negative consequences as far as other STDs/MP go. It is believed now that HIV isn't a major risk that protection is not needed.
 
Vaccines as we knew them up to 2020/21 yes, products released since then- no.
No, we understand how vaccines approved in 2020 and 2021 work, too. We have both a theoretical understanding and empirical evidence for this stuff. We're not talking about barber surgeons bleeding patients because Galen said they have too much bile.

Have you even read both threads? Go through the highlights at least.
No, but I read papers on PubMed, ACIP meeting materials, and occasionally other interesting-looking research efforts. I have entertained a number of anti-vax hypotheses, but they're basically all the same things anti-vaxers have been saying for decades. Wildly implausible ideas lacking any biological mechanism, misrepresentation or outright falsification of data, incorrect applications of informal fallacies to discredit their opponents, conflation of moral or political issues with scientific questions, attacks on individual persons* rather than scientific conclusions, etc. It's all so tiresome.

* "Freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
 
No, but I read papers on PubMed, ACIP meeting materials, and occasionally other interesting-looking research efforts.
That's exactly what is linked in those highlights - links to scientific research...Perhaps more than you came across on your own. And I don not mean IFLS variety. Check out a few of Drain Todger's or Borsabil's posts to get a taste.
 
Between stuff like this and the virus showing up in cum... I'm noticing a lot less talk about it from the MSM.

They're downplaying the fact that it's coming from the gay community. They don't want to hurt feelings. We were far less woke during the height of the AIDS epidemic. If some kid got monkeypox from infected sheets maybe we should be looking at why that happened. Maybe a kid had a nightmare and slept in his parents bed. But what we aren't being told is if the parents were two gay men or if daddy was getting pounded up the ass in secret. Mom thinks he's staying late at work. But he's really at the club taking anonymous cock. Maybe check his phone for a Grindr app just to be safe.

Worst case scenario is the kid was diddled. But various other things could have come into play. I assume that no one is properly quarantining even though we just went through over two years of pandemic-mania. I know it's a different type of pox but when I was about 8 I got double exposed to chickenpox. My brother had been hospitalized for an injury and came back infected. And my friend's dad, who never had them as a kid, got infected at work so all his kids got it too. I had to stay inside until I was not infectious anymore. Not that I wanted to go anywhere in the condition I was in.

So if you are full of monkeypox why would you not quarantine yourself from other people (just like with the coof) until the infectious phase passed? I know it's hard to tell horny gay guys to cool it for a bit. But your nasty lesions are infecting others.

I have to wonder if there are monkeypox chasers out there just like with AIDS.
 
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