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Isnt smallpox one of those vaccines you have to get if you go to public school and shit? Like the same for hepatitis and meningitis?
Monkeypox General 🐒🦠 - Authorities are calling it Monkeypox. The UK has begun a rapid deployment of Smallpox vaccines to first responders.
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Well lads, we have three options:
- Blame the feds for releasing the pox to get the vaxcattle riled up again, and allowing them to start another series of lockdowns to further exert control and disintegrate the middle class.
- Blame Bill Gates and his cronies for releasing it to fulfil his dream of depopulating the Earth. He coincidently warned about smallpox potentially being used in bioterrorism last year, ain't that just crazy?
- Blame the homosexuals for being unable to master the arcane art of using a condom, starting yet another sexually-transmitted pandemic as a result. Guess the new age of gays need their own AIDS scare too.
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I don't see what the point of releasing smallpox on the population would be since we already have a quite ancient vaccine with a proven track record. Are there any special requirements to getting a smallpox vaccine or can you just walk into a clinic and get it?
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Welp, time to befriend your local dairy workers. I actually knew a girl who had cow pox, said it sucked a surprising amount, but historically we used it for cross immunity against small pox. Might work against monkey pox, too.
No, they stopped vaccinating against it around 1971, because we won. Small pox was defeated, except for all those labs we let keep it just in case it came back! So if you are under 50, you are naive against small pox, but the boomers will survive.
Can't wait for some pharma corp known for doing shady shit come up with their very own smallpox vaccine that they rushed out in half a month and for everyone to defend it tooth-and-nail.
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If you have had pox of one sort or another, aren't you immune against the spectrum? I mean, they used cowpox against smallpox at first.
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Smallpox is treatable and you can be inoculated against it. Monkeypox has no known treatments and the smallpox vaccine is only supposed to provide some protection against fatal outcomes. Unsure if you can just walk in and get it. I'm going to assume no because there probably aren't enough in circulation.
Triple autistic conspiracy theory:
Antivax movement (pre-pandemic) was a foreign psyop that wasn't far reaching enough. C19 was released to create greater division in this regard. It is a "safe" virus to do all of these litmus tests of control and vaccine uptake. Now that roughly half of the western world completely distrusts pharmaceutical companies, they can use a virus that is super effective for biowarfare (poxvirus), and all of the people with a distrust for the pharmaceutical companies will double down even when everyone around them is dying. Without this element of severe distrust and division, releasing the smallpox virus on a population would have easily been curbed and stopped.
I don't fully believe this myself but this is what schizobrain thinks.
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It's interesting to wake every day to find your field of research gets more and more reasons to exist (and get funding), that's not really a good thing.
I assume the reason why the smallpox vaccine is getting rolled out is, much like Smallpox itself, Monkeypox is also an Orthopoxvirus just like Cowpox too so presumably they're gunning on "well, this vaccine works on smallpox, it should work here too".
There's no way they would've used Smallpox for an outbreak as it's assumed eradicated from the wild, and only two places are known to have it from what I can remember, which I believe is the main CDC office in the USA, and VECTOR in Russia. So any sort of release of that would have heads turning to both places and their governments.
If this turns into an outbreak then my work will get much fucking busier and I'm busy enough as-is, just fuck my shit up. I'm not going back into fucking lockdown though, my work got disrupted enough already.
You can really tell it's an election year, huh?
I assume the reason why the smallpox vaccine is getting rolled out is, much like Smallpox itself, Monkeypox is also an Orthopoxvirus just like Cowpox too so presumably they're gunning on "well, this vaccine works on smallpox, it should work here too".
There's no way they would've used Smallpox for an outbreak as it's assumed eradicated from the wild, and only two places are known to have it from what I can remember, which I believe is the main CDC office in the USA, and VECTOR in Russia. So any sort of release of that would have heads turning to both places and their governments.
If this turns into an outbreak then my work will get much fucking busier and I'm busy enough as-is, just fuck my shit up. I'm not going back into fucking lockdown though, my work got disrupted enough already.
You can really tell it's an election year, huh?
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I was about to say there were cases in Germany in the 80's, too. It's not a new virus, just one that is very rare to see in these parts.
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That's bad!
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It's impossible to prove that it's eradicated from the wild, you'd have to capture and survey every animal on Earth to prove it, and if you did, why wouldn't you just treat/expunge the animal in question?
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Don't care. Pureblood till the day I die (of smallpox)
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Covid basically being a mild cold for 99.99% of people was the main incitement for people not seeing the point in taking a vaccine that had its own potential risks and you could still get covid even if vaxxed, so it just didnt seem to make sense to get the vaxx for a lot of people becuase now you are at risk of very rare vaxx side effects and still at risk of covid.
If you have actual mass sickness and death, then any risk from a vaccine would be worth it, so if this is the plan I don't think it would hold up.
If bodies actually start dropping I'd get the vaccine and I never got the covid shot because I had covid and it was a big nothing for me. No one I know personally or even in my extended freind group on social media from college ever got really sick from covid but I know a few people who had weird vaccine side effects. I weighed it and made the decision to not take the jab.
Expecting people to just be arbitrally be against a smallpox vaccine in the event on an actual outbreak and a real pandemic with mass death doesn't make sense. I have taken a number of vaccines, the covid one imo just seemed pointless with more cons than pros.
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True, though we've had zero reports of it for I believe a few decades now, so it has just been assumed to be eradicated in the wild. I'd have to look it up online to see if there were any known animal reservoirs for smallpox though as I've never really checked by virtue of it being something I never really considered being a possibility that I may work on it in the future, since I never considered anyone dumb enough to do such a thing.
But if some suits decide to put that shit out there, more dangerous things for me to analyze and find treatments to!
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"Oh no, the US isn't running biolabs in The Ukraine™, that's a conspiracy theory!"
"Ok, so maybe there are lots of American biolabs in The Ukraine™, but we're only funding them and besides, they are only working on biological defense. "
"Ok so maybe we should prevent the Russians from getting their hands on them, at ALL costs. "
"Anyway if something were released, the Russians did it 100% guaranteed, there's no doubt at all. "
Not being an evil billionaire, I just thought they were setting the stage for a false flag biological attack in The Ukraine™, not another global pandemic.
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It may not even be deliberate. Consider the fact Russian Soldiers dug trenches in the Red Forest and stole highly radioactive samples from labs at Chernobyl. It's not such a big stretch they would have been similarly cavalier at a Bioweapons lab. And we KNOW Ukraine has stockpiles of soviet era God only knows wtf at their labs. It was a news story a few weeks ago when people started sperging out about them.
God only knows what was at those facilities. The infection emergence in countries known to take in Ukrainian Refugees, along with the incubation period of the smallpox virus indicates a strong possibility of a biocontainment breach coming from the Ukraine war IMO.
In a totally and completely unrelated matter, the US Armies Medical Reserch Divisions private sector front company Emergent Biosolutions just dropped a cool quarter billion dollars for the company that makes the smallpox treatment Chimerex.
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Well if so, there's potentially much worse that may proceed to leak out then. I'm aware the Ukraine labs officially had a number of BSL-3s, and I believe there were unofficial reports of Crimean-Congo being stored, which is BSL-4. There may of course also be others, especially if the USA feds were heavily involved and doing naughty shit up there to avoid scrutiny. The moment I hear of hemorrhagic fever outbreaks or anything else just as hilariously bad in the West is the moment I immediately ask my supervisors for a fast-track to higher pathogen handling permits.
Labs potentially having ancient but still dangerous samples isn't that rare either, actually, and the chances only go up the older the facility is. It's not that rare to see a news report that they found an old sample bottle of Anthrax in a broom closet of a CDC lab, and so on, lab practices were pretty shit back in the day.
Wonder if the patients these outbreaks can be traced back to had any involvement in the war, i.e. volunteering or refugee processing, or so on.
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What, you are saying this is actually smallpox in milder form?
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I mean, it's not a direct ancestor/descendant to Smallpox, but it is of the same genus. You can argue it's more mild yes, but that's a 30% lethality (Smallpox) to either 10% or 1% depending on strain from what I've quickly read, still not something you'd want to get that's for certain.
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