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Dailymail reporting a possible superapreador event. Take with a grain of salt mind you.
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Monkeypox General 🐒🦠 - Authorities are calling it Monkeypox. The UK has begun a rapid deployment of Smallpox vaccines to first responders.
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Is this the new aids
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You win, I think. Gain of function tests on monkeypox at the Wuhan Institute of Virology:
Found this screenshot and article on Lipstick Alley this morning, but I can't find the paper on the Keai website. It could be I'm just crappy at researching science papers, though.
Does anyone have any info? Contradicts the Ukraine Lab leak theory, anyway. Imagine the Asian hate in the west if this turns out to be true? Blaming Russia would certainly be more "politically savvy", as well.
Edited for more info: The article I'm referring to was on the site "actress.com", which I'm not familiar with, not the scientific paper. Still haven't found that.
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And keep away from filthy homo buttholes.
If you see a pride parade headed towards you, cork your anus and start running as fast as you can!
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Guys its not smallpox, smallpox was eradicated. Stop being doomers. It's all media sensationalism for you to freak out and give them precious clicks because of the recent memory of corona.
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Russians don't see it as a risk
Is it because being a pooftah is illegal there
Is it because being a pooftah is illegal there
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Most here are concerned over government reaction, not the disease.
You could be right though.
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I'm just not ready to return to monke yet
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Hopefully the "gay plague" does it's job this time.
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Interesting video from Amazing Polly -
Mentions something about a Dr. Ralph something or other that did GoF research on Corona and has some kind of connection with monkey pox too. It's all in the video. Maybe someone can archive it coz it doesn't play properly for me.
She mentions Dr. Mark Buller the leading scientist on GoF research on different forms of the Pox virus. He created one so deadly that it killed all the mice. No vaccines or anything else could help them. In fact, he advised against the use of Vaccines when it comes to monkey pox. He was hit by a car whilst riding his bike and killed.
Scientists have created a highly lethal virus in an effort to develop stronger protections against supervirulent forms of smallpox that terrorists might turn on humans, researchers said yesterday.
The genetic engineering involved a virus known as mousepox, which infects mice but is not known to hurt people. Into that virus the scientists spliced a single gene that made it superlethal, then tested it on mice treated with different combinations of a smallpox vaccine and drugs.
The scientists said the results showed that the best defenses proved quite effective in preventing deadly disease not only in mice, but probably in humans exposed to customized smallpox of similar design.
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Yesterday, Dr. Buller said the St. Louis researchers had also made a designer form of cowpox, another cousin of smallpox, to better understand how easy or difficult it would be to apply the same kind of genetic engineering to the human smallpox virus and make it more lethal.
Experts said both the threat of such developments and the federal response seemed part of a theoretical debate, not something to worry about for now. They split over whether the research was prudent.
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Eradicated two decades ago, smallpox no longer exists in nature or human populations. Officially, only the United States and Russia have stocks of the virus, under tight security. But federal experts suspect that clandestine supplies of the virus exist or could be fabricated.
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Yesterday, Dr. Buller said the St. Louis researchers had also made a designer form of cowpox, another cousin of smallpox, to better understand how easy or difficult it would be to apply the same kind of genetic engineering to the human smallpox virus and make it more lethal.
Experts said both the threat of such developments and the federal response seemed part of a theoretical debate, not something to worry about for now. They split over whether the research was prudent.
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Eradicated two decades ago, smallpox no longer exists in nature or human populations. Officially, only the United States and Russia have stocks of the virus, under tight security. But federal experts suspect that clandestine supplies of the virus exist or could be fabricated.
Dr. Buller said that colleagues at the Army's biodefense institute at Fort Detrick, Md., were planning to test the superlethal cowpox virus on mice. Yesterday, neither the White House nor Fort Detrick would comment on whether those plans had been approved.
The cowpox virus can infect humans, though the resulting disease is usually mild. Still, critics worry about the ramifications of such research, for safety and for precedent. ''The issue here,'' Dr. Harris said, ''is the potential of this research being misapplied for destructive purposes.''
There was a spate of microbiologists being killed in car crashes in the 80's in the UK and the 90's in the US, iirc. Dozens and dozens of them. It seems that they get employed to do the research, are sworn to secrecy, but then need to get bumped off because they know too much or are maybe made to make weaponized versions of it. Who knows. They got hit by cars, drove their cars in to walls at 90mph, got pushed in front of trains, had their brakes cut. About 20 or 30 of them in the UK. It's been memory holed now but had a few websites just stating who they were (the scientists) what research they were doing, and how they ""killed"" themselves. Can't find any of them - they've been scrubbed.
It's a dangerous time to be a microbiologist, again.
Polly talks about another microbiologist (Canadian level 4) who died in 2020 in Africa, who disputed the cause of Corona and SARS or something.
So yeah, they've been weaponising the pox for many years. In fact it was Fauci who funded some of that very research! NIAID - proven to have funded the GoF research as well at Wuhan. Mmm....
And the world's leading researcher on Orthopox virus dies after getting hit by a car. This is the scientist who advised against vaccination with regard to Monkey Pox.
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Maybe someone can archive it.
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Exactly; and I have a sense of deja vu (and not in the good way) at how the response from gov and medical authorities is “it’s like, super rare and hard to spread don’t worry”, then in the same breath, “but wow this is spreading really fast that’s weird”.
I can’t recall the guys name but some US expert in tropical diseases last week made a dismissive “it’s monkeypox, stop worrying” statement and I wish I could just respond to him with “how about you GET MORE DATA first on these specific infections before you just call it a day on this?”.
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small pox was a selection pressure and that had some effect on the immune systems inherited by descendants. but you're presenting that as immunity against a specific germ (it isn't!) and also as a benefit without a trade off (which does not exist immunologically).
It isn't immunity to a specific germ because diseases evolve much too quickly for this to be a useful adaptation. Your body cannot store infinite information related to immunity, carrying everything in your ancestry would not be adaptive, the diseases you were immune against mostly wouldn't be around any more. It is the same way that there isn't infinite space for memories in your brain either, so if you could pass along ancestral memories you would not be able to learn anything new (though you would probably be very good at making stone age tools and using them). Instead we evolved to become most adaptable to the current situation. The closest thing is antibodies in breastmilk and those only confer specified immunity against things the mother encountered, but there are limits that aren't well-understood to that.
As for why immune response is a trade off: your immune system fights pathogens, but also destroys cancer cells, and attacks the host in autoimmune disorders, and is the source of all allergic reactions including deadly anaphylaxis, there is no such thing as risk-free immune response since changing one thing might fuck up another part of the equation. The immune response that would help you survive one thing runs the risk of causing another problem, possibly a serious one. For instance- severe & recurrent diarrheal disease in humans is deadly enough to have caused some pretty serious immune adaptations, one of them was the evolution of the appendix. Contrary to popular belief it isn't vestigial, and the doctors who originally claimed it was vestigial said the same thing about the large intestine. Anyway, the appendix has immune system tissue and works as a reservoir for beneficial bacteria, re-populates the intestines after serious gastrointestinal distress. appendicitis is a very rare occurrence in areas where diarrheal disease is a normal recurring part of life because of lack of water sanitation (which is to say most places in the entirety of human history and also most places in the modern world outside of developed countries). Appendicitis is somewhat common in places with good water sanitation and a lack of serious/recurrent diarrheal disease, meaning most of us know someone who got their appendix removed. People who do not get surgery in time for appendicitis face serious outcomes including death. Whatever adaptations are in your ancestry can only apply to what was faced in the past, they might be beneficial or neutral or harmful for the future. Since it is all so complicated it is very hard to predict what exactly the outcome of changes might be, like perhaps people who are less susceptible to small pox are more susceptible to dying from a bee sting or don't suppress cancer cells adequately.
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Are mousepox and monkeypox not the same thing? Same virus. I read on Wikipedia that although monkeypox was first found in monkeys, it originally started in mice. Weird. Thanks for the info, I'm going to see if I can find anything else.
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Ask and ye shall receive; attached the paper in question and can also read it here.
At a glance this research is relatively benign (it discusses viral detection) and also very recent, however the fact it's even popping up in academic literature suggests plenty going on behind the scenes.
Ask and ye shall receive; attached the paper in question and can also read it here.
At a glance this research is relatively benign (it discusses viral detection) and also very recent, however the fact it's even popping up in academic literature suggests plenty going on behind the scenes.
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Thank you, and thank you for parsing it for me. Kiwis are fucking amazing. I really don't know what to think but the whole thing smells off, somehow.
Something to be aware of, I suppose, like the strange child hepatitis in the UK recently, that wasn't strains A-E. Could all be coincidence, or as simple as worldwide lack of immunity due to lockdowns.
What is it they say:
Once is happenstance, twice a coincidence, three times is enemy action?
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Yes, there were ‘parties’ in the canary islands that were basically international rave-n-buttsex orgies. Then Everyone went home and continued with the sex.
It kind of does exist though and it doesn’t need millennia. Look at myxomatosis in rabbits. Introduce myxie, 99.9% of rabbits nuked, 0.01% of bunnies immune to a degree, they breed. Now you sometimes see one with it and it’s a bad way to go but for the most part, the disease doesn’t wipe out populations. Or rats and warfarin based poisons - Urban rats eat poison for lunch that would have killed then a decade ago (it’s a massive issue in urban pest control.) in humans, we know our genes are shaped by past plagues - the CF allele frequency in Europe is thought to be from that, and the Northern European resistance to HIV may be as well. I get your point about it not being a simple and total genetic immunity but populations do fairly quickly develop a gene frequency shift for catastrophic stuff that gives a degree of resistance. The classical sickle cell: malaria example is the one the textbooks most use. But everything does ot, from bacterial resistance to hiv resistance in humans.
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Just dumb ancedata, but I noticed far more people voluntarily wearing masks at Costco today. Costco is a hotbed of braindead NPCs, so I wonder if it is because the retards think that monkeypox is airborne and not fagborne, and even if they know that, just wear the mask To Be Sure.
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Urgh yeah this happened with flu as well a few years back. Ron Fouchier tweaked H5N1 and then passages it through ferrets or whatever multiple times until it turned into Major Bastard Flu. The resultant paper caused uproar, becasue of how bloody dangerous what they did was and how easy it would be to replicate. Pretty decent layman’s account of it here:
Archive link https://archive.ph/wip/cIsdR
Eventually it got published .
Anyway the point is that it’s not that hard to do this stuff. It’s hard to direct it where you want it to go, but it’s not that hard to brew up something that will do damage. What seems hard is doing it safely and not bloody releasing it.
I say this as a scientist but scientists are retards, who often don’t think about if something should be done. I get that is a key driver of discovery, but now and again it has bad outcomes…
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Is this the new plague sent by God to wipe out the faggots? It spread all over Europe from a Dutch scat party for gay men, after all.
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It’s a good thing with this new butthole-borne disease we haven’t been encouraging everyone to eat ass through increasingly satanic pornography and only showcase asses and buttholes at the expense of other, sexier body parts in most nude photos on Onlyfaps.