War More than 1,000 people, including Hezbollah members, wounded in Lebanon when pagers explode - Israel blows the balls off Hezbollah members

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BEIRUT, Sept 17 (Reuters) - More than 1,000 people, including Hezbollah fighters and medics, were wounded on Tuesday when the pagers they use to communicate exploded across Lebanon, security sources told Reuters.
A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the "biggest security breach" the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of war with Israel.
Israel and the Iran-backed Hezbollah have been engaged in cross-border warfare since the Gaza war erupted last October, the worst such escalation in years.

The Israeli military declined to comment on Reuters enquiries about the detonations.
Iran's Mehr news agency said the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon, Mojtaba Amani, was injured by one of the blasts. Reuters could not immediately confirm the report.
A Reuters journalist saw ambulances rushing through the southern suburbs of the capital Beirut, a Hezbollah stronghold, amid widespread panic. A security source said that devices were also exploding in the south of Lebanon.

At Mt. Lebanon hospital, a Reuters reporter saw motorcycles rushing to the emergency room, where people with their hands bloodied were screaming in pain.
The head of the Nabatieh public hospital in the south of the country, Hassan Wazni, told Reuters that around 40 wounded people were being treated at his facility. The wounds included injuries to the face, eyes and limbs.
The wave of explosions lasted around an hour after the initial detonations, which took place about 3:45 p.m. local time (1345 GMT). It was not immediately clear how the devices were detonated.

Lebanese internal security forces said a number of wireless communication devices were detonated across Lebanon, especially in Beirut's southern suburbs, leading to injuries.
Groups of people huddled at the entrance of buildings to check on people they knew who may have been wounded, the Reuters journalist said.
Regional broadcasters carrying CCTV footage which showed what appeared to be a small handheld device placed next to a grocery store cashier where an individual was paying spontaneously exploding. In other footage, an explosion appeared to knock out someone standing at a fruit stand at a market area.

Lebanon’s crisis operations center, which is run by the health ministry, asked all medical workers to head to their respective hospitals to help cope with the massive numbers of wounded coming into for urgent care. It said health care workers should not use pagers.
The Lebanese Red Cross said more than 50 ambulances and 300 emergency medical staff were dispatched to assist in the evacuation of victims.

Hezbollah fired missiles at Israel immediately after the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas gunmen on Israel. Hezbollah and Israel have been exchanging fire constantly ever since, while avoiding a major escalation as war rages in Gaza to the south.
Tens of thousands of people have been displaced from towns and villages on both sides of the border by the hostilities.


From OSINT

What we know so far:
- Explosion happened simultanously
- Explosions didn't only happen in Lebanon, but in Syria too so it's a long range to be wireless detonation signal.
- The pager is 'Rugged Pager AR924' produced by a Taiwanese company
- Small Li-Ion battery, can't explode that big
- None of the pagers caught fire, which is common incase of a battery 'explosion' rather they just exploded.
- However the pagers did heat up before
- All exploded pagers were the same model of pager.
- The pagers came from one shipment

Also pretty shitty headline considering this was an attack that could only hit Hezbollah members

Video of the attacks
 
The children in the grocery store totally deserved it because a supposed terrorist was standing by. Why don't you people just enlist already?
"Think of mah keedz!", says the Hadji who has no qualms about strapping bombs to kids or using them as human shields.

Ragheads hate infidels more than they love their own children.
 
Yeah, and that's one reason why I work for The Episcopal Church and not fucking Hezbollah.
Both are absolutely horrifying groups in their own way.
That church of yours has not managed to teach you compassion for a child, who is supposed to be innocent before God?
The fuck is wrong with you people? Nobody asks you to do more than just not celebrate and mock. You have 2000 adults to mock.
And yet you choose to justify the death of one child? Weird shit Marge.
Jesus wept.
 
Hello functional retard friend,

Please read the part where they were exploding in public in markets and crowded streets on video. Realize that civilian collateral is guaranteed.

Thank you

Imagine applying these arguments to LA drive bys. "Don't ya'll foos undasand dose bullets be sent to crips n'sheeit. They dun started dis sheeit when dey shot muh nigga Jamal., it be der fault errybody at dah club be catchin' lead nigga." Have your brutal mask-off terf war of terror but don't pretend you ride a high horse when it's legs have clearly been blown off.
COOOPPPPPEEEEEEE

this is as targeted as an attack gets
they are at war
Hezbollah targets civvies with rocket attacks pretty fucking often

Collateral damage isn't a useful ethical argument against performing military operations, especially highly targeted ones. Collateral damage is more severe when you lob larger amounts of explosives at buildings instead of smaller amounts of explosives. Next time Israel will use voodoo dolls to kill their enemies only in their sleep and when they're alone.
 
Both are absolutely horrifying groups in their own way.
That church of yours has not managed to teach you compassion for a child, who is supposed to be innocent before God?
The fuck is wrong with you people? Nobody asks you to do more than just not celebrate and mock. You have 2000 adults to mock.
And yet you choose to justify the death of one child? Weird shit Marge.
Jesus wept.
Im not going to speak for other people, but I'm pretty sure Jesus would oppose murdering children.
 
And I've already explained that Mossad would rig 1,000 pagers in the hopes that one of them winds up in the hands of their intended target and then blow up that one.
How would they know the pager reached their target? Pagers don't transmit as far as I know, you don't sign into them, and I doubt they keep such meticulous records that they can know Pager XYZ went to target A. This is clearly a shock to your sensibilities, and that's not a bad thing. You just have to learn to accept that other people are not as bound by morals as you are.
 
wow, so when they found out they had explosives in their pocket, they just threw them on the ground like pajeets so that civilians could stumble onto them? it just gets more incriminating by the second, jesus christ.
What would you do with yours if you had one of these unexploded pagers?

Israel just created the world's largest cluster bomb.
 
Because pagers aren't as easy to compromise or geolocate by intel agencies? That has been explained here by others. They were all from one specific shipment (if that's even true) because that's how convenient supply-chain interceptions work.

My theory that Mossad didn't intend to detonate them all at once is based on the horrible optics and sure-to-come int'l condemnation from this and the fact that Mossad has fucked up like this before with "targeted" attacks that inflicted widespread collateral damage (Stuxnet). I don't have a side in this war and would be perfectly fine if they all somehow managed to wipe each other out completely.
what the fuck are you talking about? yes, i know why hezbollah is using pagers. the point is that ONLY hezbollah and this singular other group is using them. somehow, i can't even find hezbollah saying that israel is killing hospital workers, just that they're going to get revenge.

the optics are fine, bro. no one is upset that literally only terrorists and the people around terrorists whom the terrorists themselves placed in danger are dead. it's a tragedy that those terrorists had the nerve to do so much non-uniformed military activity in the urban environments they do, because this is the consequence. don't join a terrorist organization and you won't be getting a pager the mossad intercepted because you're being tracked on your phones. it really is as simple as don't join the evil group if you don't want to have bad things visited on you and those around you. like, duh?

not to mention that as far as anyone can tell there's no proof of israeli involvement yet, it's just an accusation by hezbollah and the assumption by the rest of the world, but unless they can prove it, none of israel's international allies are going to condemn them.

What would you do with yours if you had one of these unexploded pagers?

Israel just created the world's largest cluster bomb.
put it in water. bury it. put it in a metal box and then put it somewhere and watch to warn people. not be a nigger, i don't know. there's a lot of options besides throw it on the ground and run away.
 
I can’t believe people still use pagers even in third world shitholes
Something similar to this got pulled off with a mobile once before. Only one target that time back in 1996.


Rafat, West Bank - The details of Yahya Ayyash's assassination on Friday show the chief Hamas bomb-maker had grown careless: he stayed for six months in the same house in Beit Lahiya refugee camp and he was the guest of Osama Hamad, 27, a university friend, whose uncle was a known collaborator, writes Patrick Cockburn.

"Last June he got in touch with me and asked to live in my house in Beit Lahiya," says Osama, who was at first suspected of being behind the assassination and was arrested by the Palestinian security police. Osama says that, at the time, he was working for his uncle, Kamal Hamad, 43, a successful building contractor and "I told him [Ayyash] I was not sure that my uncle was 'clean'." Kamal gave Osama a mobile phone - the number is now known to be 050-507497 - to keep in touch.

Last Thursday Kamal Hamad asked his nephew for the phone, which he later returned. It was almost certainly at this moment that the 2oz radio-controlled bomb was inserted. Osama says: "At 9am the cellular phone rang. It was Yahya's father, who asked to speak to him. I handed him the phone and heard him ask how his father was. I left the room to leave him alone. Five minutes later I returned because I thought he had finished his conversation. I saw Yahya lying on the ground covered in blood. He had no head. I was in shock. I called Hamas people and told them. They arrived quickly and took the body."

Kamal Hamad has disappeared, leaving behind his Mercedes and his grand house of cream-coloured stone. The Israeli press speculates that for betraying Ayyash he received $1m (pounds 650,000), a fake passport and a visa to the US.

He has left many Palestinians shocked that the Islamic movement was so deeply penetrated by Israeli intelligence.

Four days after Ayyash was killed, Israelis are waiting to see if Hamas will retaliate. The West Bank and Gaza have been sealed off, stopping Palestinians entering Israel.

In Rafat, a small village on a rocky hill close to the border with Israel, the brothers of Ayyash were receiving condolences from a long line of bearded students from Bir Zeit university near Jerusalem. "I can't predict if there will be revenge attacks," said a friend of the Ayyash family.

In theory the martyrdom of an Islamic hero is a matter for rejoicing, symbolised by the plate of dates being handed out to the mourners in Rafat. "He only sought Paradise," said the family friend. "He expected this to happen." Nevertheless his death at the hands of a Palestinian collaborator in a safe house in the heart of autonomous Gaza has deeply shocked Palestinians.
 
Both sides kill kids on purpose. It's hard to pick a side when both sides are evil. I just assume that jews are always worse.
 

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