War More than 1,000 people, including Hezbollah members, wounded in Lebanon when pagers explode - Israel blows the balls off Hezbollah members

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/dozens-hezbollah-members-wounded-lebanon-when-pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17/

BEIRUT, Sept 17 (Reuters) - More than 1,000 people, including Hezbollah fighters and medics, were wounded on Tuesday when the pagers they use to communicate exploded across Lebanon, security sources told Reuters.
A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the "biggest security breach" the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of war with Israel.
Israel and the Iran-backed Hezbollah have been engaged in cross-border warfare since the Gaza war erupted last October, the worst such escalation in years.

The Israeli military declined to comment on Reuters enquiries about the detonations.
Iran's Mehr news agency said the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon, Mojtaba Amani, was injured by one of the blasts. Reuters could not immediately confirm the report.
A Reuters journalist saw ambulances rushing through the southern suburbs of the capital Beirut, a Hezbollah stronghold, amid widespread panic. A security source said that devices were also exploding in the south of Lebanon.

At Mt. Lebanon hospital, a Reuters reporter saw motorcycles rushing to the emergency room, where people with their hands bloodied were screaming in pain.
The head of the Nabatieh public hospital in the south of the country, Hassan Wazni, told Reuters that around 40 wounded people were being treated at his facility. The wounds included injuries to the face, eyes and limbs.
The wave of explosions lasted around an hour after the initial detonations, which took place about 3:45 p.m. local time (1345 GMT). It was not immediately clear how the devices were detonated.

Lebanese internal security forces said a number of wireless communication devices were detonated across Lebanon, especially in Beirut's southern suburbs, leading to injuries.
Groups of people huddled at the entrance of buildings to check on people they knew who may have been wounded, the Reuters journalist said.
Regional broadcasters carrying CCTV footage which showed what appeared to be a small handheld device placed next to a grocery store cashier where an individual was paying spontaneously exploding. In other footage, an explosion appeared to knock out someone standing at a fruit stand at a market area.

Lebanon’s crisis operations center, which is run by the health ministry, asked all medical workers to head to their respective hospitals to help cope with the massive numbers of wounded coming into for urgent care. It said health care workers should not use pagers.
The Lebanese Red Cross said more than 50 ambulances and 300 emergency medical staff were dispatched to assist in the evacuation of victims.

Hezbollah fired missiles at Israel immediately after the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas gunmen on Israel. Hezbollah and Israel have been exchanging fire constantly ever since, while avoiding a major escalation as war rages in Gaza to the south.
Tens of thousands of people have been displaced from towns and villages on both sides of the border by the hostilities.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/dozens-hezbollah-members-wounded-lebanon-when-pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17/

From OSINT

What we know so far:
- Explosion happened simultanously
- Explosions didn't only happen in Lebanon, but in Syria too so it's a long range to be wireless detonation signal.
- The pager is 'Rugged Pager AR924' produced by a Taiwanese company
- Small Li-Ion battery, can't explode that big
- None of the pagers caught fire, which is common incase of a battery 'explosion' rather they just exploded.
- However the pagers did heat up before
- All exploded pagers were the same model of pager.
- The pagers came from one shipment

Also pretty shitty headline considering this was an attack that could only hit Hezbollah members

Video of the attacks

 

[Why am I doing this?]

Two sources tell Axios that Israel's goal in the second wave of attacks today was to increase paranoia and fear in Hezbollah's ranks

I don't think they really had a choice about the timing. Even a fucking caveman would eventually think to check his devices for explosives after the pager attack. If they didn't do the second attack soon after the first, it would have been discovered and the opportunity wasted.

 

[Cane Skretteburg]

Palestine isn't Philistine no matter what reddit retards like you want it be. The country ceased to exist when the Persians took it over.

The country was taken over and then all the people who lived in that country just ceased to exist I guess. That must be the same reason there are no more Polish people

 

[trent]

Israel completely ignoring international calls for a ceasefire/to ease off on this kind of attack is hilarious.

Every time the peace talks ramp up they murder a bunch of people to make sure nothing ever comes of it.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Netanyahu releases a 10 second video, saying only "I have already said, we will safely return the residents of the north to their homes. And that is exactly what we will do."

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

You can't choose where you are born but you can choose not be a pro bono shill for the JIDF.

you can't choose where you're born but you can choose not to join a terrorist group in southern lebanon that the rest of lebanon hates, and you can choose not to hang around someone you know is in a terrorist group. i don't see how this is hard to understand, and that's why i continuously call you a muzzie. you have to be a muslim, or there's no way you wouldn't understand that joining hezbollah isn't forced on you, the same as joining the US military isn't forced, or being an illiterate nigger isn't forced.

you are desperately trying to portray me as caring in a positive way about israel, or implying that the country of israel has somehow invented the concept of deceptive warfare, interception of goods for an enemy combatant, etc, and throwing up two, literally two, innocents having been caught in the crossfire of an otherwise extremely clean operation, as being proof that israel are just as bad as hamas or hezbollah or any number of sandnigger groups when those very groups would use the people you are dancing on the graves of and shoving in others' faces as a weapon of emotion to shield themselves from a kill team's bullets all the same.

the argument is hollow because all the things you're trying to make me feel guilty about don't matter, and the muzzies being angry at israel is a guarantee anyway. the only innocents who died were people that terrorist hamas operatives put in harm's way by being near them while working for a terrorist group in plainclothes. the realpolitik here is that the muslims will never, ever, ever stop fighting the jews, because they want to eradicate them due to their holy doctrine. it is an inseparable part of being a muslim that you must want jews dead. it is to ignore all of muslim history, and the direct statements of dozens, if not hundreds, of muslim leaders to ignore that fact.

we all KNOW that the jews do shady shit in the US too, we're not retarded, or at least i know, and i'm not that retarded. i don't have to suck off israel to say 'yeah i'm glad these muzzie child rapist terrorists who bought pagers for the explicit purpose of being terrorists more effectively are dead by the people they're terrorizing.' it's just the natural result of sandniggers sandnigging. again, if the IDF had been caught in this exact thing, i'd be laughing at the giga-circumcision of jews, and how now they never have to worry about it growing back. it's not about pro-israel, it's about disliking hezbollah. if it was another random islamic sect that fucked up hezbollah i would just as laugh-prone as i am now, because the part that's funny isn't that israel is a chad winner omega war fighter, it's that a bunch of muzzies were too dumb to check their devices at any point in 5 months, and then too dumb to check them again after a massive attack against them that seriously wounded hundreds of their soldiers.

p.s. i'm not posting a picture of myself on kiwifarms, but i will tell you that i made coldcut ham and cheese sandwiches on hawaiian buns for my family yesterday. fried honey ham is unbelievably good.

Israel completely ignoring international calls for a ceasefire/to ease off on this kind of attack is hilarious.

Every time the peace talks ramp up they murder a bunch of people to make sure nothing ever comes of it.

goddamn it's astounding how little some people follow news in this part of the world despite thinking they need to stick their opinion in it like a muslim in a sheep. israel literally said it doesn't matter what ceasefire is agreed to with hamas, they will not stop their war with hezbollah. they're separate conflicts.

I don't think they really had a choice about the timing. Even a fucking caveman would eventually think to check his devices for explosives after the pager attack. If they didn't do the second attack soon after the first, it would have been discovered and the opportunity wasted.

the cavemen involved here didn't seem to think it was prudent to check or ditch the radios they got in the same shipment as the pagers, even though it was obvious the pagers were intercepted.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

On one hand: fuck Israel, death to AIPAC
On the other: fuck Hezbollah, death to the Ishmaelites

 

[autistic dog]

Isreal and the US has been sabotaging ammunition stockpiles with explosive dummy rounds for years if not decades at this point. You can't open a door that they have already opened.

The US millitary can deliver a sword from the sky with enough precision to stab you in the heart.

 

[Otterly]

This is also why secured supply chains and chains of custody, especially for secure equipment, is absolutely non negotiable.

Damn right. There’s going to be some scrambling to look at that even within our own I think. Said during Covid that the reliance for critical materials like chemicals for water supply (which we nearly ran out of( and pharmaceutical stuff has to be onshore. Outsourcing and just in time is a disaster for security

Plastic explosives require a detonation mechanism, they don't explode by heat. You would need a detonator

Yup.

So this could only have been a tiny amount of plastic explosive with some kind of detonator triggered by a network message. The lithium in the cell would certainly add to the deflagration effect once it is dispersed in air.

Yup

Plastic explosives don't detonate by heat, you can literally set C4 on fire and it won't detonate. You need a special detonator with a shockwave,

Yup. So, that’s why I asked becasue at the start we had this:

No but generally Hezbollah routes purchases through igrc and they get it in the next shipment.

Exclusive sources for Sky News Arabia: Mossad placed a quantity of highly explosive PETN on the devices’ battery and detonated it by raising the temperature of the battery.

PETN is mixed with plasticiser to make plastic explosives. It’s one of the more fragile ones but like oil spill says it’s not easy to ignite at 1atm with heat. Which implies detonator was used rather than simply making the battery overheat. Is the battery overheating idea being pushed as a psychological one? Or can you mix PETN with something else to make it go boom with heat alone?

 

[Thomas Talus]

Is that a Mercedes? Hezbollah members sure do have fancy cars, bros.

Oh Allah, won't you buy me, a Mercedez-Benz, inshallah?

 

[Happy Fish]

bro. why are you acting like no one has ever thought to put a bomb in a phone or pager before? israel themselves literally did the bomb in a phone thing already. there's no doubt in my mind that the NSA would love backdoor encryption to blow up your phone the moment you say something they don't like. they don't need permission from israel doing it first. no one gives a fuck about morality or 'what if we do something our enemies can start doing' in this conflict, and if you think they do you have deluded yourself to the point of actual mental handicap. the US government does not need israel's permission to blow you up with a phone bomb if they think that's a good idea. the us government doesn't need to be inspired by someone to assassinate people.

the ira used car bombs in their campaigns of terror, why doesn't every government just blow up every single dissident with a car bomb already? there are plenty of terrorist organizations across the planet doing evil shit to people who don't deserve it, and somehow you've picked the one time a terrorist group is targeted specifically, precisely, and effectively, and your big cry-baby about it is to repeat a fifteen-times debunked retard point about 'setting phones on fire', which isn't even close to what happened. your comparisons to bush and obama era legal spying on civilians is buttfuck stupid because israel isn't even part of the united states, so there's nothing illegal to them about spying on us in the first place, and the Five Eyes just share data with each other anyway.

you are a dumb muzzie or a muzzie sympathizer, it's extremely obvious to everyone here. buy a pager, muzzie.

From your post I'm supposed to assume:
1) Government assassinations for whatever reason are okay and normal.
2) Human rights aren't a thing, and I should just forget the constitution.
3) Getting manufacturers to send people exploding consumer electronics is just totally cool
4) Because car bombs exist consumer electronic sabotage at a supply chain level is totally cool and something your government should have the ability to do.
5) Foreign espionage isn't illegal therefore worrying about government overreach is a bad thing.
6) Batteries being flamable has been debooooooonked because that isn't what happened here (lmfao)
7) Only muzzies hate war, assassinations, boobytraps, and improvised explosives.

There is nothing in your post resembling a coherent or rational thought. Reconsider your life choices you massive fucking retard.

 

[draggs]

I've no idea what you're even trying to say here.

You were jerking yourself off over how smart you are and all you were saying (rather breathlessly) was consequences will never be the same, like we've never heard that particular pronouncement before

It was ignorant, naive, nonsense

How many times have you made this argument in this thread? You are ignoring all of the broader implications this trend of Israeli escalation has for The West to fixate on this. This asinine assertion that randoms in some market square and (now apparently funeral attendees) being killed and maimed because of who their parents or families are, or even because of who their neighbors or loose associates are is totally cool bruh. You can't know your neighbor doesn't have a meth lab or a Rekeita sex dungeon. How do you even think this works in dense chaos of the 3rd world? You can't choose where you are born but you can choose not be a pro bono shill for the JIDF.

It doesn't even matter what you or I think about the ethics of painting the browns red, what is done is done. What matters is how the muzzies will perceive it, how they will react to it. I'm not interested in conflict accounting of death tolls going back decades, I'm interested in real politic. I'm interested in showing people that while they are making ball jokes, Mordechai is in the back rubbing his hands together and scheming to drain their coffers and put the blood on their hands.

Ps. If you want to accuse me of being a muzzie, then I challenge you to present proof of ham sandwich and I will do the same (bacon or other pork products are also acceptable). Then we can be sure there are no semites here.

Okay, realpolitik is that crying about how fighting terrorism only creates more terrorists is fake and gay bullshit and anyone who says it is a retard. Newsflash, fighting anyone in a war makes those people on the other side more motivated to fight you, until you force them to realize the consequences of continuing to fight are worse than the consequences of giving up

The added dash of Joo sperging really makes you more credible btw

 

[Otterly]

the ira used car bombs in their campaigns of terror,

They did and I remember it all very well and it was awful. The difference would be select cars with car bombs vs every Nissan micra or Skoda in the country. That’s a huge psychological difference.
It is a significant escalation and a pretty disturbing thing to have happened. The Taiwanese company seem to be disavowing it all and there’s some weirdo Hungarian woo lady behind a company called BAC consulting involved in the supply.
It’s all very peculiar, but it’s also a really nasty thought that general consumer electronics could be used like this.
Which is why I’m asking about the petn/battery overheating claims because that to me seems like posturing to create fear (effectively too) but if it’s real then they are able to set your house on fire fairly easily at a minimum. The Israeli objective here is to decapitate hezbollah but also to appear capable of action remotely anywhere

 

[draggs]

From your post I'm supposed to assume:
1) Government assassinations for whatever reason are okay and normal.
2) Human rights aren't a thing, and I should just forget the constitution.
3) Getting manufacturers to send people exploding consumer electronics is just totally cool
4) Because car bombs exist consumer electronic sabotage at a supply chain level is totally cool and something your government should have the ability to do.
5) Foreign espionage isn't illegal therefore worrying about government overreach isn't a bad thing.
6) Batteries being flamable has been debooooooonked because that isn't what happened here (lmfao)
7) Only muzzies hate war, assassinations, boobytraps, and improvised explosives.

There is nothing in your post resembling a coherent or rational thought. Reconsider your life choices you massive fucking retard.

1) Fighting a war is fighting a war. Yes, it is okay and normal to kill your enemy in war
2) Sabotaging enemy equipment in war is not a violation of human rights or the US constitution
3) It is when they're your enemy and you are currently at war with them. It's called sabotage, everyone tries to do it in war
4) Yes it is, when it is fighting a war
5) When it comes to fighting a war, this is in no way, shape, or form an example of government overreach
6) Seems irrelevant to the larger issues you raise here, fighting over this detail of precisely how the explosives in the devices were detonated
7) What Mussulmans hate or don't hate is only of consequence if you aren't able to wield superior force than they wield

It’s all very peculiar, but it’s also a really nasty thought that general consumer electronics could be used like this.

Well sheeeeit you're gonna have some really nasty thoughts intruding into your noggin if you ever read up on all the glow shit both sides tried to pull off in WW2, and the Cold War, and conflicts further back in history too

 

[Male Idiot]

I hope all the wokies see this and hate the Little Satan even more.

Also, it is kind of a clever trick, but also underhanded, craven and cowardly... so in an essence, Jewish! The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you, the jew attacks you when you can't fight back. They are like pajeets and gypsies but with big noses.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

1) Government assassinations for whatever reason are okay and normal.

they're normal when you're at literal war with someone for sure, and 'okay' is a term that entirely depends on who you support in a given region. i support assassinating terrorists, who were the ones being targeted by this op, and you have yet to address that in any way, whatsoever. you keep pretending like this wasn't a surgically precise strike that even in the enemies' own words only killed 2 innocents, against a religion whose doctrine says that innocent deaths are necessary if they refuse to convert. you are not winning this part of the argument because you refuse to actually acknowledge and address it, you blithering faggot.

2) Human rights aren't a thing, and I should just forget the constitution.

are you seriously going to sit here and tell me you think a single government on earth believes in your 'human rights' further than you can protect them with a gun from the average cop? fake argument nigger.

3) Getting manufacturers to send people exploding consumer electronics is just totally cool

that's not what they did you gasoline-huffing faggot, the israelis intercepted the shipment at some stage between bucharest and iran, and sabotaged the devices. hungary doesn't suck jew cock, retard.

4) Because car bombs exist consumer electronic sabotage at a supply chain level is totally cool and something your government should have the ability to do.

nigger sabotaging your enemy's supplies is a time honored warfighting tradition. sun-fucking-tzu said that causing your enemy's organizations to rot from within was the most efficient and devastating way to defeat your opponent.

5) Foreign espionage isn't illegal therefore worrying about government overreach isn't a bad thing.

that's not what anyone here has said, just because your schizo-brain read it that way isn't my fault. i said that that shit happens whether i cry about it on kiwifarms or not. i don't have the capability to stop it, so i say it's bad when it's relevant and move on. what the fuck do you want for me to do, fedpost?

6) Batteries being flamable has been debooooooonked because that isn't what happened here (lmfao)

li-ion batteries don't ignite the way we've seen the explosives, you absolute mongoloid. li-ion batteries catch fire first. here's video proof, niggerbrain.

7) Only muzzies hate war, assassinations, boobytraps, and improvised explosives.

muzzies are literally an entirely warlike body, whose holy scripture commands them to wage war against each and every individual on earth who is not a muslim until they either convert or die. they constantly use boobytraps, IEDs, assassination attempts (such as the one shin bet just foiled targeting a former IDF commander) and they literally use war as a form of religious reproduction. i don't know what you're trying to imply here, but yes, that is exactly what muzzies do, that is how they have operated for over 1000 years. i'm glad we're finally getting onto the same page that these savages do not give a fuck what israel does, they'll continue to fight forever, until the jews are all exterminated, by their own holy scripture's command and their leaders' many many statements.

 

[draggs]

I hope all the wokies see this and hate the Little Satan even more.

Also, it is kind of a clever trick, but also underhanded, craven and cowardly... so in an essence, Jewish! The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you, the jew attacks you when you can't fight back. They are like pajeets and gypsies but with big noses.

Yeah no one awkshoolly fighting a war gives a shit if someone says their glowops were underhanded, craven, and cowardly. Did it work? Yes? Well then, get fucked if you don't like it

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

They did and I remember it all very well and it was awful. The difference would be select cars with car bombs vs every Nissan micra or Skoda in the country. That’s a huge psychological difference.
It is a significant escalation and a pretty disturbing thing to have happened. The Taiwanese company seem to be disavowing it all and there’s some weirdo Hungarian woo lady behind a company called BAC consulting involved in the supply.
It’s all very peculiar, but it’s also a really nasty thought that general consumer electronics could be used like this.
Which is why I’m asking about the petn/battery overheating claims because that to me seems like posturing to create fear (effectively too) but if it’s real then they are able to set your house on fire fairly easily at a minimum. The Israeli objective here is to decapitate hezbollah but also to appear capable of action remotely anywhere

why are you lying about what happened here? the pager bombs, what this retard is arguing about, were specifically obtained for hezbollah by the irgc, and intercepted en route, not in bucharest.

Also, it is kind of a clever trick, but also underhanded, craven and cowardly...

i forgot how brave it is to hide your terrorist organization inside a crowded city full of civilians, refuse to wear identifying uniforms while fighting a self-proclaimed war, and to use civilian structures such as apartments as bases of operation for terrorist/military activity.

 

[False and Misleading]

If it makes anyone feel better, no one is checking your personal devices for malware or explosives and your house will explode the moment you make a post on Kiwifarms about the Jews. Stallman was right again!

 

[X Prime]

Gentlemen, perhaps we can agree that it would be good if the balls of everyone currently living in the general area were blown off by pagers.

 

[AN/ALR56]

They did and I remember it all very well and it was awful. The difference would be select cars with car bombs vs every Nissan micra or Skoda in the country. That’s a huge psychological difference.
It is a significant escalation and a pretty disturbing thing to have happened. The Taiwanese company seem to be disavowing it all and there’s some weirdo Hungarian woo lady behind a company called BAC consulting involved in the supply.
It’s all very peculiar, but it’s also a really nasty thought that general consumer electronics could be used like this.
Which is why I’m asking about the petn/battery overheating claims because that to me seems like posturing to create fear (effectively too) but if it’s real then they are able to set your house on fire fairly easily at a minimum. The Israeli objective here is to decapitate hezbollah but also to appear capable of action remotely anywhere

It's amazing people here can't see the precedent this opened and it's about this exact part I've boldened in your reply.

Rate me and otterly dumb all you like, it's still a fucking terror attack to lace a countries entire supply of a single electronic tool with fucking explosives indiscriminately.
This isn't sabotaging ammo or leaving booby trapped zero timer fused grenades in supply depots you left to the enemy, the ww2 equivalent would be putting torpex into Bell's supply of bakelite so that every phone in america would explode randomly in order to target army command staff..