📚 Megathread Most physically repulsive tranny?

[Peaches Demure]

You know, I really hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but if you are male and want to have sex with females, maybe presenting as a man will "cast a wider net" ... You know, being a chick with a dick is something of a niche market.

They don't reason like that. The "trans lesbians" who perv on actual lesbians tend to go in with the assumption that their trans status alone (remember, the most ohpresshed of the ohpresshed!) will grant them pity sex from lesbians. This is especially true if they were incels prior to trooning out (the incel-to-troon pipeline is surprisingly common). They've probably noted that even really ugly women will get propositioned by guys (because some guys are truly desperate and most desperate guys are not all that picky/'anything with tits/any hole is a goal' can be applied to them) and they assume that "becoming a woman" is the key to accessing this corner of the (meat) market.

They know absolutely nothing about women or how female sexuality operates, because their only knowledge of women comes from porn, vidya and anime. They don't realize that real lesbian relationships don't have the dynamic they're familiar with from porn, so even if they were able to pass as women (they don't) it's a radically different dynamic compared to a straight relationship.

 

[Argh My Cigar]

Severe mental illness.

Some of these people go as far as to ruin their otherwise decent lives. I can sort of understand always being friendless, depressed & miserable and then assuming slicing your ‘nads off will magically fix everything (Which someone I knew once told me, thankfully they stopped themselves before transitioning), but then you have people who intentionally put themselves in that position.

One “friend” I knew online was a reasonably attractive guy: mid 20s, military vet, fiance, decent job, etc. All it took was someone telling this person that they’d convincingly be able to pass as a female in a Zelda cosplay to set them down that slippery slope. Fast forward a year, fiance can’t deal with it and leaves, gets fired from job due to an emotional outburst, alienates all their friends, ends up in a psych ward, and is unable to get a job due to how obviously masculine they look despite taking HRT and meticulously applying makeup every day.

But hey, you’re the woman you always thought you were now, so... good for you?

 

[Non-Expert!]

They don't reason like that. The "trans lesbians" who perv on actual lesbians tend to go in with the assumption that their trans status alone (remember, the most ohpresshed of the ohpresshed!) will grant them pity sex from lesbians. This is especially true if they were incels prior to trooning out (the incel-to-troon pipeline is surprisingly common). They've probably noted that even really ugly women will get propositioned by guys (because some guys are truly desperate and most desperate guys are not all that picky/'anything with tits/any hole is a goal' can be applied to them) and they assume that "becoming a woman" is the key to accessing this corner of the (meat) market.

They know absolutely nothing about women or how female sexuality operates, because their only knowledge of omen comes from porn, vidya and anime. They don't realize that real lesbian relationships don't have the dynamic they're familiar with from porn, so even if they were able to pass as women (they don't) it's a radically different dynamic compared to a straight relationship.

Lesbians are a diverse group. Some have sex with men, some ultimately marry men but are still basically lesbians.

A lot of lesbians are like "no, never, absolutely no fucking way" if there is or ever was a penis attached to it. But lesbian relationships really are a world of their own, and that's the thing ... there is no place for a man in one.

At the risk of overgeneralization, a sense of dominance is part of male sexuality. Obviously to varying degrees. At one extreme it is predatory. At the other, it is a sense of being dominated, or perhaps a power play. As a female I can't comment on it much further, except for that for men, as I understand it, sex is a massive rush.

This is why I am a bit cynical about men masquerading as lesbians, because I get the sense that it it just more male sexuality, in a different package. But it is dishonest. It is probably still about dominance and strength but now they are appropriating femininity, in order to get their needs met.

Female sexuality is much more polymorphous, and emotional.

A lesbian might think that these guys are all about putting lesbians in their place and showing them who is boss. This, I can not comment on.

My own idea is that if you are serious about transitioning and passing and living as a woman, then it stands to reason, that the end goal is to be fucked, as though you were an actual woman. As in fucked by a man. Lesbians are a different category of women - they are natal women who are sexually attracted to women.

 

[Peaches Demure]

Lesbians are a diverse group. Some have sex with men, some ultimately marry men but are still basically lesbians.

A lot of lesbians are like "no, never, absolutely no fucking way" if there is or ever was a penis attached to it. But lesbian relationships really are a world of their own, and that's the thing ... there is no place for a man in one.

At the risk of overgeneralization, a sense of dominance is part of male sexuality. Obviously to varying degrees. At one extreme it is predatory. At the other, it is a sense of being dominated, or perhaps a power play. As a female I can't comment on it much further, except for that for men, as I understand it, sex is a massive rush.

This is why I am a bit cynical about men masquerading as lesbians, because I get the sense that it it just more male sexuality, in a different package. But it is dishonest. It is probably still about dominance and strength but now they are appropriating femininity, in order to get their needs met.

Female sexuality is much more polymorphous, and emotional.

A lesbian might think that these guys are all about putting lesbians in their place and showing them who is boss. This, I can not comment on.

My own idea is that if you are serious about transitioning and passing and living as a woman, then it stands to reason, that the end goal is to be fucked, as though you were an actual woman. As in fucked by a man. Lesbians are a different category of women - they are natal women who are sexually attracted to women.

Lesbians are a diverse group of people, yes, but a woman who engages in sex with men and decides to play house with a man is not a lesbian. At most she is bisexual.

"Lesbian attracted to males" is as much of an oxymoron as "married bachelor". It's a semantic impossibility.

Regarding the dynamics that troons frequently misunderstand or misinterpret, one example that I can think of right away is "being pampered/showered with gifts". Granted some HSTS twink troons and traps engage in this behavior with their (often older) chaser boyfriends, but I've noticed that AGPs who are married or in a LT relationship with a woman have these expectations on their female partners once they've trooned out. It's very bizarre.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Lesbians are a diverse group of people, yes, but a woman who engages in sex with men and decides to play house with a man is not a lesbian. At most she is bisexual.

"Lesbian attracted to males" is as much of an oxymoron as "married bachelor". It's a semantic impossibility.

Regarding the dynamics that troons frequently misunderstand or misinterpret, one example that I can think of right away is "being pampered/showered with gifts". Granted some HSTS twink troons and traps engage in this behavior with their (often older) chaser boyfriends, but I've noticed that AGPs who are married or in a LT relationship with a woman have these expectations on their female partners once they've trooned out. It's very bizarre.

.... And we are expected to enable this shit, under the banner of civil rights, gender equality, etc.

They are just taking advantage of us.

 

[Peaches Demure]

.... And we are expected to enable this shit, under the banner of civil rights, gender equality, etc.

They are just taking advantage of us.

Autogynephilia is a strange beast. I've tried to understand it, but in order to even come close, I feel I'd have to cut any and all ties with objective reality, like these dudes have done.

I've noticed that regardless of how old, fat, balding or generally hideous they are, they all go in with the expectations of being received and treated in a way that is reserved for young and indisputably gorgeous women, like the 23-year-old supermodel girlfriend that shows up to a red carpet event on an aging A-list actor's arm. Hetero troons (who are not attracted to men at all) want this type of dynamic with a woman where THEY get to play the part of the 50's trophy trad-wife and be lauded as stunning and brave. Sadly Reddit is full of these stories.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Autogynephilia is a strange beast. I've tried to understand it, but in order to even come close, I feel I'd have to cut any and all ties with objective reality, like these dudes have done.

I've noticed that regardless of how old, fat, balding or generally hideous they are, they all go in with the expectations of being received and treated in a way that is reserved for young and indisputably gorgeous women, like the 23-year-old supermodel girlfriend that shows up to a red carpet event on an aging A-list actor's arm. Hetero troons (who are not attracted to men at all) want this type of dynamic with a woman where THEY get to play the part of the 50's trophy trad-wife and be lauded as stunning and brave. Sadly Reddit is full of these stories.

Based on what people have posted here, I think that it is a complex and sustained act of masturbation, on the part of the AGP.

Some might be genuinely dysphoric, but none of the guys on this thread ... as I see it, at least. People with genuine gender dysphoria are basically tortured by these issues. And they are literally 1 in 100,000 at most.

Some of these folks are simply kinksters. Kinksters are gonna kink.
Some seem to be genuinely interested in their mirror image as a woman.

There might be an element of dissociation there. Or splitting. Some kind of DSM diagnostic terminology probably applies.

 

[vaporubber]

Autogynephilia is a strange beast. I've tried to understand it, but in order to even come close, I feel I'd have to cut any and all ties with objective reality, like these dudes have done.

I've noticed that regardless of how old, fat, balding or generally hideous they are, they all go in with the expectations of being received and treated in a way that is reserved for young and indisputably gorgeous women, like the 23-year-old supermodel girlfriend that shows up to a red carpet event on an aging A-list actor's arm. Hetero troons (who are not attracted to men at all) want this type of dynamic with a woman where THEY get to play the part of the 50's trophy trad-wife and be lauded as stunning and brave. Sadly Reddit is full of these stories.

I get the sense that the troon desire to switch gender roles resembles the need some men feel to engage in submissive sexual fantasies. The dominant, authoritative boss longing to serve in a sexually submissive role is an old trope, but I’ve read enough about BDSM to know that it holds true in many cases.

Instead of confining their forbidden sexual desires to bedroom role-playing, troons think that growing social acceptance of transitioning provides the opportunity to fundamentally change their societal role. Thereby the overbearing, masculine husband crushed by the pressure of male society can take refuge in the role of a submissive trophy wife, etc.

It is beyond narcissistic and selfish, obviously. It completely disregards the established social order, and upends things like one’s relationship with wife, kids, co-workers, and parents. All because they’re unhappy with their place in the world. The more empathetic part of me thinks that if men’s mental health was more of a priority in contemporary society, males going through profound identify crises would be treated and they would feel less of a need to troon out. But who knows.

 

[Peaches Demure]

Not the most physically repulsive specimen around per se, but a fine example of the delusion of these dudes.

r/transpassing - An old timer (57) dreaming about passing someday🙏🤞obviously my faceapp goal in lower left 15 1/2 months HRT....have a wonderful weekend!

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[sadbird]

Not the most physically repulsive specimen around per se, but a fine example of the delusion of these dudes.

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r/transpassing - An old timer (57) dreaming about passing someday🙏🤞obviously my faceapp goal in lower left 15 1/2 months HRT....have a wonderful weekend!

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Is this not some obvious late life crisis shit? It's always older men envisioning themselves as young women, and then there's the whole sissy thing... I just wish we could get some real research on the topic.

 

[Non-Expert!]

[1] I get the sense that the troon desire to switch gender roles resembles the need some men feel to engage in submissive sexual fantasies. The dominant, authoritative boss longing to serve in a sexually submissive role is an old trope, but I’ve read enough about BDSM to know that it holds true in many cases.

[2] Instead of confining their forbidden sexual desires to bedroom role-playing, troons think that growing social acceptance of transitioning provides the opportunity to fundamentally change their societal role. Thereby the overbearing, masculine husband crushed by the pressure of male society can take refuge in the role of a submissive trophy wife, etc.

[3] It is beyond narcissistic and selfish, obviously. It completely disregards the established social order, and upends things like one’s relationship with wife, kids, co-workers, and parents. All because they’re unhappy with their place in the world.

[4] The more empathetic part of me thinks that if men’s mental health was more of a priority in contemporary society, males going through profound identify crises would be treated and they would feel less of a need to troon out. But who knows.

Numbered your points.

1. It is carnavalesque. Traditionally you had about a week of inverted roles to allow people to "blow off stream" (el mundo al revés). And then life would return to its normal rhythm. That was the purpose of Carnaval, and that particular outlet as a way of coping with a rigid heirarchal society, is fading.

2. Bedroom role play has also been a way of releasing tension and anxiety related to one's role in a stratified society. The allure of it, has been is in its confinement in the private space. Although we have the technology to allow the husband to live out his fantasy of being a trophy wife, what purpose does this serve, if he becomes, at best, burdened by the trappings of incomplete masculinity and unreachable femininity?

3. Their behavior turns everybody around them into orphans, widows or disgruntled advocates.

4. The men themselves need to recognize their own mental health problems. I think that some of it comes down to this archaic notion of women being basically emotionally tender and inferior males. They might want to escape.

Academic had sex swap surgery and changed his mind at the last minute

Richard Hoskins flew to Bangkok in late 2016 for the first in a series of operations to change sex from male to female. In March 2017 he was finally pushed into thinking for himself.

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[Peaches Demure]

I get the sense that the troon desire to switch gender roles resembles the need some men feel to engage in submissive sexual fantasies. The dominant, authoritative boss longing to serve in a sexually submissive role is an old trope, but I’ve read enough about BDSM to know that it holds true in many cases.

Instead of confining their forbidden sexual desires to bedroom role-playing, troons think that growing social acceptance of transitioning provides the opportunity to fundamentally change their societal role. Thereby the overbearing, masculine husband crushed by the pressure of male society can take refuge in the role of a submissive trophy wife, etc.

It is beyond narcissistic and selfish, obviously. It completely disregards the established social order, and upends things like one’s relationship with wife, kids, co-workers, and parents. All because they’re unhappy with their place in the world. The more empathetic part of me thinks that if men’s mental health was more of a priority in contemporary society, males going through profound identify crises would be treated and they would feel less of a need to troon out. But who knows.

I've done some casual/layman's research into BDSM and the culture around it myself; Staci Newmarh's book Playing on the Edge is a really interesting foray into this "lifestyle". I especially liked her take on why there appears to be a larger-than-chance overlap between BDSM culture and other marginal groups.

I'm familiar with the "traditionally masculine" CEO type who's looking to create balance in his life by engaging in debasing acts as a BDSM sub (often with a paid Domme providing the humiliation) and I'm also aware that 'forced feminization' is often a thing in these sessions... But I honestly can't see how anyone can go from "occasional bedroom activities" to full-time troon. At least not in the numbers we're seeing today. It's hard to feel sympathy for the people who do this, when I can't even cognitively understand the driving factors behind such a decision. Troonism is really fuelled by a perfect storm of addiction, narcissism, delusion, and boundless entitlement. But how do you become such a cumbrain that you think living out your fetish 24/7 is a good idea? That part I haven't worked out.

 

[Non-Expert!]

I've done some casual/layman's research into BDSM and the culture around it myself; Staci Newmarh's book Playing on the Edge is a really interesting foray into this "lifestyle". I especially liked her take on why there appears to be a larger-than-chance overlap between BDSM culture and other marginal groups.

I'm familiar with the "traditionally masculine" CEO type who's looking to create balance in his life by engaging in debasing acts as a BDSM sub (often with a paid Domme providing the humiliation) and I'm also aware that 'forced feminization' is often a thing in these sessions... But I honestly can't see how anyone can go from "occasional bedroom activities" to full-time troon. At least not in the numbers we're seeing today. It's hard to feel sympathy for the people who do this, when I can't even cognitively understand the driving factors behind such a decision. Troonism is really fuelled by a perfect storm of addiction, narcissism, delusion, and boundless entitlement. But how do you become such a cumbrain that you think living out your fetish 24/7 is a good idea? That part I haven't worked out.

The only suggestion I can come up with, is that "today's generations" are not as equipped to compartmentalize as "earlier generations" who might pay a dominatrix or whatever. Even 10-20 years ago, there wasn't this "support group" culture on the internet, at least on mainstream platforms.

As far as going "full time" these guys feed off each other, and the social cost of it is not as high as it was earlier.

 

[Real Mutha For Ya]

This creature has a touch of the axe murderer about him:
The fucking state of it


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[Daddy's Little Kitten]

The teeth...
Dear lord.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

"Lesbian attracted to males" is as much of an oxymoron as "married bachelor". It's a semantic impossibility.

Current year rules lawyering overrides those semantics if it enables someone to get their dick bent, like the dude that was poly but still in the closet so please don't tell his wife. A decade ago we would have called that cheating or fucking around, but now it's a protected sexual identity.

 

[?worlds gone madz?]

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What a Fucking horrorbag. Yep that lipstick makes you all woman. And I love the zit.
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That is truly horrific. You can smell the stench of BO from the photo! No doubt an adult baby fetishist with a nappy full of shit. I think this thing is in the top 5 most horrific.

 

[francesco]

A reminder that this is a thread for showcasing physically repulsive specimen. If you want to have a serious discussion about the transgender question ,go here.
Also, a friendly suggestion @Real Mutha For Ya : don't just post their twitter profile pic. Dig a little through their profiles to find a full picture.

With that out of the way...

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[Paul Barker!]

Damn, genesis p-orridge looks rough. Have some hons, hon!

Mtfselfietrain is so good

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Is this not some obvious late life crisis shit? It's always older men envisioning themselves as young women, and then there's the whole sissy thing... I just wish we could get some real research on the topic.

Kiwifarms is probably the closest we're going to get to any real anthropological research on this topic. Think about that.