Motion Picture Academy Pushing for Rules Limiting Streaming Titles - Spielberg Turns into Old Man Yelling at Cloud

Kari Kamiya said:
The MPAA has an unmitigated hate-boner for indie films, which is typically what the documentary is about, but there's a lot of horror stories about the MPAA fucking over indie films. The one I'm most familiar with is with what happened to Saints and Soldiers, which was one of the first to get some mainstream attention brought to the mistreatment of indie films. The filmmakers were shooting for a PG-13 rating, but when it was getting rated, it got an R-rating that baffled them because it's not all that violent; there's depictions of war, but it's not Saving Private Ryan violent. But they gave it an R-rating for one scene in which a main character got fatally shot. Just the one scene for "personalized violence".
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There was also how the MPAA gave the first Appleseed movie an R-rating just because some random soldier's head explodes in a second sometime in like the first five minutes, and that's it. Everything else is PG-13 appropriate. They hate foreign films, too, much like the Academy Awards. Hollywood owes a lot of its existence to foreign filmmakers, but they do everything they can to sweep them under the rug whenever they think they can get away with it.

The whole association as it stands today is fucking bullshit and they don't try to hide it. It's been needing a reform for years at this point.
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It's been well documented. The MPAA is just a an extension of the studio's control of the game. Trey Parker and Matt Stone had tons of problems getting Orgazmo (their 2nd feature) an R rating even though there's no hard core sex, the cursing is pretty low key in comparison to the South Park movie, and there's a brief tit shot that's a blink and you miss it moment. The MPAA wanted this scene gone:


Trey and Matt refused.

Meanwhile, compare this to something like Boogie Nights that came out around the same time and you realize how much of a joke the MPAA is.
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
The MPAA has an unmitigated hate-boner for indie films, which is typically what the documentary is about, but there's a lot of horror stories about the MPAA fucking over indie films. The one I'm most familiar with is with what happened to Saints and Soldiers, which was one of the first to get some mainstream attention brought to the mistreatment of indie films. The filmmakers were shooting for a PG-13 rating, but when it was getting rated, it got an R-rating that baffled them because it's not all that violent; there's depictions of war, but it's not Saving Private Ryan violent. But they gave it an R-rating for one scene in which a main character got fatally shot. Just the one scene for "personalized violence".
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There was also how the MPAA gave the first Appleseed movie an R-rating just because some random soldier's head explodes in a second sometime in like the first five minutes, and that's it. Everything else is PG-13 appropriate. They hate foreign films, too, much like the Academy Awards. Hollywood owes a lot of its existence to foreign filmmakers, but they do everything they can to sweep them under the rug whenever they think they can get away with it.

The whole association as it stands today is fucking bullshit and they don't try to hide it. It's been needing a reform for years at this point.
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The MPAA exists solely to protect large American film studios. That's it. Its to limit competition from everyone and everywhere else. Orgazmo getting an NC-17 is a fucking travesty.

The MPAA is structured basically like the Mafia thanks to Jack Valenti. If you're one of the big studios (The Five Families and Italiano), you can pretty much do what you want. You some Mic bastard or some French faggot or even worse, some Americano fuck from the midwest? Best be dropping your pants boy, because they're going to fuck your shit in. They don't even pretend to play fair.

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Oh and don't even THINK of trying for 'Unrated'.

You basically cannot advertise, movie theaters can outright refuse to run you, they will fuck you into the dirt. Its even worse than NC-17.
 
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The MPAA exists solely to protect large American film studios. That's it. Its to limit competition from everyone and everywhere else. Orgazmo getting an NC-17 is a fucking travesty.

The MPAA is structured basically like the Mafia thanks to Jack Valenti. If you're one of the big studios (The Five Families and Italiano), you can pretty much do what you want. You some Mic bastard or some French faggot or even worse, some Americano fuck from the midwest? Best be dropping your pants boy, because they're going to fuck your shit in. They don't even pretend to play fair.

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Oh and don't even THINK of trying for 'Unrated'.

You basically cannot advertise, movie theaters can outright refuse to run you, they will fuck you into the dirt. Its even worse than NC-17.
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You're mostly right. However, under Valenti they were "moral guardians" and took a stand against horror films. Even horror films put out by the big studios. There's many a tale of that. Horror fans had to wait about 30 years to see the uncut version of the Slasher classic My Bloody Valentine.

Valenti did make himself out to be the savior of American cinema because before the MPAA movies could be banned by region. I know this was the case with 1932's Freaks. So Valenti came in and created the MPAA as a buffer against movie censorship. Of course, he sold out for the studios and fucked over indies.
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
The MPAA has an unmitigated hate-boner for indie films, which is typically what the documentary is about, but there's a lot of horror stories about the MPAA fucking over indie films. The one I'm most familiar with is with what happened to Saints and Soldiers, which was one of the first to get some mainstream attention brought to the mistreatment of indie films. The filmmakers were shooting for a PG-13 rating, but when it was getting rated, it got an R-rating that baffled them because it's not all that violent; there's depictions of war, but it's not Saving Private Ryan violent. But they gave it an R-rating for one scene in which a main character got fatally shot. Just the one scene for "personalized violence".
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There was also how the MPAA gave the first Appleseed movie an R-rating just because some random soldier's head explodes in a second sometime in like the first five minutes, and that's it. Everything else is PG-13 appropriate. They hate foreign films, too, much like the Academy Awards. Hollywood owes a lot of its existence to foreign filmmakers, but they do everything they can to sweep them under the rug whenever they think they can get away with it.

The whole association as it stands today is fucking bullshit and they don't try to hide it. It's been needing a reform for years at this point.
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I remember them giving Dark City and Paprika an R-rating, only because they thought the violence was weird.

Interesting thing to note, after Warner Bros acquired New Line Cinema, only then they actually returned their phone calls for ratings appeal. They could never do that when they were an independent entity.

Shit, something like Saving Private Ryan SHOULD have got an NC-17 rating, but because Spielberg is buddies with the MPAA, it got an R-rating.
 
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EDIT:
Oh and don't even THINK of trying for 'Unrated'.

You basically cannot advertise, movie theaters can outright refuse to run you, they will fuck you into the dirt. Its even worse than NC-17.
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It's interesting, Super was released in theaters just unrated and it only got a theatrical release in about 40 theaters across America. It did get an R rating, but only when it hit home video.

But Unrated is actually a better choice than NC-17, Lars Von Trier's Nymphomaniac actually got an NC-17 rating but Magnolia Pictures (Mark Cuban's distribution company) realized they can release it in more theaters if they just gave it an Unrated release, so they released it Unrated in the states.
 
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