Movies that you suddenly "get" after multiple viewings

Kill List for me. I mean, don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed it on the firat watch, but on the re-watch when you have a better understanding of who they are killing and why they are reacting like that, it's fun on a whole other level.
 
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Run Lola Run. For an 80 minute movie where a lot of stuff repeats, there's a lot left vague or things that are not directly said or shown that make sense when you think about it and make your own guesses.
 
I don't think I've ever rewatched a movie I didn't initially like. I have however gained more appreciation for movies I liked already after rewatching. Blade Runner, The Shining, and The Godfather were better on a rewatch. Sometimes knowing where the movie is going allows you to appreciate the finer details more.
 
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The Empire Strikes Back is about characters torn between love and duty.
In every case the characters ultimately follow the dictates of their heart's desire, resulting in their spiritual death.

>Han knows he needs to pay off his bounty to Jabba the Hutt, but he chooses to stay with Leia because he loves her.
This leads to his being captured by the Empire and handed to Boba Fett.

>Luke needs to train with Yoda on Dagobah and become a Jedi, but he chooses to fly away and save his friends at Cloud City.
This leads to his confrontation with Vader and learning the truth of his heritage. Yet, he loses the fight and nearly dies.

>Leia refuses to admit her feelings for Han and, instead, attends to her role as leader within the Rebel Alliance.
As she spends time with Han aboard the Falcon, she learns how to be less of an ice queen and,
in Cloud City, she eventually admits that she loves him right before he is turned into a popsicle.

>Lando betrays Han to the Empire to ensure Cloud City is free from Imperial subjugation.
However, he eventually relents and chooses to save Leia and Chewbacca at the cost of everything he had in Cloud City.

>Darth Vader repeatedly kills his own officers for failing in the line of duty. Yet, after his fight with Luke, Vader announces his bid to betray the Empire and usurp the Emperor.
Vader tells Luke of his heritage, attempting to convert him to his cause. However, Luke rejects him and summarily escapes.
Because of this, Vader also fails to secure the Falcon at the very end and he walks off stage, presumably to be laid out by the Emperor.
 
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I really disliked Mulholland Drive the first time I saw it. But then I read that in-depth essay written by the Incredible Hulk, watched it again, and realized it is brilliant.
 
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Starship Troopers, but only if you've watched all three movies (or just 1&3).

Basically the narrative throughout the three goes from just outright propaganda with what seems like obvious mistakes throwing lives away for a facade...

But if you watch the remaining two, the irony is that the Federation was actually completely noble in their causes and, while extremely propaganda filled in all aspects of society, is actuall kinda the most likely way humans will end up in an actual based on our world Utopia. Everyone is well fed, protected by law, and has their needs provided to. No one is forced to fight. Yes the Federation is hanging a few dozen people here and there but their population is in the tens of billions. It's not like they're mass shooting civilians. They have a near perfect society and most people would probably see 12 hang than 12 billion suffer. Also the bugs really were evil. The Federation was right.

The validation of the Federation really does go unnoticed as it's a throwaway scene in the grand-scheme of the franchise however the interaction in the scene involving the console for the "planet cracker" and scenes with the newly appointed field Marshall proves that the Federation wasn't lying; and they are fairly intelligent in using their propaganda wing as part of the war effort. It took 20 years of watching the films on and off to realize this.

Despite the redditors that review this movie and their opinions of the philosophy... just like it was in the book, the Federation was always based and correct.
 
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I did a whole deep dive on wtf was going on in Mulholland Drive and I dunno, I guess I still don't like it that much after watching it a couple of times.
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Back when IMDB had a forum and you could make comments on the movie page, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire had extensive discussions of WTF was actually going on. Sadly the forums and comments were killed off before I could even scratch the surface. I have no idea if any of it was saved. I would hope that if you are going to have such autistic discussion you'd be autistic enough to save some of it.

I watched both Mulholland Drive and the TV pilot. There are only marginally different. I get the gist of the story. It's about jealousy and wanting to be somebody else. But why is the girl from Mulholland Drive seen at the end of Inland Empire? What's the link with the rabbits? I watched "More Things That Happened". Which is over an hour of cut Inland Empire scenes vaguely stitched together. Plus several David Lynch short films. Some of which are vaguely related. Like the one about burning a hole in the slip to see into another world. It's all a very strange experience. I think David Lynch has said that even he isn't sure what Inland Empire is about.

I think the easiest film to understand is Lost Highway. Because it's an OJ allegory. The main character is guilty as fuck. That's why Pete is so innocent and naive and gets led astray by a bad woman. He's the good alter ego. He would never intentionally kill anyone. That guy that busted his head open was an accident. Pete is a good guy and not a murderer. Just like OJ.🤪

Also, Gary Busy was awesome.
 
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Also none of them, because I don't believe in the notion of somehow enjoying something all of the sudden after multiple watches. I should be able to enjoy and understand the gist of a movie, show, etc. the first time around. If I can't, then what's the point?
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People grow and change, life happens, things have different perspectives. Eyes Wide Shut is an excellent example because you could accept it as a marriage drama with thriller elements or you could accept it as a full on expose on the Illuminati and elite billionaire rapist pedophiles. And both interpretations would be seen as equally valid.
 
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verissimus said:
Also none of them, because I don't believe in the notion of somehow enjoying something all of the sudden after multiple watches. I should be able to enjoy and understand the gist of a movie, show, etc. the first time around. If I can't, then what's the point?
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You've probably seen movies as a kid that you didn't understand. But if you watch them now you might get it. Try a few and see how you feel.
 
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I still don't get the newest one. I think Anno just went completely off the deep end because he wanted to be done with the whole franchise once and for all.

Although for most of it I kept thinking of a certain Agent Smith line: "They're not out yet..."
IMO, all four of the new films take place before the close of EoE.
 
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