Muse - What are they, really?

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teriyakiburns

teriyakiburns

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Everyone remembers Knights of Cydonia


Or Supermassive Black Hole


... and if you don't, you're a barbarian/based/ (delete as applicable).

I was mostly prompted to this by the release of their latest album, which features (amongst other things) the "potentially anti-masking" track, Compliance, poorly veiled references to the great reset, and their usual brand of revolutionary politics and ripping lyrics.

IMO, it's decent. Compliance and Won't Stand Down are a bit of an anthem for the sort of people who think everything's gone to shit in the last few years. More than before, I mean. The final track, We Are Fucking Fucked, is a fair summation of the future, if that's what you believe.

The rest sounds like someone doing an impression of The Darkness doing an impression of Queen. But decent, even so.

So, favourite Muse song or album? Did they really stop being Real Muse after their first four singles? Are they just an angst sink for the millennial generation? What is the deal with the Bruins marching band?
 
Absolution is my personal favorite album although the hullabaloo soundtrack has a soft spot in my heart.

Favorite song is probably Thoughts of a Dying Atheist, Starlight, or Stockholm Syndrome.

Stopped sometime after Black Holes and Revolations.
 
I can't tell if Matt Bellamy has been on a LARP for the past 15 years or if he's genuinely blackpilled by conspiracy stuff.

That said, I'm quite partial to Muse's brand of doomer stadium rock. Will have to check their new album out.
 
Frank D'arbo said:
Stopped sometime after Black Holes and Revolations.
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They had a bit of a low point with Drones, but 2nd law before it, and simulation theory afterwards were both decent enough.

Pee Cola said:
I can't tell if Matt Bellamy has been on a LARP for the past 15 years or if he's genuinely blackpilled by conspiracy stuff.
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A little of both? Or would that be a cop-out? A lot of the lyrics superficially read as generic revolutionary larping, or just straight-up conspiracy-mongering, but there's enough weird shit in there, just under the surface, to make you stop and wonder if he's poking fun at someone.
 
Pee Cola said:
I can't tell if Matt Bellamy has been on a LARP for the past 15 years or if he's genuinely blackpilled by conspiracy stuff.
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Nah, he still releases the same talking points as every other celebrity out there. You know, shitting on Trump and the Tories, defending the Remain side of Brexit, et cetera. At this point, I can only assume the conspiracy stuff is just a gimmick. If they hit an actual nerve, the papers wouldn't give them the time of the day.

I tried to get into them not too long ago, but couldn't. I do love me some well-constructed progressions and harmonies, and as such I thought I could enjoy Muse, but... I just couldn't. Maybe it has to do with the insufferable fanbase they do have.
 

I was a Muse fan and listen to the majority of their music when I was 16/17. I tried to listen to their newer stuff (Simulation Theory) and didn't really like it but it's better than the shit I hear on the top 20 radio.
 
I genuienly think Matt is a bit of a conspiracy theorist Its been a theme to the songs in earlier albums. That said I prefer their older and B-side stuff to anything released after "The Resistance" Still rather listen to them than anything on the radio.
 
Overhyped faggots past their sell by date

Only marginally less annoying than Coldplay
 
They're a pretty good classic Radiohead clone. Since I'm somewhat of an oldfag, my favorite is probably Muscle Museum.
Like with many alternative/indie/britpop bands, they usually fizzle out in like 2 albums.
They're good live, which is a rare achievement these days.
Overall, I think it's worth listening to their older stuff.
PS: speculating about political inclinations is nearly useless with celebs that can still milk some money and have large fanbases. Only the ones that no longer care, like Morrisey, will tell you how they feel. Rest assured, many of these older dudes are probably not very progressive, but the ideology is a requirement to participate in Hollywood-adjacent circles these days,
 
Compliance seems apropos right now.
 
I still think Map of the Problematique is amazing. But somehow I was never grabbed as much by any other songs. So overall I think they're ok. Not quite my sound.

Another good thing about this song is that when SJWs happened, and I could not bear the cringe of typing out "problematic" even ironically, I could write "le problematique" instead. I prefer to make my contempt for things and folks as unambiguous as possible.
 
The intro to "Fury" is one of the greatest intros to any rock song just because of that fucking guitar octave/wah pedal thing. I need more songs like that (like the solo from Audioslave's Like A Stone)

 
I haven’t listened to anything they’ve made after The 2nd Law but I enjoyed that a lot. The Resistance and Black Holes and Revelations are both good too.

Panic Station is a banger.
 
I like their new album, have been a fan since The Resistance and really enjoy their older stuff. Absolution and Origin of Symmetry are brilliant, Showbiz era B-sides are among my favourites, enjoyed Drones and Simulation Theory. Not a fan of Matt's increasingly cheesy crooning over plinky pianos with his weird deep timbre and warbling falsetto as time goes on, I appreciate him more as a guitarist with stadium vocals.

Matt is legitimately a conspiracy theorist, openly enjoyed and discussed David Icke's material, and always has been in that realm of schizo, but he toes the line to remain marketable. Unfortunately the whole "rise up and fight against the fat cats" narrative looks ridiculous when he's an actual wealthy celebrity at this point but at least he says what we're all thinking and I appreciate him verbalising it even in vague terms.

As for what they are, I think they embrace the extremity of their theatrics into strange post-irony territory that makes any blend of genres accessible. The band is Matt's playground, the manifestation of his thoughts and beliefs about the world and his own experiences, and he has a lot of fun with it.
 
A very over rated band. Music for people who don't like music. Like Ed Sheeran.

Their recordings are fucking atrocious. They went in the top studios in the land with the top record producers. All to run it through a fucking distortion pedal in the name of 'Mastering' and 'Limiting' at the very end. For that 'Professional Sound'.

Eh eh.

To be fair to the bloke - that Matt seems a decent fella. He's got guitar innovations 'n sheet. No one has ever heard of them. Those that have don't really like them.

Their music isn't rock. It's not pop. It's also not good. No tunes. Not even nice production that lays out across your speakers at the end of the day. I don't think they have anything going for them at all. But that's just my professional opinion 'n sheet.
 
I think they (or Matt) go(es) far away from just a LARP.
To this point, I can't believe Warner Music has released their track named "The Globalist", along with "Thought Contagion" where the words Final Solution are said twice and there was absolutely no objection to that.

And let's not even mention Supremacy, where they threaten a certain ((( supremacist, child-brainwashing tribe that was never truly emancipated )))

Seriously, I couldn't be more proud of being a fanatic of such a beautifully enigmatic band.
 
Res'ing this thread a bit, but they keep releasing youtube "tracks" in support of their album. Of the more recent ones, Liberation is fucking amazing.
Queen with a fuck the NWO bent.
 
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