Musicians that are also Lolcows?

How /why did he make the list?

All time winner was GG Allin. Terrible artist using offensive actions and languages to draw a crowd, he would suicide bait like a 16 year old girl.


Billie Eilish is pretty fucking dumb and annoying, living in a mansion fortnress with 24/7 hired security encouraging people to riot over some bullshit 12 time felon who overdosed.

Paris Hilton as a DJ . I'm going to make a lot of people mad but rave scene died a long time ago and it never took much talent to do that shit ever.


Jerry Springer interviewed "Gwar" and said "hey guys so what's with the crazy outfits? and wild makeup?" and I forget who said it but the answer was "well we were good as musicians but not good enough so when wore crazy shit and that's how we got a record deal" I never hated Gwar or even listed to them but I had respect for what he said, the honesty was just refreshing.

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It's kind of like how some journalist would think they were the first to try to trap Jimmy Buffett by brining up his island image while he lived on Long Island or Martha's Vineyard or whatever posh place us commoners aren't allowed in. He'd just say something along the lines of "I sell a fantasy three times a week, a couple of hours of escapist getaways for people who just want to get away from their lives. The fact that I get paid a lot of money and get to live where I want to doesn't change that at all." I respect that level of honesty far more than I do some hypocritical retort from a musician like Tom Morello giving some meely-mouthed answer when asked about how he can reconcile his desire for Communism with his wealth and all while paying his roadies and techs the least he possibly can.
 
It's kind of like how some journalist would think they were the first to try to trap Jimmy Buffett by brining up his island image while he lived on Long Island or Martha's Vineyard or whatever posh place us commoners aren't allowed in. He'd just say something along the lines of "I sell a fantasy three times a week, a couple of hours of escapist getaways for people who just want to get away from their lives. The fact that I get paid a lot of money and get to live where I want to doesn't change that at all." I respect that level of honesty far more than I do some hypocritical retort from a musician like Tom Morello giving some meely-mouthed answer when asked about how he can reconcile his desire for Communism with his wealth and all while paying his roadies and techs the least he possibly can.

You're talking about Gwar, right?

Well I agree with that. I used to used to listen to Rage Against he Machine, then I realized what epic hypocrites everyone involved were, especially Zach La Rocha. You could buy the Evil Empire Album CD in 1996 for 32.00 adjusted for inflation. I used to think socialists/communists were just lazy ignorant unskilled people. the older I got the more I realized why we had to shoot a lot of them. I never considered Jimmy Buffet a hypocrite, I always saw him as some guy just singing songs about Boomers going on vacation. Tom Morello is allegedly worth 40 million dollars, apparently he does give to charity and such but I couldn't' find evidence of more than 4% of his total net worth. I think the episode Deathlklok does the free show to dodge taxes is a great parody of the entertainment industry earning social credit instead of just giving it to the IRS. You're gonna lose that money anyway might as well make people think you are a good person and sell more albums and tickets.


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Why did Billie Joe Armstrong make the list? I've got tickets to the saviors tour and if they play all their emo shit instead of the energy early albums I'm going to be kind of pissed.

 
Why did Billie Joe Armstrong make the list? I've got tickets to the saviors tour and if they play all their emo shit instead of the energy early albums I'm going to be kind of pissed.

It mostly has to do with his political sperging more than anything else. Even then, he's nowhere near as egregious as the Rage Against The Machine guys, so credit where it's due.
 
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Double-posting since I can't edit, but here's part 2:
Baiting for a sequel to the Vice article? (archive)
:story: coked up much? lmao
Did you happen to archive these? Just found out Blake was back. Haven't had time to dig into the drama yet, but based on the snippets I've seen, he's not changed at all. I don't remember him ever being this combative on social media, but I'm here for it.

Ultimately I don't see this leading anywhere other than Blake chimping out and DFEing everything again. Metallum says he's still signed to a subsidiary label from Prophecy, but I very much doubt they or anybody else (at least anybody reputable) will do business with him.

I'll trawl around later and try to put together a summary detailing his "comeback" and any relevant activity since his last "retirement."

ETA: surprisingly, MetalArchives has zero discussion or mention on their forum of Blake's recent activities. Social media is also very quiet, no discussion on leddit or the assorted blogs that I've checked.

Based on Blake's social media, he's still living in San Diego. Prophecy are also still backing Nachtmystium, which I'm sure will not backfire in any way at all.

He's also claiming that Ken Sorceron (Abigail Williams frontman and somebody I always regarded as a "pick-me" in the extreme metal scene) is performing bass, alongside Andrew Markuszewski (formerly of Lord Mantis) and another guy whose background I can't verify. Worth noting that Drew previously played for Nachtmystium early in their career and again in the mid 10s and was also involved in a project named Lord Mantis alongside ex-Nachtmystium member Charlie Fell. Charlie has had very negative things to say about Judd previously and is also a recovering heroin addict, and had some disagreement with Drew a while ago that left the future of Lord Mantis in limbo.

I sincerely wish I could give Blake the benefit of the doubt, I uniornically like his musical output and consider him a talented artist, but his pattern of behaviour is in line with every other of his attempted redemption arcs.

I'll see if I can find any archive of the "tell-all" videos he posted to YouTube, although I'm not optimistic since it seems that outside of a few sycophants, nobody gives a shit about his "comeback" other than to make a passing joke.
 
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I've got tickets to the saviors tour and if they play all their emo shit instead of the energy early albums I'm going to be kind of pissed.
Their current tour has them playing the entirety of Dookie followed by the entirety of American Idiot, plus a few tunes off their latest album and of course, closing with Time Of Your Life. Make of that what you will.
 
Their current tour has them playing the entirety of Dookie followed by the entirety of American Idiot, plus a few tunes off their latest album and of course, closing with Time Of Your Life. Make of that what you will.


Oof. Brother, please spoiler that next time. It's kind of like you just told me
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the whole time. Doesn't sound sound bad at all if they are playing the entire Dookie album. I did not hate the American Idiot album but, as I stated previously I think it only won the Grammy for political reasons. Obviously I was expecting some of the Saviors album in the show.
 
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I sincerely wish I could give Blake the benefit of the doubt, I uniornically like his musical output and consider him a talented artist, but his pattern of behaviour is in line with every other of his attempted redemption arcs.
Yeah, without power-leveling, I've encountered him IRL and he's a smart, talented, funny guy who can also be a total dickhole and absolutely stereotypical junkie. It would be great if he got and stayed clean, but the rambly defensive lashing-out vibe he's (still) got going on here is very ⚠️⚠️⚠️. (I agree that accusing him of killing his ex who OD'd while he was at an AA meeting is scummy behavior, but flipping out any time someone does it isn't going to make people stop doing it, and is probably 99% of the reason people do it in the first place.)

The cycle of recording and touring has fairly predictable results with him, and he's been doing pretty much the exact same thing over and over again for about 25 years. Outside-the-box thinking serves him well musically and artistically, it would be nice to see him meddle with himself in a positive way.

Like, as a hypothetical scenario, if he got a couple of jobs doing scores for grimy independent horror movies or true crime documentaries where he could apply his artistic sensibilities in service of someone else's vision (rather than being The Frontman™), I could see that having a healthier and happier outcome. Even if it meant kind of eating shit and working for a Youtuber half his age for a while.
 
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Since my previous post mentioning Slushii, he has since then made a track where in the artcover, you can see him inserting himself into a group of 4 cartoon Japanese girls. I promise you, this kike is up there with Chibi on the weeaboo scale.

...and also getting himself into a Gordon Ramsay related show.
 
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I'd the probably say Lee Mavers, frontman of 'The La's'.

The most autistically perfectionist man in indie rock, went through several producers and constant re-recordings within the space of 5 years and countless hunders of thousands of pounds before the record label had enough and took the already completed recordings and finished it. He wasn't too happy with this though, as he disowned it and never made another album as the "first one had to be finished" first.


He would also demand the band to be perfect while playing live, which meant the band would rehearse the same 10-15 songs over and over again for almost a decade. Band members got so fed up with the stagnation that the bassist, John Power, left to form Cast.

Became a recluse, started to do smack, and made a few songs which was leaked on a tape by the end of the 90s. Made occasional appearences in the public, though looked more strung out and performed worse each time.
 
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One that comes to mind is Paul Super Apple (Paul Maraglia). He's this obscure outsider musician who made an EP with the sole purpose of impressing Keith Richards.
It was made around 1984, when Paul would've been 30. The tape consists of Paul, with the voice of a child and an echoey vocal effect, shittly singing about random shit with a jangly guitar playing in the back. Around the end of the EP there's an interlude where Paul breaks down crying to Keith Richards, begging him to call him after he was done listening. This all inspired some to guy call him, pretending to be on Keith's team and get an interview from him.
During the interview Paul comes off as a cocky asshole, saying he has an 186 IQ. And verbosely telling the interviewer he would sue him if he were to ever put his music on the radio without his permission. He thinks this because he was able to trademark his stage name and copyright his music (which I can't find was ever true, and Chris copyrighted Sonichu so this doesn't mean shit). The tape really gained notoriety when Irwin Chusid included his EP to Songs In the Key Z volume 3.
But nowadays, Paul doesn't make music, and is a convicted sex offender with two convictions. He also get's his mugshot updated somewhat regularly.
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Someone on reddit also claims that they used to know him.
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But take this with a grain of salt since this is the same retard who posted this.
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Robert Fripp is a major lolcow. His copyright autism kept King Crimson off of YouTube for years. Until he finally caved and put it on YouTube, he also got Grooveshark shut down.
If you see King Crimson live, they have signs everywhere warning you not to take pictures (you get one chance to take a picture, at the very end). Fripp also stands mostly motionless at the side of the stage like a turboautist with his guitar and some electronic controller. He's obviously a very talented guy, he just has a lot of weird autistic hangups over how he wants his music to be experienced.
 
If you see King Crimson live, they have signs everywhere warning you not to take pictures (you get one chance to take a picture, at the very end). Fripp also stands mostly motionless at the side of the stage like a turboautist with his guitar and some electronic controller. He's obviously a very talented guy, he just has a lot of weird autistic hangups over how he wants his music to be experienced.
Maybe I'm just not a turbo autist, but I never understood artists preventing people from enjoying their art. It must be some kind of brain thing. My cousin was an artist for a major game company, and he was furious when his mom shared a picture of his art on her Facebook page. Many artists who are very talented have shared fripps autism, including Prince Garth Brooks, Don Henly, etc. I'm sure there's more, but what I'm curious about is why? Why would these talented people hate their fans enjoying music?
 
I still think that KISS are the biggest lolcows in music history bar none.
Robert Fripp is a major lolcow. His copyright autism kept King Crimson off of YouTube for years. Until he finally caved and put it on YouTube, he also got Grooveshark shut down.
Fripp invented his own tuning and also delivered us this masterpiece:

I wouldn't call him a lolcow but he's adjacent. His music can be great and he has heaps of talent but, with a lack of music theory from my part, his melodies sound the same, just sped up or down.
 
I still think that KISS are the biggest lolcows in music history bar none.
Gene Simmons aka Chaim Witz definitely, but what did the others do? Most of the dumb shit like explicitly admitting to be in it for the money and groupies and the copyright bullshit and making everything from KISS coffins to KISS condoms are from him. I don't even think the latter is dumb, I mean it's silly yeah but KISS has made a fuckton of money off that and inspired a legion of boomers to hoard KISS merchandise.
 
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Gene Simmons aka Chaim Witz definitely, but what did the others do? Most of the dumb shit like explicitly admitting to be in it for the money and groupies and the copyright bullshit and making everything from KISS coffins to KISS condoms are from him. I don't even think the latter is dumb, I mean it's silly yeah but KISS has made a fuckton of money off that and inspired a legion of boomers to hoard KISS merchandise.
I think I've gone into it in this thread but Gene is actually the most sane one. All he does is your average poor jew who made it big shit. Off the top of my head:​
  • Paul: Narcissistic singer that got that stupid ass chin surgery, is missing an ear and has a complex about it, makes burnt pizzas for idiot KISS fans to pay for, paints awful art to sell to rich people, etc. He had been using playback in his last few shows and his voice got shot extremely badly, even for hard rock/metal singer standards.​
He was also the Phantom in a Toronto production of The Phantom of the Opera. I'm not a theaterfag so its up to you to decide, but he allegedly did a horrible job.
  • Ace: Shitfaced guitarist who threw away a decent solo career, couldn't get in shape for a guest spot in End of the Road shows, is shacked up with a woman a few decades his junior who is clearly gold digging, and tried to make a quirky Osbournes-esque webshow. He got into a spat recently with the coproducer of his latest album 10000 Volts, where they spent months debating how much Ace actually did.​
  • Peter: Legendary nine inch cock raging manlet who allegedly beat up his wife (who is also a mess of her own right), had an autistic gun collection, played up as the tough guy of the band, and used to regularly clash with other KISS members and shittalk them. He's also the only one that's made solo music that I enjoy and I recommend to check his first two albums out.​
  • Vinnie: A lolcow through and through. Apart from getting fired for being an obnoxious asshole from KISS, he made a few solo albums in the 80s that barely made the charts. He turned into a recluse, recorded some awful shredding albums like Speedball Jamm and morphed into an old grandma. After disappearing for years and leaving people worried about his whereabouts, pictures surfaced of his old home being a dilapidated mess.​
People thought something horrible had happened to him but then he showed up and played in a few conventions, announced a comeback album and some tour dates. Eventually he never released the album, didn't make most of the tour dates, and got relegated to hotels and other lesser venues. He began to build a reputation as a scam artist, and to this day KISSFaq makes fun of him for serving crock pot and pinwheels, made by one of his fans, mind you, as food for his gay 50-ish people "concerts". Now he uses sockpuppets in his own Facebook group to prop himself up and bans people who criticize him. The group is pay only mind you.​


This is of course apart from all the shitflinging they've had since 1975. If I ever get the time I'll make a thread on them. In the meantime though KISSFaq documented pretty much everything about them, so there's a rabbit hole to be explored for years to come, as they will likely never stop acting like lolcows. Except Peter, who seems to have mellowed out somehow.
 
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