My Advice: Stop Jacking Off - Warning: Moralistic Sperging

[Isaac]

That reminds me of a fake Buddhist quote: “Each morning we are born again. What we do today is what matters most.”

I got it from C.S. Lewis in his book Mere Christianity. That quote reminds me of a Luther quote.

What does baptizing with water indicate?
It indicates that the Old Adam in us should be daily contrition and repentance be drowned and die with all sins and evil desires, and that a new man should daily emerge and arise to live before God in righteousness and purity forever.

Are you talking about porn? Or just physical stimuli? Or dirty thoughts?

Pornography, physical stimuli, dirty thoughts.

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: but I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Matthew 5:27-30

 

[Groon]

I haven't watched porn in months but no way i will stop of jerk off.

Jerk off is a gift from God.

 

[Dude Snakes]

And for the weebs out there...
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But for real you can't jerk off if you're too exhausted from lifting.

In another manga/anime series (Baki the Grappler) having sex increases the main characters strength.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

A prohibition against masturbation isn't purtianical; it's been observed for the entirety of church history, across the sects.

Churches can have misconceptions, which is why there's so many sects.

Also one thing I don't get about the "fapping is sinful" is why would God make fapping possible - and make it feel good and easy to access - and then condemn people to hell for doing it? And I believe Christ was speaking against wanting to commit adultery with another woman when one is married, not mere arousal. Not all arousal is good, of course - like pedophilia - but not all is bad either.

And fapping is the same as interpersonal sex? I doubt that.

obedience is the highest virtue

Sounds like a very unpleasant being to deal with if that instead of something like love is the highest virtue.

 

[Isaac]

Churches can have misconceptions, which is why there's so many sects.

Yes, but there is essential doctrine which all sects agree upon ( EX: the Trinity and Christ's bodily resurrection.) Every sect, every church father and reformer believed that masturbation was a sin. Even JW's and Mormons believe that it is wrong, and preach against it.

Also one thing I don't get about the "fapping is sinful" is why would God make fapping possible - and make it feel good and easy to access

Masturbation is possible, because intimacy between a husband and wife is possible. We have the ability to choose between good and evil, and God destroying masturbation for the sake of convenience would erase our ability to choose Him. And whereas it is natural, and evident, that man was created to be as one with his wife, it is not evident that his members were created for eachother. Whereas it is evident that man was created as to be one with his wife, it is not evident that man was created to be one with another man. Sexual relations within marriage are the essential good, masturbation and sodomy are perversions of that good.

and then condemn people to hell for doing it?

Nobody is condemned for it. Only unbelief.

And I believe Christ was speaking against wanting to commit adultery with another woman when one is married, not mere arousal.

Would it be sinless if a man were to lust for another woman, while unmarried? Mere arousal is fine, that is not falling to temptation. The sin is virtually defiling that woman in your mind, through masturbation and thought.

obedience is the highest virtue

Sounds like a very unpleasant being to deal with if that instead of something like love is the highest virtue.

True and perfect obedience is a virtue above all virtues, and this is no work, however great it may be, that may take place or be preformed without this virtue, and even the very least of works,whether it be saying or listening to Mass, praying, meditating, or whatever you can think of, is more useful done when it is preformed in true obedience.

-Meister Eckhart

 

[Mothra1988]

every nofap post ever grossly reeks of projection, especially when they act like cutting it out was some 180 that made a girl listen to them talk or something. Its especially cringe when it goes to "i started to respect women and not see them as sex objects" like it doesn't reek of issues with isolation more than seeing pov blowjob videos make you see an entire gender as objects.

i mean i like to laugh at people who make their online personality "gooning" but damn some people need to fix their own issues, and banning internet pornography won't solve them.

This guy still views women as things, he just probably bought into a 4chan meme that not masturbating will turn him into an Aryan super man:

Like, why on earth should I enjoy it when women forget their role in society as mothers and homemakers. I mean I'm always Mr. Traditional values. I always say, and indeed I do, that I want a woman who is submissive to me in the proper Christian manner. Not so I may abuse her but rather that I may lead her to Heaven as all spouses are supposed to do.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Trinity

Not all sects agree on even that. The LDS (Mormon) think there's literal 3 separate gods, Protestants believe in a "3-yet-1" way, while at least one sect (New Church or "Swedenborgianism") teaches that the Trinity is 3 different aspects of one being - like mind, body, and actions. Also in the early days of Christianity, there were very wildly differing beliefs (and books of the Bible), until politics led to Catholicism being mainstream in Western Europe (before Protestantism emerged).

Also not all sects believe masturbation is inherently sinful.

Among the world's religions, views on masturbation vary widely. Some religions view it as a spiritually detrimental practice, some see it as not spiritually detrimental and others take a situational view.

T.J. Wray explains what the Bible actually states (and does not state) about masturbation: "Returning to the Levitical list of sexual taboos, curiously missing from the list is any mention of masturbation."[13] She then goes on to discuss Genesis 38 and Leviticus 15, concluding that "None of this, however, represent a clear condemnation of masturbation."[13]

Carl L. Jech states that "Masturbation is never mentioned in the Bible".[11] M.K. Malan and Vern Bullough have stated that "nowhere in the Bible is there a clear unchallenged reference to masturbation", and that "masturbation is not mentioned in the Bible or Book of Mormon".[12]

(Religious views on masturbation - Wikipedia)

And like I said, not all sexual thoughts are bad, and I doubt all fapping is somehow some horrible unnatural violation of sexuality. Such thinking can be mentally abusive.

As for the authoritarian idea that "obedience is the highest virtue", that seemed to have emerged from monarchs of the past using religion to claim that the authority they wielded - corrupt or not - was a "divine right", so of course religion could preach that. I doubt people before civilization thought "obedience is the highest virtue"...

 

[Montalbane]

Couple of three things OP.

1)Focus on how ugly porn is

2) Chimps in cages masturbate a loy

3) think of how ugly porn fans are.

Thats it you're cured without bothering god or your wife

 

[Isaac]

Not all sects agree on even that. The LDS (Mormon) think there's literal 3 separate gods, Protestants believe in a "3-yet-1" way, while at least one sect (New Church or "Swedenborgianism") teaches that the Trinity is 3 different aspects of one being - like mind, body, and actions. Also in the early days of Christianity, there were very wildly differing beliefs (and books of the Bible), until politics led to Catholicism being mainstream in Western Europe (before Protestantism emerged).

Mormons aren't Christian, they are apostates. And the conventional version of the Trinity is as universal as it is, because it is correct and true. The Ecumenical Creeds were codified by the Church Fathers and are completely distinct from modern Roman Catholic doctrine.

As for the authoritarian idea that "obedience is the highest virtue", that seemed to have emerged from monarchs of the past using religion to claim that the authority they wielded - corrupt or not - was a "divine right", so of course religion could preach that. I doubt people before civilization thought "obedience is the highest virtue"...

Eckhart was talking about spiritual faith, which is synonymous with obedience. Luther, our beloved reformer of the church, preached complete obedience to God, while also denying Papal supremacy.

27 Furthermore, it is taught on our part that it is necessary to do good works, not that we should trust to merit grace by them, but because it is the will of God. 28 It is only by faith that forgiveness of sins is apprehended, and that, for nothing. 29 And because through faith the Holy Ghost is received, hearts are renewed and endowed with new affections, so as to be able to bring forth good works. 30 For Ambrose says: Faith is the mother of a good will and right doing. 31 For man’s powers without the Holy Ghost are full of ungodly affections, and are too weak to do works which are good in God’s sight. 32 Besides, they are in the power of the devil who impels men to divers sins, 33 to ungodly opinions, to open crimes. This we may see in the philosophers, who, although they endeavored to live an honest life could not succeed, 34 but were defiled with many open crimes. Such is the feebleness of man when he is without faith and without the Holy Ghost, and governs himself only by human strength.

35 Hence it may be readily seen that this doctrine is not to be charged with prohibiting good works, but rather the more to be commended, because it shows how we are enabled to do good works. 36 For without faith human nature can in no wise do the works of the First or of the Second Commandment. 37 Without faith it does not call upon God, nor expect anything from God, nor bear the cross, but seeks, and trusts in, man’s help. 38 And thus, when there is no faith and trust in God all manner of lusts and human devices rule in the heart. 39 Wherefore Christ said, John 15:5: Without Me ye can do nothing; 40 and the Church sings:

Lacking Thy divine favor,

There is nothing found in man,

Naught in him is harmless.

Augsburg Confession, Article XX, 27-40.

What the Hearers Owe Their Pastors​

The Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel. 1 Cor. 9:14

Anyone who receives instruction in the word must share all good things with his instructor. Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Gal. 6:6–7

The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, “Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain,” and “The worker deserves his wages.” 1 Tim. 5:17–18

We ask you, brothers, to respect those who work hard among you, who are over you in the Lord and who admonish you. Hold them in the highest regard in love because of their work. Live in peace with each other. 1 Thess. 5:12–13

Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you. Heb. 13:17

Of Civil Government​

Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrong-doer. Rom. 13:1–4

Of Citizens​

Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s. Matt. 22:21

It is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. Rom. 13:5–7

I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone—for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior. 1 Tim. 2:1–3

Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good. Titus 3:1

Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 1 Peter 2:13–14

-Luther's Small Catechism, Table of Duties

 

[byuu]

God needs to stop watching me masturbate.
Fucking weirdo.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Mormons aren't Christian, they are apostates.

>apostate: noun; a person who forsakes his religion, cause, party, etc.
>Christian: adjective; of, relating to, or derived from Jesus Christ or His teachings - noun; a person who exemplifies in his or her life the teachings of Christ
>Mormon church is literally called "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints"
lol

Your religious fapfest has no power here.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

What if I abstain from masturbation because I find the constant urges arousing? Can nofap become a fetish?

 

[ITK]

Also one thing I don't get about the "fapping is sinful" is why would God make fapping possible - and make it feel good and easy to access - and then condemn people to hell for doing it?

Are you serious? By that logic, if God didn't want men shoving things up their asses, He wouldnt've given us a prostate.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

lol

In at least "fundie" Protestantism, any Christianity that's not Protestantism is "not Christian".

By that logic, if God didn't want men shoving things up their asses, He wouldnt've given us a prostate.

I highly doubt that shoving things up one's anus is easy and feels good to the average guy.

 

[ITK]

In at least "fundie" Protestantism, any Christianity that's not Protestantism is "not Christian".

Arguing about what's "Christian" or not is semantics, but when people say such things what they're really arguing for is that Mormons, in this instance, are so far outside what they consider to be orthodoxy and the teachings of Christ that those Mormons share no communion with them, are not a part of the body of Christ, and probably won't partake in salvation. And this isn't a dumb thing to say. Mormons believe not just that God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit are completely seperate beings, but also that God is corporeal and finite, and not the originator of the universe, but was once a man who has gone through exaltation. He furthermore produced the human race through intercourse with a fourth god, the Heavenly Mother. Exaltation is the Mormon belief that in the afterlife you will become like God, essentially you will become like a new Jehova, and create your own planet, have your own Son and create your own Adam and Eve, and repeat the whole process. You will literally become god. No Christians in all of history before Joseph Smith have believed this.

I highly doubt that shoving things up one's anus is easy and feels good to the average guy.

Listen, jerk off all you want, but if you're gonna do the whole Christian shtick, at least refrain from touching yourself. It's the least you can do. What christian tradwife virgin would want a husband who jerks off? It's pretty blatantly incompatible with that religion's view of sexuality. Remember the story of Onan? Historical Christians even went so far as to say that fornication is superior to masturbation, because in that there is a possibility for reproduction, which is the ultimate purpose of sexuality in the Christian worldview.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Remember the story of Onan?

Onan's sin was pulling out when he was legally and morally obligated to give his dead brother's wife a son, an act he performed in order to gain control of his brother's inheritance.

 

[Pimpleking55]

What is it with all those addiction idiots who see the light and start preaching to you..if you break with your addiction good for you but for the love of sanity just shut up. I stopped smoking and i am very happy i did, but if i see someone lighting up a cigarette i don't go waving a finger in his face...let him smoke in peace. If you stop fapping every 5 min of the day hurray, good for you but dont be a morale fag....just keep quiet and live your life. I worked in rehab and all the ex crackheads who stopped, found Jesus and keep preaching about the evil of addiction, fast forward 4 months they were back on the street and were as addicted as before and mugged you if didnt pay attention. Better yourself, for yourself and move on and if you need help seek an expert who also gives you a pat on the back and will encourage you. But most important of all, just shut up and enjoy your new life in quiet.

 

[CowPox]

Did you waste more time jerking off or more time thinking about others jerking off? Whatever problem you had, you still likely have it me thinks.

 

[Spud]

Onan's sin was pulling out when he was legally and morally obligated to give his dead brother's wife a son, an act he performed in order to gain control of his brother's inheritance.

Technically it was the spilling of the seed that was his crime against god

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

This nigga gay