My Suggestions/Observations for KF (LARGE WALL OF TEXT)

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I have some questions OP

What do we have here. Hmmmmmmmmmmm


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It's okay guys, I know why he's doing it.

His site is smol, like his peenor.
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Gotta appreciate how this sanctuary wants to put its internet seed in my browser.

Also the original version of the site (What once was...) was quite a bit larger, but our OP here officially locked it into read-only mode in 12/17/2014 after freezing postings on 12/11/2014. I can't tell you why, but it's worth a read.
 
1. On the internet, attention is power. Now, obviously negative attention is bad, but even that be leveraged if you're smart enough. My point is that by giving these "lolcows" attention, you unconsciously give them power. You know how Anita Sarkeesian got a seat at the UN? We gave it to her. Everyone that went on the offensive just gave her ammo. Love her or hate her, she knew how to be the victim and to use that.
giving a lolcow attention so they can act like retards is a good thing that produces more content
 
ITT an attention whore appears and, fearing his destiny as a featured lolcow, risks bringing about this destiny by being a sped.

This is not an attack. This is not USA or Germany. This is Switzerland. Its like going to war and the first person you shoot is the librarian cause you think documenting things is an attack. Fuck outta here.

Side note: This is beautiful.
 
Kiwi Farms' influence on the world is a net positive.
Even if it wasn't, you got some stones coming here and passing judgement on that.
BUT - for the sake of argument, let's address some things that you mentioned.

KF's configuration is an evolved one. The ratio of autism to activism is perfect. The board culture gives freedom to misanthropes & trolls without empowering the overtly malicious. The Sysadmin cares about his users enough to tell the authorities of a foreign power to get fucked when they request IPs.
Nothing is below anybody. I love an herb roasted Coq au Vin as much as the next gourmand, but I'm eating microwave mac n cheese right now and that shit is DELICIOUS. The board is different things to different people at different times.
None of the other shit you said is really worth discussing.
 
It's okay guys, I know why he's doing it.

His site is smol, like his peenor.View attachment 697689
Gotta appreciate how this sanctuary wants to put its internet seed in my browser.

Also the original version of the site (What once was...) was quite a bit larger, but our OP here officially locked it into read-only mode in 12/17/2014 after freezing postings on 12/11/2014. I can't tell you why, but it's worth a read.
Nice tabs showing you had to google how to take a screenshot.
 
It takes a special kind of social reject to join a site where the users are known to dox any members that act a fool, and then proceed to tell everyone on said-site that the thing they do for fun is wrong and they should change...

Well., before I rip into your Reddit-post, let me just get this out the way real quick:
  1. No
  2. No one asked for your uninformed opinion
  3. Lurk moar
  4. kys faggot :)

I've been thinking about how best to write down all the thoughts I've had as a casual observer of KF. Well... I'm just gonna get right to the point of it all quickly. I don't think the focus of this site is a good idea at all.
Good introduction, junior. Establish that you know nothing about the site or the culture behind the site, and then tell us why we all made bad adult choices by posting on the forums. What I, or anyone else does on their bathroom/smoke break isn't your business, first of all. Second of all, that's not a good way to make a first impression. I hope you don't go into job interviews like that.

"Hi, I've only seen your building from the outside, but I have a bunch of ideas about how you're running your business wrong. I know it's just the interview, but I think you're all wasting your time at this job and you should do it this way instead. Don't worry, I brought a powerpoint slide-reel to explain my deep analysis on why I'm right and your business is beneath you."

Now just stop right there. I hear you typing on your keys furiously already. First of all, I DO NOT THINK THAT KF SHOULD SHUT DOWN AT ALL. I ALSO DO NOT WISH IT TO BE CENSORED IN ANY WAY. Okay, now that we got that out of the way, we can talk about why I would make such a statement here.

I already know WHY you're making the statement. You have a condition that causes your head to fill up with water and it causes you to have severe neurological deficits that render you incapable of executive function and critical thinking. It's okay fam, we've studied Tard Wrangling extensively here, and we understand your issues.

But we're still going to laugh at you.

Let's be quite honest here. This site has been created to point out and directly ridicule people on the internet, whether justly or otherwise. But there is also a little something more to the site as well. There is a focus on free speech as an ideal.

Seriously, lurk more dude. There's a bunch of forums here where people post about shit that doesn't involve lolcows. Some people post about hobbies, sports, general shooting the shit-talk, world events/news, politics, deep stoner thoughts, or whatever. You're only focusing on the thing that you find to be a waste of time.

And again, where do you get off assuming you know what's best for anyone?

More on that later.
I'm girding my loins in anticipation
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So, if I'm reading all this correctly, users will find certain people or groups and compile a list of things that they feel are detestable and/or utterly ridiculous. They will then post this information for others to see and post about. Such details can include many many things including the subject's real life name, location, family members, age, and of course, any active social media usernames.

You aren't reading it correctly, but I wont hold that against you because of your cranial water retention issue that we addressed earlier.

To be blunt, I believe that such things are below you all. I think that KF can be better than this. And I'm not even necessarily talking about morals or donating to charities here. I wish to talk about something much larger and more important. This is not a little site, and if I'm judging things correctly, you guys are growing everyday. I think that pointing and laughing at others is a waste of your guys' valuable time and resources.

You really underestimate people my dude. Part of the joy of the internet is that it connects you to so many people from all over the world. A web-like connection of information across the world, you might even say. Some people like to use that to get online and find all the videos of cute cats being cute. Some people like to get on and bitch about their jobs. And some people just get on and stumble across some cringey shit and want to share it. The urge to dig deeper and find out more about them via their social media, family, and all that other shit you listed (which, is easier to find than you think) is either pure curiosity, or recognizing that this person is just stupid enough to leave all their shit open to the public.

And if it's open to the public, then it's fair game. It's not our fault that some r-tard didn't practice internet safety 101 and make sure their shit was private or locked before they started tweeting pictures of their MLP panties and JonTron fanfiction. Personal example: I found an old co-worker's Gaia Online profile from when she was 14 and her secret account on WrongPlanet where she secretly lamented about some personal (and hysterical) shit about herself and her autistic boyfriend from just googling her current username. She left all that personal shit very easy to find and access because she put all her personal information in everything she did online. She left a 10-year papertrail of all her internet activity and information out there for anyone to find. I just found it out of curiosity.

Was it a "waste of time?" No. I found it while taking a shit and I'll look at what I want to look at when I'm sitting on the pot.

Let me expand on this with a couple points.

1. On the internet, attention is power. Now, obviously negative attention is bad, but even that be leveraged if you're smart enough. My point is that by giving these "lolcows" attention, you unconsciously give them power. You know how Anita Sarkeesian got a seat at the UN? We gave it to her. Everyone that went on the offensive just gave her ammo. Love her or hate her, she knew how to be the victim and to use that.

Can we go ONE FUCKING DAY without talking about Gamergate? I haven't thought about fucking Anita and her busted mug in a long time. I have friends who were pregnant during GG and their fucking kids are going to kindergarten now. FFS I'm so sick of her haunting the internet like a spector of fun-sucking and bad hair decisions.

2. A constant focus on negativity and drama can eat into a community. You may argue that KF has survived this long, so this point is null and void, but I would argue that KF has survived DESPITE such things. All this enmity flying around can cause discord, but as a wise person in a red and black striped shirt said, enmity sells. And there certainly is more and more of that going around these days. As you guys continue to focus on these negative horrible and/or cringy things, it will affect the general attitude of the community.

I had no idea you were quoting/referring to Calvin and Hobbes until I looked up the quote (that you didn't put quotes around, writer-kun) For anyone that cares, here's the link to the particular quote in question.

I've seen this first-hand and it was quite ugly. Guys, I am asking you, please do not fall into this same trap.

Please tell me that this traumatizing first-hand experience you witnessed was the fall of your World of Warcraft guild. I just have this feeling that the event you're drawing your conclusions about us for, comes from something that really isn't that big of a deal in The Big Picture of Life.

3. Mob rule is not a pretty thing. It's comforting to point at someone or a group and say, "There, that's the bad guy(s)." but the real unpleasant truth is that life is rarely that simple. Now, there is a time for revolting and defense, but going on the offensive like this constantly and unceasingly is not it.

Nigga this isn't a fucking secret internet group of rag-tag freedom fighters. It's a fucking forum where we share shit we found funny/interesting with one another. You mentioned earlier you have your own personal forum for doing things that interest you. Well....

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...it's not much different than what we do.

And not just that, it can be downright hypocritical. Everyone here has something to hide. Every single person. Now, if they've broken a serious law, that's different. Things need to be investigated by good authorities, but that's another topic that I won't get into here.

I'm going to be honest, this whole area of this paragraph is the funniest thing in this whole post. Holy shit my sides XD

When it just comes to what people say. Their beliefs. What they like and dislike, I hardly think it's fair to judge them and ridicule them based only on one perspective. And even if the perspective is right, the backlash the person receives is often quite out of proportion with what they've done.

Nigga are you stoned? Are you on pharmaceuticals of any kind or were you while typing this? You just went in a circle with your own backwards-ass logic. Also I'm starting to get the feeling you got bullied/are presently being bullied in school based on that whole last sentence. Did you have the "right opinion" one day, but some meanies took what you said the "wrong way" and you caught shit for it and got your feelings hurt?

You only have one perspective about the forum and the users. You haven't even made an attempt to talk to us prior to telling us that our form of entertainment is HARAM and that we should do what you think is "right." I hardly think it's fair for you to judge us and ridicule what we do in our free time.

Now I did mention that this site could be better. That it could be doing something more important. I STRONGLY believe that KF should drop its original purpose and instead focus whole-hog on freedom of speech. I don't know if anyone here will remember this at all, but there was once a site called TOTSE (Temple of the Screaming Electron). It focused on freedom of speech and freedom of information. It operated for 20 years straight and acted as a safe harbor to all as long as they followed a reasonable set of rules. The site was responsible for all sorts of great things that are sadly missing today in one part or another, and actually, many parallels can be drawn between TOTSE and KF.

And that's why I suggest such a thing. You guys have probably noticed already, but the amount of major sites that are censoring content is becoming worse and worse every day.

Even the users take part in this with upvote/downvote systems that are INCREDIBLY vulnerable to Tyranny of the Majority. KF could be an oasis in the midst of this shit storm. I think this is already happening a little bit.

It's not "tyrannical"; it's democracy where I live, so I don't know what this whole "Tyranny of the Majority" is, but I think it sounds like a name for an alternative-rock/punk band. Also stop being paranoid about the ratings here. Most people rate things to be funny. No one cares about their internet stamps that much, and neither should you. But you called it "upvote/downvote" so I'm under the impression you're a Reddit user.

Now, having said all that, I don't really expect KF to change overnight because of one rando person's topic and I have no idea just how receptive people here will even be to any of what I have to say, especially since I'm a completely new member here, but having said that, looking at some other threads reveals that people here are not absolutely exceptional and are willing to have a civil conversation about things, so I'm going to put this thread out there and hope for the best, but expect the worst.

Well, sport, I have bad news for you: the site isn't changing and no one wants it to change except you. Looks like the Tyrannical Majority has spoken... Better luck next time.

All that being said, I'm genuinely curious about why you thought your opinion would revolutionize a site with a pretty established userbase and community. What honestly made you think that this was the right course of action and why did you expect that you had a legitimate arguement?

I'm leaning towards your head being more flooded that New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, personally. But I'd still like your thots and pears. :3
 
shrugs I like to write. Also see above.
You don't "like" to write. You "have" to write.

On your site, you have 3,152 messages, out of a sitewide total of 4,679 messages. Your spergery legitimately accounts for 2/3 of your site's content.

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HAHAAHHAHAH Did he delete his account? His profile is "not available"
 
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