Nationalist spergs: why do you do it?

[Bad Headspace]

People usually need an outlet to post in and considering the shitlibs and joos pretty much destroy any platform they could use they go to places like the farm or the former cringe anarchy where the dogma is not as reinforced.

Also people miss the point of this forum because they didn't lurk enough.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I mean, there's nothing wrong with liking your country and being proud of it, and while I do think nationalism is another Democrat boogeyman word now, I think it's a dangerous road to go down as it's when you start resulting into believing sketchy and plain out wrong sources in general. You see it all the time with Kiwi newfags posting some cringy anti-globalist meme they find on Gab/Twitter on certain threads they think "THIS PROVES THE ELDERS OF ZION!!!! JEWISH TAKEOVER!!1!", which, in itself has been proven to be a lie and forgery, yet is still said by the spergiest of spergs to be the spoken word. Nobody with half a brain cell likes political correctness and sounding like a total robot, but I think some boogeyman in a room somewhere, which often said to be (((them))), isn't the reason for this shit. People connecting separate and totally unrelated facts, and somehow making them true doesn't mean anything.

I guess all I want to know is, why our ultra-nationalist newfags do it?

I feel like you've meshed a bunch of categories together here, and your post is very difficult to parse. As a result, I'm going to try and turn this into something at least sort of productive.
Farmers: which of the following statements do you most agree with, and why?:
- I see no reason to be proud of my country/There is nothing inherently good about my country.
- I believe my country is good/a source of pride, but not necessarily "better" than others.
- I believe my country is better than most other countries.
-I believe my country is the greatest/best country currently extant.
- I believe my country is the best country and that it should spread its culture/values across the world.
- I believe my country is the best country and that it should assimilate neighboring nations into its territory.
- I believe my country is the best country and that it should hold global hegemony.
- I believe my country is the best country, and because of this, it should avoid contact with lesser countries and ways of life as much as possible.

 

[ОТСТАЛАЯ ПИЗДА]

Here's how I see what is happening. Kiwifarms is mostly left-leaning, with only mild moderation. Because of the open stance towards moderation and the increasing moderation across the web, it becomes a haven to people that are have been rejected elsewhere or have chosen to reject communicating under uneven speech laws.

This gives more and more right wing refugees, as most censorship is towards different right-wing values. The fact that you put something mild like nationalism under that banner is emblematic. I would have thought it was over things like anti-tranny, anti-gay or race realism things. You put nationalism in the list of unacceptable ideas?

I'm just sitting here behind my computer screen, waiting for my eggs to boil, thinking: Why would you put nationalism in the unacceptable ideas list?

But then it makes sense of course. Nationalism is the only line of defense against globalism.

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As to the learned elders of zion, I'm curious @Give Her The D : what are your thoughts on the ideas laid out by coudenhoven-kalergi in praktischer idealismus, which is sometimes referred to as "the kalergi plan"? And the prescience of that document in the transformation of europe? Is that also an example of the spergiest of spergs?




And if you don't like refugees, you must be one of those dirty (ultra)-nationalists.

Since when is Kiwifarms "mostly left-leaning"? lmao

 

[Lemmingwise]

Since when is Kiwifarms "mostly left-leaning"? lmao

If I go in the archives and read stuff from 2013-2014, that's how it looks to me.

Don't you think the amount of right wing posters has increased since? What's your observation?

Farmers: which of the following statements do you most agree with, and why?:
- I see no reason to be proud of my country/There is nothing inherently good about my country.
- I believe my country is good/a source of pride, but not necessarily "better" than others.
- I believe my country is better than most other countries.
-I believe my country is the greatest/best country currently extant.
- I believe my country is the best country and that it should spread its culture/values across the world.
- I believe my country is the best country and that it should assimilate neighboring nations into its territory.
- I believe my country is the best country and that it should hold global hegemony.
- I believe my country is the best country, and because of this, it should avoid contact with lesser countries and ways of life as much as possible.

This should be a poll.

 

[ОТСТАЛАЯ ПИЗДА]

If I go in the archives and read stuff from 2013-2014, that's how it looks to me.

Don't you think the amount of right wing posters has increased since? What's your observation?

I don't think it was overtly political at all. It was just about laughing at chris. I think you will find that most people who
laugh at funny autistic people probably won't self identify as left-leaning, even in 2013. They lose those precious lefty
altruism points when they laugh at tards.

 

[Basil II]

I mean, there's nothing wrong with liking your country and being proud of it, and while I do think nationalism is another Democrat boogeyman word now, I think it's a dangerous road to go down as it's when you start resulting into believing sketchy and plain out wrong sources in general. You see it all the time with Kiwi newfags posting some cringy anti-globalist meme they find on Gab/Twitter on certain threads they think "THIS PROVES THE ELDERS OF ZION!!!! JEWISH TAKEOVER!!1!", which, in itself has been proven to be a lie and forgery, yet is still said by the spergiest of spergs to be the spoken word. Nobody with half a brain cell likes political correctness and sounding like a total robot, but I think some boogeyman in a room somewhere, which often said to be (((them))), isn't the reason for this shit. People connecting separate and totally unrelated facts, and somehow making them true doesn't mean anything.

I guess all I want to know is, why our ultra-nationalist newfags do it?

Nationalism has become a bogeyman word that it didn't used to be and most woketards shouting about ebil nationalists have no idea what it means.

Nationalism to put it succinctly, is believing states should be determined by ethnicity.
The concept came in the late 18th-early 19th century as an opposition to Imperialist Empires like the Ottomans, Austrians, French, British etc. and eventually lead to the Greek indepence in 1821, Latin American independence in the post-Napoleonic world, German and Italian unification of the late 19th century and the destruction of the Ottoman and Austrian Empires.

If you believe states should be determined by Ethnic lines (AKA Germans should live in Germany) (Russians should live in Russia) you are a nationalist. Most people are nationalists at heart even if they don't know it. The derogatory nature of the word came more recently during the 20th century when Nationalism was taken to it's violent extreme.
Nationalist Turks genociding all the Christians from Anatolia, Nazi Germans genociding all the Slavs and Jews so they can replace them and so on.

Nationalism by itself is not a bad ideology it's only when taken too far by racial autists like Hitler or using it as an excuse for Imperialism like Mussolini is when it becomes bad.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Kiwifarms is mostly left-leaning, with only mild moderation.

That's just because you're all faggots and faggots lean left.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I see that made an error. I meant to say "when I first came to kiwifarms and looked into its history, it looked like it was mostly left-leaning, with mild moderation, and started receiving more right wing ideas over time"

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

I see that made an error. I meant to say "when I first came to kiwifarms and looked into its history, it looked like it was mostly left-leaning, with mild moderation, and started receiving more right wing ideas over time"

That's just because you're a bunch of thirsty bottoms who long for the forbidden fruit of a straight man.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Nationalism to put it succinctly, is believing states should be determined by ethnicity.

Does this mean you completely reject such ideas as civic nationalism or cultural nationalism? Or were these simply out of the purview of your summary?

 

[Arcturus]

A lot of people were probably left leaning before it all went tits up and the left started to become a joke. The right isn't even necessarily that much better. I imagine the reality is that most of us are sick of the whole god damn thing and want to hit the redo button.

 

[Basil II]

Does this mean you completely reject such ideas as civic nationalism or cultural nationalism? Or were these simply out of the purview of your summary?

I should've clarified, to me ethnicity and culture is synonymous, all the "ancestry" associated with ethnicity is meaningless (even fucking Mussolini acknowledged this) and what really matters is Culture, so I guess I'm a Cultural Nationalist, especially in the context of the New World where everything is a melting pot. (IMO in the U.S. focusing on an American identity rather than whether you're White or Black would go a very long way in healing race relations)

Civic Nationalism seems too rigid to the idea of adhering to a state, I do believe someone should be able to become a citizen of a country if they truly love it's culture. Civic Nationalism just seems like a slippery slope to the destruction of Nationalism and encourages economic migration (see Europe's countries and all the Islamic migrants not assimilating)
TBH it just seems like a scheme to support the state rather than the people. You shouldn't be able to move to a country while shitting on it's culture and be considered their countryman just because the state said you were a citizen.

 

[OB 946]

Also people miss the point of this forum because they didn't lurk enough.

Yeah also this. I'm seeing a lot of posters from the last couple months that are nothing but 1488 gas the kikes race war now types. I know that for a long time AH has been /pol/ lite but it's even more noticable now after the Christchurch shooting.

 

[crocodilian]

Yeah also this. I'm seeing a lot of posters from the last couple months that are nothing but 1488 gas the kikes race war now types. I know that for a long time AH has been /pol/ lite but it's even more noticable now after the Christchurch shooting.

Kiwifarms has historically been populated by what most of you will recognize as "weenz" or "A-logs"; people desperate to feel good about themselves, no matter the cost, and do so by endlessly heckling, mocking or otherwise gossiping about outrageous personalities they found on the internet. They only taste the vicarious thrill of normalcy by stomping on acceptable targets, completely oblivious to the irony that they tend to be just as pathetic as their muse (and, in many cases, nowhere near as likable.)

For the first time in human history, adding antisemitic white supremacists to a population has actually made it better.

 

[SugarSnot]

I'm a nationalist, or specifically anti-immigration, more out of a biology standpoint. To me, my nation is more than just the people that inhabit it. It is the animals and the nature that have adapted to the environment around here. I come from a country that has a birthrate below replacement level and I see that as a good thing. For the sake of efficiency and convenience people have been encroaching on nature, and as a result much of the vulnerable fauna here is dying out. I value biological diversity and the more people we have to house and feed, the more we must industrialize the environment to sustain them. In a sense it is just natural selection doing it's thing, but I'm entitled to my opinion on human involvement in it.

On top of that, I do not feel particularly keen on my efforts on making the country a better place benefiting the children of those that never built the country in the first place. They just saw a prosperous place to live, forsook their home and are entitled by law to the resources my countrymen worked very hard to acquire. I would feel more comfortable with it if they were just people that moved here to live out the rest of their days in peace, but the fact that they start families and they take up resources rubs me the wrong way.

Lastly, as it applies to immigration. If we only accept good people from the outside, then the countries we are accepting good people from are being robbed of their good, and are consequently worse off. It is not like the bad people in their countries will stop having children and raising them with bad values. Same goes vice versa. I'd rather good men build their countries up instead of abandoning them to fester new generations that will keep inspiring people to flee en masse.

 

[FA 855]

I think Kiwifarms is a contrarian website, because the media publishes a never ending stream of socially acceptable moral guidelines, some people got sick of it and moved here to escape the bullshit. Free speech and being right wing is a rebellious culture (and the left was rebellious in McCarthyism or the Reagan era), this place was the perfect host for such a sentiment, since it is a very loosely moderated website, contrarianism of kiwi farms = new rebellious users wanting to give the media the finger.


As for nationalism, I think being patriotic at least is a societal good, just because it gives some meaning to some people's lives and as far as I'm concerned that's great, for me, I'm patriotic of the people, but not the state. One of my concerns with mass immigration is that it can cause gender imbalances and thus create more unstable societies.

 

[Eryngium]

Long live the legitimate state of Israel!

 

[Clop]

I see words like "newfag" and all I can think of is "hello fellow adults of 4chan."

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Kiwifarms has historically been populated by what most of you will recognize as "weenz" or "A-logs"; people desperate to feel good about themselves, no matter the cost, and do so by endlessly heckling, mocking or otherwise gossiping about outrageous personalities they found on the internet. They only taste the vicarious thrill of normalcy by stomping on acceptable targets, completely oblivious to the irony that they tend to be just as pathetic as their muse (and, in many cases, nowhere near as likable.)

For the first time in human history, adding antisemitic white supremacists to a population has actually made it better.

Then why are you here, exactly?

 

[GethN7]

I'm an advocate of being proud of your people and culture so long as it doesn't cross into assuming others suck because of what you are proud of.

Take the United States for example. Sure, I'm a proud citizen of said country, but that doesn't mean Nigeria or France are any worse or better, as they likely feel the same about their own nations and believe they have their own unique virtues as well, and who am I to shit on that? They feel loyalty to the place and people of their birth, and if it lets them hold their heads up high, more power to them.

Nationalism is a healthy thing for any nation when it promotes pride in the dignity of the nation-state's internal morale, but it turns ugly when you assume your nation is any better than any other because of said feelings.