Nebula / Standard Broadcast LLC - A Creator-Owned Streaming Service

Yeah. He thinks all black conservatives are secret white supremacists and refers to them as "race traitors" (or in Candace Owen's case, a c00n. No, seriously - he calls her that).

Anyway, I got a kick out of that one time Tree of Logic read him to filth on Twitter:

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man I should really make a thread on that guy I'm gonna tell you someone who actually has worked with the the boys in the hood there's no one they hate more than upper middle class social science

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...aren't creators supposed to disclose if their content is sponsored by a company/entity? Or does that not apply since Nebula is a private streaming service? Could they potentially get in trouble if its revealed all the weird Nebula videos fellating Qatar's mere existence turn out to actually be financed by said country?
Nebula isn't TV so unless there are US sanctions on Qatar (last time I checked, there weren't) the creators are unlikely to get in legal trouble.
 
Blud, you've to share that list. I mean, you and those redditors are sitting on some good material.
Let me preface this by saying the historian also stated "nearly all Nebula education video essays are full of inaccuracies & have clear and obvious biases". However I just asked him to list videos that he personally thought were Qatari Iranian propaganda:

Reallifelore- How Qatar became the world's most OP country
Wendover - How Qatar is Becoming the Switzerland of the Middle East
TLDR News Global - Qatar: The World's Smallest Super Power
Polymatter: Why Repressive Qatar Broadcasts Progressive TV

There might be more, but he said he cancelled his Nebula subscription due to low quality content.

Now let me share some choice Youtube comments from the video How Qatar became the world's most OP country:

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Nebula isn't TV so unless there are US sanctions on Qatar (last time I checked, there weren't) the creators are unlikely to get in legal trouble.

Well, that could explain why Nebula creators have been having meltdowns on their social media about Trump potentially winning the election. (Assuming a future Trump administration goes back to supporting Saudi Arabia's anti-Qatar policies. I believe Saudi Arabia tried to arrange a blockade of Qatar?)

Shame I'm not an investigative journalist (I'm just a simple ██ ██ █ ███ /artist). Qatar potentially funding tankie educational influencers to spread pro-Qatar/Anti-Saudi propaganda sounds like an article topic that could win some accolades. Or at least get some clicks on Breitbart or the Daily Wire.
 
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a few videos made by Nebula creators that are very obvious Qatar financed propaganda.

For example, this video about Qatar (by Nebula-er Polymatter), which, I shit you not - argues that Qatar's Al Jazeera is an unbiased progressive news source free from propaganda 🤣🤦‍♀️
Aren't some prominent breadtubbers like hakim and adamsomething very anti Qatar, or they haven't been brought up by nebula and their overlords?
 
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Aren't some prominent breadtubbers like hakim and adamsomething very anti Qatar, or they haven't been brought up be nebula and their overlords?

Hakim wasn't invited to Nebula, & his frequent collaborator Second Thought was unceremoniously kicked off Nebula for being an "antisemite"...despite his hot antisemitic takes arguably being significantly less hateful than other Nebula-breadtubers (for example, Lindsay Ellis, who I previously established is Candace Owens-level of antisemitic batsh!t. Like Lindsay literally thinks a Passover Seder is when Jews sit around a diner table and enact a chthonic ritual celebrating mass infant slaughter).

Adam Something wasn't invited to Nebula (or if he was, he declined) although he's had a few cameos in Nebula videos.
 
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I saw this guy sell out and I just unsubbed. Judge me if you want because this guy used to only make Weezer videos but started to make videos on other rock bands about a year ago, maybe he was required to broaden his scope in order to join.
I personally want to believe that breadtubers are Weezer fans, and if you know the joke about Weezer fans you know that's true.
 
I saw this guy sell out and I just unsubbed. Judge me if you want because this guy used to only make Weezer videos but started to make videos on other rock bands about a year ago, maybe he was required to broaden his scope in order to join.
I personally want to believe that breadtubers are Weezer fans, and if you know the joke about Weezer fans you know that's true.
A Weezer video essayist? LOL. They sure know how to pick'em.

I'll never not get a kick out of how Nebula markets itself as this progressive profound boundary-breaking streaming service, yet all its approved creators are just white upper middle class hipsters 'sperging about white upper middle class hipster bullsh!t (for example, that weird bike guy).
 
Don't forget alt shift X who just steals fan theories off popular forms and makes videos on them one of the most honored original ******** on YouTube
I swear when I started realizing George RR Martin is a lazy writer arise as an entire sub industry designed around making it seem like he's a lot more clever than he actually is when it comes to a song of ice and fire
 
Nebula increased their prices for new members. (link)

Why Indie Streamer Nebula Has Decided It’s Time for a Price Increase

Just as the much-anticipated 11th season of hit travel competition series “Jet Lag: The Game” takes flight on Nebula, the indie streamer will be implementing its first-ever major price increase on Sept. 1.

Major is of course relative, because the creator-owned streamer, which is currently priced at $5 per month and $50 annually, will be hiking its fee by a whopping $1 to reach $6 per month and $60 annually, in comparison to the cost of Netflix, Max and the similar mega streamers that have also recently undergone a round of price increases.

Nebula also offers one specific deal its those much larger streamers don’t: specialized codes promoted by Nebula creators in their content that give a 40% discount on that new annual membership price down to $36.

And all of these changes only apply to new subscribers, as Nebula says it will continue to honor the current rate for existing customers — and rolled out that info Aug. 1 in order to give non-customers ample time to get their lower membership rates locked in.

But a price increase is a price increase, no matter how small, and Nebula CEO Dave Wiskus has an explanation behind the business decision and why it will only apply to new customers.

First, it’s important to note that when Nebula launched in 2019, it was offered as a standalone subscription or through a bundle with then-partner Curiosity Stream. That deal was phased out more than a year and a half ago, and the standalone pricing for Nebula has not changed since.

“There’s a few things at play here. One is our price hasn’t really changed much since we launched,” Wiskus told Variety. “There’s been a couple of changes, but for so long, we were part of this bundle. In the era of us being our own thing, for the last year and a half, we haven’t seen a price increase, and a lot of that was us feeling out the relationship with the subscribers. Seeing, do people stay signed up? What are the marketing dynamics? What are the audience retention dynamics? What happens when we start adding more prestige content and do bigger original productions? And what we’ve seen, one of the most common requests we get is, is there a way we can pay you more? No joke, we get this question through our support all the time. People ask if there’s a way they can pay us more. And I think that it comes down to, unlike the big streamers, the dynamic for us with the audience is they want to support the creators. They want to support this business venture that the creators have gotten together and embarked on. They’re here for us, not just the stuff that’s being made. And when we look at the value increase of Nebula over the last couple of years — the new creators that we’ve added, we’re over 200 creators now, the original productions were going bigger and bigger with the originals, we’re trying more audacious things, we’re moving into more prestige television-style formats — what the subscriber gets for the money, the value has gone up.”

Wiskus isn’t exaggerating: Over the past year, Nebula has significantly increased its content offering and production pipeline, launched a movie studio and struck partner deals with Morning Brew and Spotify. Noteworthy recent and upcoming titles from Nebula include, “Jet Lag: The Game” Season 11, “Identiteaze,” “Dracula’s Ex-Girlfriend” from “House of the Dragon” Season 2 newcomer Abigail Thorn, “17 Pages,” “Boomers,” “The Getaway” and “The Dinner Plan,” just to name a few.

“And to bring us a little bit more in line with what a streaming service of our level, relatively, would cost and should cost, being respectful to the audience and thinking through us wanting to expand and do more things, investing more to create more things, to provide more value to the subscribers — it just seems like sooner or later, inflation is going to catch up,” Wiskus said. “Sooner or later, you’re going to have to make changes. And we wanted to think through not just what making a change looks like now, but what are our policies around making changes? How do we explain it to the customers? What is that conversation like? How transparent can we be? And so the idea here is to make a small change, to telegraph how we make changes, and to kind of bring us in line with inflation and the value that we’re providing.”

Wiskus also notes he has no plans of increasing the price for current Nebula subscribers in the near future — and hopes they never have to at all. And he’s tried to make this stance very clear through direct communication with his customers ahead of the September price increase.

“It would take a lot for us to raise rates for existing subscribers,” Wiskus wrote on response to a subscriber’s question related to the coming price increase on the Nebula sub-Reddit page last week. “The plan is to grow so much that the percentage of people on the old pricing just isn’t worth the hassle of annoying them. But, legally speaking, never say never.”
They are quite heavily promoting Olly Thorn's latest acting atrocity "Dracula's Ex-Girlfriend" in which Olly is the ex-girlfriend, of course.
 
Saw this Wendover comment pinned on the Amusement Park advertisement video, after the majority of it's comments called it a biased paid promotional video that glossed over the park's recent deadly accident:

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Nebula (or at least Wendover) claims to have a policy against quid pro quo/full-integrations/sponsor dictated videos 🤣

U-huh, yeah, sure buster. You & your Nebula buddies just conveniently glossed over Qatar's human rights atrocities in all your Qatar videos while simultaneously professing just how amazing/fantastic/progressive Qatar is as a country. Either they're a bunch of dumb tankies who freely stan for fascist totalitarian states (which, I mean, I guess is completely possible considering how monumentally stupid the Nebula lot are) or they were given a fat stack of Qatari-promotional cash.

@Ninon42:

Do you think the price increase means Nebula isn't doing well as they proclaim? Or maybe all their awful self-funded productions (like Identiteaze? or whatever) are driving Nebula's bottom line into the red?

Whatever the case may be, I fully expect Nebula-talent to release more weird obvious commercials/foreign propaganda on the platform.
 
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Nebula (or at least Wendover) claims to have a policy against quid pro quo/full-integrations/sponsor dictated videos 🤣

U-huh, yeah, sure buster. You & your Nebula buddies just conveniently glossed over Qatar's human rights atrocities in all your Qatar videos while simultaneously professing just how amazing/fantastic/progressive Qatar is as a country
I'm honestly don't know how to feel about this, the muslims have managed to tame modern progressives trough extreme violence and bribery
 
@Ninon42:

Do you think the price increase means Nebula isn't doing well as they proclaim? Or maybe all their awful self-funded productions (like Identiteaze? or whatever) are driving Nebula's bottom line into the red?

Whatever the case may be, I fully expect Nebula-talent to release more weird obvious commercials/foreign propaganda on the platform.
They are expanding rapidly into large-scale content creation, which isn't cheap. Taking their publicity at face value, 680k members at maximum $50/yr is $34M gross annually before taxes, deductions, overhead and profit-sharing with their 200ish creators and equal number of employees. That doesn't actually leave a lot of net profit for expanded content creation on a platform with no ads and very few actual paying external sponsors, and the partnerships with Spotify and Morning Brew can't be THAT lucrative. Combined with the fact that almost everything on Nebula is available for free on YouTube, well, they wouldn't be the first content creation agency to have eyes bigger than their bellies.

I think Wiskus mentioned at some point not making anything that wasn't fully funded in advance (citation needed, brain), but they are in a bind of being basically a curated library housing the back catalogs of their creators while needing to post constant new content to justify that monthly sub, like a professor stuck in publish or perish mode. Their creators are already mostly self-funded through Paypigs Like You on Patreon so that output isn't on Nebula, but the investment into a physical studio and high-end equipment is a large capital expenditure. Like their Masterclass knockoff, it may not pay off in the long run. Wiskus made clear he hopes to get enough new suckers subs to keep the pyramid scheme going based on their original content, but Nebula is a luxury, frivolous service at a time when many people struggle to pay for necessities.

Please keep spotlighting the poor quality of the content e.g. the Qatar connections. The platform is built on the premise of smarter-than-thou creators, so poking holes in their confidently stated propaganda is a great way to do actual reputational damage.
 
I think Wiskus mentioned at some point not making anything that wasn't fully funded in advance (citation needed, brain), but they are in a bind of being basically a curated library housing the back catalogs of their creators while needing to post constant new content to justify that monthly sub, like a professor stuck in publish or perish mode. Their creators are already mostly self-funded through Paypigs Like You on Patreon so that output isn't on Nebula, but the investment into a physical studio and high-end equipment is a large capital expenditure. Like their Masterclass knockoff, it may not pay off in the long run. Wiskus made clear he hopes to get enough new suckers subs to keep the pyramid scheme going based on their original content, but Nebula is a luxury, frivolous service at a time when many people struggle to pay for necessities.

I think Wiskus severely overestimated the amount of paypigs willing to shill out 5 6 bucks a month to smell Nebula talent's metaphorical farts. Also, the individuals whom he intended to market the Nebula app to (i.e. smart people who enjoy listening to science/history/etc. long form content) have critical thinking skills and quickly deduce that Nebula content is inaccurate/severely biased/thinly veiled foreign propaganda/thinly veiled advertisements. Hence, why Nebula video essays are considered a fucking joke & get viciously mocked by historians over on Reddit.

TLDR, just listen to NPR.

So, open question, what should be done with this thread? My initial scheme is kinda by the wayside, and honestly idk what to add to the OP, open to suggestions

Maybe link to the Nebula content creators' personal lolcow threads? For a streaming service, Nebula sure is a smorgasbord of lolcows.
 
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(i.e. smart people who enjoy listening to science/history/etc. long form content) have critical thinking skills and quickly deduce that Nebula content is inaccurate/severely biased/thinly veiled foreign propaganda/thinly veiled advertisements. Hence, why Nebula video essays are considered a fucking joke & get viciously mocked by historians over on Reddit.
Isn't johnny Harris, perhaps their history related creator that has the better video production widely mocked by almost everyone on the historian community for his innacurate and biased takes?
 
Maybe link to the Nebula content creators' personal lolcow threads? For a streaming service, Nebula sure is a smorgasbord of lolcows.
I’ll take a look at a current list tomorrow when I’m at my PC, and do more cross linking. If you guys have suggestions for people of interest without threads, I’d be happy to add those too
 
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