Nebula / Standard Broadcast LLC - A Creator-Owned Streaming Service

[Ninon42]

I don't think Nebula makes that much from their sponsors, because what sponsors? I admittedly don't watch many of their stable, but mid-tier creators like Todd are most frequently sponsored by Nebula themselves, shilling discounted monthly/annual/lifetime deals and getting a piece of the action they bring in with their signup code. Bright Sun Films has been sponsored recently by Hello Fresh or Factor or one of those meal delivery companies; he doesn't even mention Nebula on his channels or in the video links anymore. Without the Curiosity Stream deal, what external sponsors do they have? Been a long time since SkillShare or SquareSpace have done an ad placement. Does Nebula use midroll ads or something?

Every time I come back to the basic question of how Nebula makes money, the numbers just don't add up.

 

[Eventide]

I don't think Nebula makes that much from their sponsors, because what sponsors? I admittedly don't watch many of their stable, but mid-tier creators like Todd are most frequently sponsored by Nebula themselves, shilling discounted monthly/annual/lifetime deals and getting a piece of the action they bring in with their signup code. Bright Sun Films has been sponsored recently by Hello Fresh or Factor or one of those meal delivery companies; he doesn't even mention Nebula on his channels or in the video links anymore. Without the Curiosity Stream deal, what external sponsors do they have? Been a long time since SkillShare or SquareSpace have done an ad placement. Does Nebula use midroll ads or something?

Every time I come back to the basic question of how Nebula makes money, the numbers just don't add up.

Their current sponsors are likely state actors (i.e. Qatar), or nebulous entities like the Cato Institute. Nebula has become the streaming service equivalent of those fake newspaper websites you see on popup adds shilling colon cleanses or overpriced MRE kits for the ends times.

 

[Ninon42]

Mic the Snare has joined the Nebula stable.

 

[Soi Woh Jak]

Cato Institute.

Does the Cato school have that much money? I don't think they're communists are they? Cause the Chicago school and the cato school have a good relationship and the Cato school was founded by prominent libertarian Murray rothbard. Surely some state funding is going to nebula, maybe Qatar oil money, my bets on the British state cause they have funded philtube before to produce propaganda. Maybe china, big maybe cause tencent is a very prominent entity and baizuoism is a very useful tool for them to invest in, that's excluding all the tankie china shills already.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

this is basically a puff piece for Qatari disguise this criticism

 

[Hirbowedge]

Does the Cato school have that much money? I don't think they're communists are they? Cause the Chicago school and the cato school have a good relationship and the Cato school was founded by prominent libertarian Murray rothbard. Surely some state funding is going to nebula, maybe Qatar oil money, my bets on the British state cause they have funded philtube before to produce propaganda. Maybe china, big maybe cause tencent is a very prominent entity and baizuoism is a very useful tool for them to invest in, that's excluding all the tankie china shills already.

Leftist circles accuse Koch brothers of funding them. They treat the Koch's as a right wing Soros even though they are nowhere near influential. Nowadays though Thiel is receiving those accusations. (Funding the right in general, not Cato.)

 

[Soi Woh Jak]

Leftist circles accuse Koch brothers of funding them. They treat the Koch's as a right wing Soros even though they are nowhere near influential. Nowadays though Thiel is receiving those accusations. (Funding the right in general, not Cato.)

Koch, Thiel, Murdoch and whoever else are venture capitalists who have no interests in funding culture war nonsense especially if its from young people and not through their predetermined channels. The most accurate accusation you get is probably the Israeli state cause they do fund the Daily Wire and Prager U to some extent.

 

[Eventide]

Does the Cato school have that much money?

The Cato Institute has a lot of money.

I don't think they're communists are they? Cause the Chicago school and the cato school have a good relationship and the Cato school was founded by prominent libertarian Murray rothbard. Surely some state funding is going to nebula, maybe Qatar oil money, my bets on the British state cause they have funded philtube before to produce propaganda. Maybe china, big maybe cause tencent is a very prominent entity and baizuoism is a very useful tool for them to invest in, that's excluding all the tankie china shills already.

I thought the Koch Brother's bequeathed an extordinarly large endowment to the Cato Institute in the late 90's? Said brothers may not be in literal control of the organization (especially since I'm pretty sure the Koch Brothers passed away a few years back from old age?) but generally the Cato Institute always focused on research catering to the Koch Brother's specific flavor of American conservativism. i.e. psuedo-Libertarian anti-environmental laws/anti-government regulation/anti-government market influence/anti-tariffs. Communists sometimes quote Cato Institute research, but for the exact opposite reason of Libertarians.

Libertarian: "This law/regulation is useless. Abolish it."
Communist: "Look, this Cato study showed that [insert government environmental law] was completely ineffective at stopping climate change & was just an unnecessary financial burden passed on to lower income people! Clearly this means we need stronger government regulations & we'll make sure this time only the rich people pay!"

Nowadays Koch Brother's-style rhetoric has become increasingly less common in the Republican party, as Republicans ride the Trump-inspired populism wave encouraging tariffs & protectionist policies. However; even with that being the case - it still doesn't explain why a leftist tankie creator on Nebula would be spouting talking points straight from Cato Institute articles. That's sus af.

this is basically a puff piece for Qatari disguise this criticism

Like I said before, Nebula is chock-full of what appears to be foreign propaganda video essays. The streaming platform deserves a serious side eye from federal regulators (like, whoever is in charge of scrutinizing American companies to see if they're being paid by hostile foreign entities to spew propaganda). At this point it wouldn't shock me if some shady Russian-entity is funding Nebula the same way a shady Russian entity was caught funding Tim Pool & ilk. The soy-faced Nebula CEO certainly doesn't seem intelligent enough to sniff out a Russian psy-op.

Just for fun, here's an image depicting Nebula's most likely funding source (aside from its paying subscribers):

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Does the Cato school have that much money? I don't think they're communists are they? Cause the Chicago school and the cato school have a good relationship and the Cato school was founded by prominent libertarian Murray rothbard. Surely some state funding is going to nebula, maybe Qatar oil money, my bets on the British state cause they have funded philtube before to produce propaganda. Maybe china, big maybe cause tencent is a very prominent entity and baizuoism is a very useful tool for them to invest in, that's excluding all the tankie china shills already.

I should really get a different hobby besides reading obscure Murray rothbard
they did have a really good relationship and he technically owned part of the institute but he kept his shares in there safe and basically they went in the wrong direction Murray rothbard generally actually does have a problem with the government existing the Koch brothers were just in it to enrich themselves so they split ways and he founded the mises institute with Ron Paul.

they also technically cheated him out of his control of the institute but he wasn't willing to fight it because he didn't have the money and he simply just a libertarian academic.

To be fair every one of his students is somehow completely and utterly more insane than he is and comes up with some really fun ideas like Edward conkin the third who was really obsessed with Lord of the rings and that you need to create black markets in order to destroy the state and you should commit tax fraud.

Lou Rockwell however has become an unapologetic Russian boot liquor at this point same thing with doctor hop.

There's also Larry blank another one of his students who got in a fight with Lou Rockwell over Israel Palestine.

The infightings of libertarianism would never not be funny to me

 

[Anti Snigger]

I unironically got a month of the service because of the bobby broccoli vid, it's ogre for me

 

[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

I unironically got a month of the service because of the bobby broccoli vid, it's ogre for me

Kevan 'the Russians were busy freeing Europe while Americans were finding elements' MacKay? Our BobbyBroccoli? Good heaven, I still enjoy his videos.

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

Highly anecdotal but I got about 15 ads in Bobby Broccoli's latest vid, constantly breaking the pace of the video, and it made me wonder if Nebula is still dependant on YouTube as a source of income to fund itself. As in the creators pool funds and 'invest' it back into the grift since not every Nebula creator has that big of a Patreon/source of monetization.

MacKay is a very interesting case to me. This guy that is introducing normies to post-doc goss in an accessible and flashy presentation is exactly what you picture with Nebula's so called mission but Nebula and its inevitable collapse unless it keeps compromising its 'morals' is exactly the kind of thing you would expect him to make a video on.

Wonder if he has realized it yet or he is as dense/trusting as some of the people he talks about.

 

[Eventide]

Highly anecdotal but I got about 15 ads in Bobby Broccoli's latest vid, constantly breaking the pace of the video, and it made me wonder if Nebula is still dependant on YouTube as a source of income to fund itself. As in the creators pool funds and 'invest' it back into the grift since not every Nebula creator has that big of a Patreon/source of monetization.

MacKay is a very interesting case to me. This guy that is introducing normies to post-doc goss in an accessible and flashy presentation is exactly what you picture with Nebula's so called mission but Nebula and its inevitable collapse unless it keeps compromising its 'morals' is exactly the kind of thing you would expect him to make a video on.

Wonder if he has realized it yet or he is as dense/trusting as some of the people he talks about.

...wait, are you saying Nebula is run like an artists' collective/co-op?

Well than it's definitely going to go belly up in the near-ish future. I'm an artist, trust me - artist collectives always fall apart due to whatever artist/artists having the most pull in said collective siphoning all the money to fund some egotistical vanity project that ultimately bankrupts said collective. Art collectives are a bit like pyramid schemes. They fall apart when new creatives realize they won't get anything out of joining one (collectives will promise potential members exposure/gallery showings/workspace - but usually the collective's money goes to promoting a few select artists, & does fuck all to help the other members).

*The few that don't fall apart are either weird cults exploiting their members for free labor to run a business (like a restaurant/farm), or are financed by a nepo baby artist's rich relatives who are using the collective as an elaborate money laundering/tax avoidance scheme (...a significant chunk of the art world is financed by shady rich people trying to do shady rich people sh!t).

 

[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

I bump due to recent developments making me have a realization.

More Perfect Union (name so generic I got it confused while writing this) has become the talk of the breadtube thread due to its connection with our dear George Soros, which led to a massive doxing of staff.

Some names you may recognize (FD Signifier, munecat and EthanIsOnline) have been featured on this channel in the past, likely because any influencer can pitch and produce a video for them if they deem it interesting enough.

MPU makes a BIG emphasis on rural America news, somewhat of a novel concept when compared with the Gravel Institute (bet you forgot they even existed) and the more edutainment inclined Nebula.

Why doesn't Soros fund Nebula?

 

[The_Bladder_Splatter]

More Perfect Union (name so generic I got it confused while writing this) has become the talk of the breadtube thread due to its connection with our dear George Soros, which led to a massive doxing of staff.

Sounds like the whole thing is being run by morons which isn't surprising knowing about their recent security blunder plus the fact that they are trying to reach out to rural working people who historically have been a group that doesn't eat up socialist bullshit

 

[The_Bladder_Splatter]

artist collectives always fall apart due to whatever artist/artists having the most pull in said collective siphoning all the money to fund some egotistical vanity project that ultimately bankrupts said collective

I mean it may happened with philosophy tube's short film Dracula's Ex-Girlfriend, the thing was panned by mainstream critics and bombed so hard that nebula started giving free week passes in an effort to squeeze more views, if nebula didn't suffered big losses from this it proves that Nebula is a huge ponzi scheme mantained by investors that forgot about that little amount of money they agreed to invest

 

[The_Bladder_Splatter]

Now that i think about it, what is the true purpose of Nebula?, i don't buy the whole evading YouTube policies sthick since all the members are in the system good graces, monetary gains aren't also a problem since most of them also make six figures from their Patreon alone, honestly this whole operation reeks of Channel Awesome 2.0: Electric Bogaloo considering the past of the people behind it

 

[Eventide]

Sounds like the whole thing is being run by morons which isn't surprising knowing about their recent security blunder

What security blunder? Did Nebula get hacked/users locked out of their accounts or something?

Now that i think about it, what is the true purpose of Nebula?

...did I not make it obvious in my prior comments? Nebula's existence is merely a way for Youtube tankies to siphon stacks of cold hard cash from the propaganda budgets of hostile foreign entities/any group willing to make it rain like they're a bachelor party at a strip club while trying to push their agenda. Hence videos jumping from topics such as "Qatar is the bestest country that has ever existed, trust me bro" to videos pushing Cato Institute talking points that have been on the Koch Brother's agenda since the mid 1998.

Since the pandemic, the feds have been scrutinizing Youtube channels pushing "dangerous fake news funded by foreign entities". Hence, why Tim Pool & his buddies recently got in trouble for receiving millions in funding from a Russian group. However - the feds weren't scrutinizing small edutainment streaming platforms!

Alternatively, I guess it's possible Nebula is some sorta glowie-planned honeypot meant to attract foreign propaganda money & keep it away from funding more visible projects/brainwashing intelligent people that matter (obviously Breadtube fans are lost causes/too stupid to be of concern to security agencies).

& on the topic of speculating glowie bullshit:

Is David Wiskus born on New Years Day, or was he making a pro-terror!st dogwhistle immediately after the New Orleans attack?

Spoiler: his questionable skeet

Birthday? You mean the common codeword used by jihadists to hide their terrorism plans/communications from security agencies like the NSA?

Spoiler: excerpt from a book about stopping terrorists

Note: I currently have a bad cold/fever, so I apologize if the cough syrup might be making me a bit more tin-foil hattish than usual. In my defense, Nebula tankies sure seem like the sorta braindead anti-American commies who'd applaud aloha snackbars for running over innocent Americans.

 

[The_Bladder_Splatter]

What security blunder? Did Nebula get hacked/users locked out of their accounts or something?

TL;DR More Perfect Union is a gravel institute lookalike channel that featured some breadtubbers got most of it's main staff info doxed, oh and it's also apparently being funded by Soros