Neocities and the Yesterweb - The Second Coming of Tumblr. Led by a massive group of extremist hypocrites that go by neopronouns and full of webrings devoted to "transing the internet".

[Coolio55]

then again, it seems like moderation has been slowly cracking down on "controversial" sites if Ass Gazer is to be believed

I mean, they have a big "defund ice" thing on their github and have poasted all sorts of angry crap on twitter so I just assumed it was the case.

 

[Harvey Danger]

wasn't part of it also because some of the people running those sites were genuinely just gaudy people/normal people with a bad eye for colors and design? whereas stuff like this or this (literally has "y2k" and "webcore" in its tags) on neocities is purely derivative and more done to look "retro" than because the owner actually thought it would look good/represent themselves well

I'm reminded of the RedLetterMedia guys when they try to describe what makes a "good bad movie", a movie that is bad but still enjoyable. It happens when the director is honestly trying their hardest to make the best possible movie, but falls hilariously short due to limitations of talent or resources. You can still see the care and earnest effort, like the one good idea that's meticulously shot (while the other 90% of the movie is padding), or in one big scene that clearly took up most of the budget.

By contrast, there's irony-heavy movies that try to intentionally make a funny bad movie, but fail because they're fundamentally lying about what they're doing. It's not enough to wink and smirk at the limitations other people faced, that takes the heart out of it. The whole effort feels dishonest.

That's what the newer NeoCities pages feel like. I've browsed NC over the years and found some genuinely fun sites with the old-school spirit. But the troon stuff feels like the worst kind of narcissistic otaku behavior: slavish attention to some aesthethic detail drawn from the source material, but ultimately trying to show off their own "cred" instead of honoring or expanding the source.

There is a middle ground on NC though. Some pages are used to host projects, becoming a mix between subject matter and personal focus that works. Our own @CrunkLord420 puts his TempleOS games on NC, it's a good example of keeping the old web spirit with more modern aesthetics.

And that makes the troon pages even more pathetic and unnecessary, because it means they have nothing to offer the world other than their narcissism. The Super Mario Bros fan who spergs in 640x480 about easter eggs across 30 years of games, has some deep knowledge to share with the world. People posting projects are creating and giving away useful or fun things. But the alphabet ally with a dozen pixelated pronouns has nothing to give, and nothing to inform you of, other than their terminally inward seethings.

 

[Anonitolia]

Nearly forgot to link this creep, lol
He was brought up in the other thread so I won't be linking to him in the OP, but the long and short of it is that he raped his partner in her sleep due to a fetish and then withdrew from social media to escape backlash. Willingly posted pictures of himself wearing cat paws and acting "cute" in his old "about" page which he has since removed from his site. Also he's a furry who was exposed to porn when he was like 8.

 

[Niggerphobe]

Nearly forgot to link this creep, lol
He was brought up in the other thread so I won't be linking to him in the OP, but the long and short of it is that he raped his partner in her sleep due to a fetish and then withdrew from social media to escape backlash. Willingly posted pictures of himself wearing cat paws and "acting cute" in his old "about" page which he has since removed from his site. Also he's a furry who was exposed to porn when he was like 8.

That’s both sad and horrifying

 

[JelloJerk]

Nearly forgot to link this creep, lol
He was brought up in the other thread so I won't be linking to him in the OP, but the long and short of it is that he raped his partner in her sleep due to a fetish and then withdrew from social media to escape backlash. Willingly posted pictures of himself wearing cat paws and acting "cute" in his old "about" page which he has since removed from his site. Also he's a furry who was exposed to porn when he was like 8.

The Wikipedia page describes it more like sleep walking where they try to have sex instead, rather than a fetish. Apparently the disorder has been used multiple times as a legal defence against rape, so make of that what you will.

 

[Anonitolia]

The Wikipedia page describes it more like sleep walking where they try to have sex instead, rather than a fetish. Apparently the disorder has been used multiple times as a legal defence against rape, so make of that what you will.

That's interesting, but I highly doubt a transgender furry actually suffered from it.

 

[LarpBait]

If hard evidence for neocities bending to the troon horde and censoring can be provided, that may be of some use to normal neocities users.

I wish the normal yesterweb fags and non-soy web 3.0 techbros could come together to make a sane, decentralized web so questions like "will ${PROVIDER} censor us" wouldn't have to be asked. I guess there's always tor and i2p, so maybe the question isn't about technology, just influence.

 

[Anonitolia]

If hard evidence for neocities bending to the troon horde and censoring can be provided, that may be of some use to normal neocities users.

I agree, though I haven't found any yet and it was mentioned offhandedly- hence why I left that info out of the op

I wish the normal yesterweb fags and non-soy web 3.0 techbros could come together to make a sane, decentralized web so questions like "will ${PROVIDER} censor us" wouldn't have to be asked. I guess there's always tor and i2p, so maybe the question isn't about technology, just influence.

yeah, same
unfortunately, I find it pretty

 

[OneMillionRPM]

If hard evidence for neocities bending to the troon horde and censoring can be provided, that may be of some use to normal neocities users.

Surprisingly there doesn't seem to be much, if any. The only site I know of that got banned was that +NIGGER license site (now relocated) which was to be expected. But I've seen a few right-wing sites that are still up to this day. So maybe you can post whatever as long as you're not calling for TND/TTD or spewing gamer words, or those sites have just been doing a good job staying under the radar.

 

[Anonitolia]

how is the forum still up it was supposed to be deleted 2 weeks ago

 

[888Flux]

It's about time someone made a thread on these people. These are the same people who talk about wanting to "return to the glory days of the old internet" while using platforms like Discord and adding Google Analytics inline scripts to their cute and quirky neocities website. It's nothing but virtue signalling. Most of these mental patients are too young to have any concept of how the Internet actually was, so they instead participate in a circlejerk Simulacra of what they think it was. I would like to give them a opportunity to go back and relive those days and laugh at everyone calling them a retarded faggot.

They can't do the bare minimum to decouple from the modern centralized web like deactivating their social media or using a self-hosted XMPP instance. Because that would limit the attention they get which is ultimately all their "movement" is about. They lack the initiative to apply real solutions to the complex landscape of problems facing the Internet so instead they talk about "aesthetics" and whatever other nonsense in their Discord hugbox.

Excellent write up OP. I had planned to make something similar but laziness overcame me.

 

[Anonitolia]

Apparently "code thieving" is a thing on the site, and this webmaster hates it. Going to keep my eyes peeled for any future mentions of the term, can't tell if this is just one autist or a culture-wide thing yet.

 

[OneMillionRPM]

Apparently "code thieving" is a thing on the site, and this webmaster hates it. Going to keep my eyes peeled for any future mentions of the term, can't tell if this is just one autist or a culture-wide thing yet.

I guess in the absence of Sonic OCs, the kids yell "DONUT STEEL" about their cookie-cutter site designs instead. And I bet he ganked his from somewhere else anyway.

 

[Coolio55]

Apparently "code thieving" is a thing on the site, and this webmaster hates it. Going to keep my eyes peeled for any future mentions of the term, can't tell if this is just one autist or a culture-wide thing yet.

That's pretty strange. From what I've seen over the years, most neocities users actively share stuff on git repo sites.
I've seen plemnty of CSS frameworks and more than one static CMS.

 

[Anonitolia]

in the absence of Sonic OCs

right as you fucking said this I found one while scrolling through an art gallery

don't you dare curse me like that again

 

[the hustler cat]

Apparently "code thieving" is a thing on the site, and this webmaster hates it. Going to keep my eyes peeled for any future mentions of the term, can't tell if this is just one autist or a culture-wide thing yet.

It definitely is a big deal on neocities among the younger crowd. The first time I saw major discourse around it was when Dokodemo posted this article.

For those that don't know, Dokodemo is an 18 year old, high school dropout TIF in love with a squid who at a certain point had one of the most followed pages on neocities. Her earlier attempts at webmastery can be found here. She got into a lot of drama with strawbabie because apparently dokodemo's good friend was a self admitted pedophile. Some added discussion about the situation here.

The pedos original site was roxelle.neocities.org. Dokodemo ended up issuing some kind of an apology about it detailing her sob story, closed down her edgy 4chan-lite TIF circlejerk discord and closed down her site. She later came back to neocities with the social media section of the profile closed. The timeline of the events might be inaccurate because fuck, it's been a while. This post is a good summary of the whole pedo friend situation. Keep in mind they were all (allegedly) underage teens while this was happening.

The tangent aside there's a certain webmaster under the current name swirl (formerly known as purinland and yawnguro) whose site keeps getting stolen again (guest appearance by strawbabie under the name tumor in here), and again, and again, and again to the point I feel like somebody has a grudge against her. She spends a lot of her time whining about it (and shutting her sites down) in the status updates section instead of just ignoring it.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Good thread, cant keep up with it cause too much cancer to look at but pretty good autismos.

 

[Chimerical]

There is an offshoot community of the Yesterweb called 32-bit Cafe (archive). From my understanding, it was made after people got uncomfortable with the kink talk happening in the Discord. The site seems to focus more on oldweb nostalgia fagging than Marxist stuff, but that was the purpose stated on the Yesterweb site before its real intent got revealed, so...

Would you like some cancer? There's an article on opsec (archive) and they have a "pride zine" where a bunch of sites create a dedicated webpage to talk about their Queer Experience.
Main page (archive)
Trans rats (archive) - seizure inducing graphics
Lost Letters (archive) - pansexual, partner is an MTF
Flamed fury (archive) - pride but New Zealand
Sbcv (archive) - essay about trannies not being jerked off enough by the UK media
Defenestration (archive) - magnet poetry
Space bar (archive) - looks like gay fanfic
Carl Bettis (archive) - nothing much but has two further pride pages here and here
Key's Klubhouse (archive) - MUST CONSOOM RAINBOW ITEMS!!!
Xandra (archive) - the person in charge of 32-bit Cafe. Bisexual in a straight relationship, complaining about not being kweer enough.
Kyou.eu.org also has a zine entry, but the site is having server problems as of writing and I cannot access for archiving. An archive of the index exists but nothing else.

I have archived the entire site on archive.ph in the instance the site goes down.

 

[Anonitolia]

There's an article on opsec (archive) and they have a "pride zine" where a bunch of sites create a dedicated webpage to talk about their Queer Experience.

but of course
this is Neocities, after all

I had no idea about the 32-bit cafe; I guess it's a bit more well-hidden or something.
I also highly, highly doubt that it won't go the same way as Yesterweb seeing as the landing page contains this little nugget of wisdom.

That, and the fact that the majority of its userbase seems to be identical to Yesterweb's lol.

I mean for god's sake, it links to a forum that was explicitly promoted as a "new Yesterweb" on the forums before they shut down and still has a Discord. This is totally gonna be Yesterweb 2.0 lol.

-snip-

ah, yeah, I remember reading about this when going through the lolcow thread
seriously considering adding the ordeal to the OP, though the OP is already getting pretty long and this is more centered around individuals in the community than the community itself like most of the post is...

 

[Ass Gazer]

I found this site ywnbaw.neocities.org. It is just the YWNBA copypasta. It has been up since December 2022 and has been viewed over 400 times. It is findable by browsing neocites using the tag "transgender" so it doesn't look like it is being delisted from search.

In another thread null had linked to this site antiwomanbrands.neocities.org which is a list of brands that you should boycott because they support tranny shit.

So I am still wondering if neocities does censor anti-woke or right leaning stuff. It looks like maybe they dont based on the above.