NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

It helped that there wasn't an indie scene to speak of, such that all games coming out were from serious studios putting out serious effort games so the quality was usually higher than it is today. On the other hand, as you say, game journos actually played the games to completion back then and got good/wrote guides for some of the companion mags or strategy guides. I miss the 80's & 90's era publications, before the internet really ruined it.
I disagree that there was no 'indie' scene, but it probably didn't look like the current 'indie' trend today. Sierra, for example, pretty much started out in Roberta Williams's kitchen. Fewer hipsters, more people willing to put their shoulders to the boulder.

I admit I don't miss having to pay for gaming guides and FAQs. I treasure an encounter I had in a bookstore where I explained to a teenager that he didn't need to buy the Prima guide for FF7, and that there was a MUCH better guide on this website called 'GameFAQs'.
 
I apologize for being :late::late: with this, and I know it wasn't even said as a post here on the farms, but DAMN if "Polly will either have a dick or she won't." Isn't random.txt material.

I love how that idiot made a name for himself by being an edgemeister about HuniePop being NSFW and brazen and unapologetically trashy and now he's mewling and being a fucking cuck about having a futa bitch in his stupid game. What a pathetic asshole.
 
Is there a list of banned Youtubers yet?

So far I've got Jontron and Digibro. Probably goes without saying that the likes of Sargon are banned but having a nice list of non-"skeptics" would be cool. Dunkey was banned but that Chicken Wing video had a thread seemed to do just fine.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dear-crunchyroll-stop-digibro.63817/

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They're oddly selective in their anti-pedo bans.

I suspect they care more about people criticizing a corporation.

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Also, apparently a few Resetera users watch the Dick Show for some reason...
 
I disagree that there was no 'indie' scene, but it probably didn't look like the current 'indie' trend today. Sierra, for example, pretty much started out in Roberta Williams's kitchen. Fewer hipsters, more people willing to put their shoulders to the boulder.
I guess as big as Sierra got, I didn't really consider them "indie," even though they eventually went under. I am thunkful now.
 

Huh that's fucking weird. Either I'm an idiot or something happened, cause when I looked at the list at the time I swear it was just several games including one or two Nutaku games. huh...

Going through the FULL list now though...I see they have a real beef with the Sakura series. Not even porn half the time, just ecchi cocktease. I can personally say Kamidori's a fun RPG VN, porn scenes aside, so that's par for the course of hating fun. And they seem to hate Illusion Studio's guts. Some of the others don't ring a bell, but Maiden Rape Assault...allow me to power level here and admit I played every route in that. I will give ResetEra that one. It's a fucking garbage visual novel that deserves no discussion beyond how insanely over the top its name is. I'll also give them RapeLay, not Illusion's best, but also one of their oldest and most outdated/horribly aged 3D porn games.

Other than that, this just seems like hating shit for the sake of controversy and/or because it has anime tits.

It came out during Gamergate and a lot of pro-GG people bought the game specifically because the journos hated it.

I thought it was panned because it was an attempt to sell a mediocre game with rampant edgelording?

REEEEEEEsetera probably bought the line about how the developers were LITERAL NAZIS and therefore it must be memory holed.

Also, didn't they memory hole Kingdom Come for insufficient POC?

I thought it was because it pretty much glorified spree killing myself. I've never played it, but I did watch Metokur do a vid on it once just to give an idea of it, and it was actually a solid game showcase video that showed the good qualities of the game off(I personally think he should do those more often).

I forgot it came out during Gamergate though. And yes, they basically hated Kingdom Come: Deliverance because it didn't have enough black people in it, and the 'intelligent' argument levied against the devs when they expressed the historical accuracy were little more than "that's bullshit, gibs representation", and knowing places like Era it was probably majority from cucked white soyboys.

Also, in general regards to the old gaming journo scene: yeah, I fucking loved it. I hate what it's become. I'd get free gaming mags back then just to enjoy reading about games on a nice paper mag. I like that things are more evolved now, but if I want game news/journalism I find one of those relatively impartial sites every other journo/hivemind like Era want blasted into the sun. That or youtubers.

Edit: Oh my god I'm fucking retarded, I confused the Twitch list with that small ResetEra list under their rules. Fuck me.

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What is with their obsession with "representation?" Do they think that trans characters in videogames will finally turn them into a real woman?
Reminds me of a study that escapes me right now, but basically it said that people identify as their player character when they play video games, not with them. It's how you get bizarre situations like people crying over a Pokemon game of all things. Just read the comments on that video.

Representation isn't important in video games at all. It doesn't further society in any way, and the only thing it does for the company is make their character more recognizable compared to other protagonists. But from a consumer's standpoint, it might as well be a sentient pink ball for how much character design matters to them, and they'll still relate to or just identify as the character.

People who whine about representation in video games are guaranteed to either be virtue signaling or not understand video games to begin with. It just doesn't matter, and even if we did achieve widespread "representation in video games," nothing will change other than these people will have to find something new to whine about.

You're referring to Sunset, the game in which you play a black housekeeper taking care of the apartment of some rich fucker while a vastly more interesting story is going on around you that you have no meaningful involvement in. While there's many jokes you can make about the game, Bro Team Pill will synopse it for me beautifully:


What's amazing about this title is that it officially marks the end of the Indie Dev Astroturf era on Steam, because this specific title was the first one released after Steam's refund policy. Since Sunset is really fucking short, like all of Tale of Tales games, the change in policy meant this fucking game got exactly what it deserved.

You also left out the best part: Namely, the dev's reactions to his game bombing:

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Tale of Tales had a complete meltdown on Twitter in which they blamed gamers for not buying his shitty walking simulator.

I actually found a few old issues of mid-to-late 90s issues of GamePro the other day. I was actually impressed by how, for the most part, the reviews were largely impartial. There were fuck-ups here and there, but nothing like the shameless corporate dicksucking we have today. Games that were candy-coated shit got called out on it, and most of the time analysis pieces were surprisingly spot-on. A lot of the tips were genuinely good, coming from people who actually knew their shit and who had clearly played the fucking game to completion. They were by no means perfect, or even particularly great, but the difference between then and now is night and day.
Oh, this game. I watched a friend play Sunset and it's so boring. My friend in particular had more fun trying to see how badly he could tank the graphics settings and if he could break the game (which he did, with multiple instances him being able to leave early since the game doesn't stop you from just walking out of a room where you would otherwise need to watch a bunch of scripted events). But I actually tried to pay attention to the story and your character just does absolutely nothing but commentate. Even from a storytelling perspective, the game is horrible.

(Also keep in mind, this dev created what literally began the walking simulator moniker with their game "The Graveyard," where you walk down a graveyard as an old woman for about three minutes and then it ends.)

But of course, you had droves of people (including posters on NeoGAF) claiming it was revolutionary because it had a black woman as a protagonist...who you never saw outside of faded reflections in the window. To these people, the quality of a game's gameplay or writing is second to precious, precious "representation." Even though a good game with a character part of some Western minority would be better immortalized than a terrible game with the same character.
 
Also, apparently a few Resetera users watch the Dick Show for some reason..
That's curious. I would expect the dick show to be like chernobyl to these people.

Reminds me of a study that escapes me right now, but basically it said that people identify as their player character when they play video games, not with them.
That's arguably much, much better. Imagine being a FWM and playing a game where your protagonist is a black man, or a lesbian, or a communist squid alien or whatever, and you identify as the character so much that you don't even notice yourself doing it, because that's how little the surface differences mean to you. Isn't that where we're all supposed to be?
 
You're referring to Sunset, the game in which you play a black housekeeper taking care of the apartment of some rich fucker while a vastly more interesting story is going on around you that you have no meaningful involvement in. While there's many jokes you can make about the game, Bro Team Pill will synopse it for me beautifully:


tl;dw of that video: "This shit's so pretentious, it just gave me a fuckin film school degree."

Tale of Tales had a complete meltdown on Twitter in which they blamed gamers for not buying his shitty walking simulator.

And they're now begging for Patreon money for doing nothing. They went from defiant to begging to suck dicks for tenners.

https://www.patreon.com/MichaelSamyn
http://archive.is/nsKFw (old archive)
http://archive.is/24XB0 (current archive)

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Partially related, Jim may make a video with a few characters we know and love.

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Wonder if it's related to this.
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It's really a shame ResetEra doesn't do something about their centrism problem, women and PoCs are fleeing for their lives on a daily basis.
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