NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

Everyone on the internet despises Resetera for being a extreme woke shitfest, and this guy makes it seem like Resetera is a white supremacy den (or kiwi farms 2.0)... Something is not right here.

You can't expect these lunatics to use linear logic. They're guided purely by emotion. Whatever feels the worst is their personal truth. Pure psychic anarchy.
 
You think the people that used to be users on the SomethingAwful forums post on ResetEra?

Or has that question been answered already?

Of course they do. Unmodulated screeching about troon bullshit while also using an iron fist to silence wrong think? Reeks of SA.
 
There's a surprising amount of sensible-think in that thread. Though it's no surprise that they've tied themselves in knots ideologically.

"Games aren't political enough! Games need to be more political!"
"Being apolitical is a political statement!"
"Everything is political!"
 

Imagine living this life and being incapable of having any fun. The zoo animals on Resetera really are the most miserable sacks of shit on the planet.

Are they are ever not tired, depressed and upset?

I love how they took CDPR saying that they're not making changes to their completed storyline as "THERS NO POLITIKS IN CYBARPANK"
 
Everyone on the internet despises Resetera for being an extreme woke shitfest, and this guy makes it seem like Resetera is a white supremacy den (or kiwi farms 2.0)... Something is not right here.
There's an old post that covers it pretty well, indeed Reeeee's even cited as an example as a microcosm of this phenomenon. The tl;dr is that the entire social dynamic is an endless treadmill to be the most ideologically pure and those that fail to meet the ever higher ethical standards are eaten. Mendinso is the epitome of "the revolution eats its own".
Reports are starting to come back from campuses, and it's been interesting to read. The bulk of students who are doing the unthinkable crime of looking for answers are quickly learning that - no, over half the country isn't racist, sexist, or homophobic, and by saying they are, they've denied themselves the ability to debunk Trump's legit flaws on merit.

The rest of the clique has been doubling down; this means the next phase is about to begin.

If you want to know how Social Justice dies, check below the spoiler tag and follow helpful text diagram below:

This is all based upon pre-existing data. All evidence is that Social Justice will follow the exact decline as every other movement that precededed it. Steps that have already happened are going to be in green, ones in the process of happening are yellow, ones about to happen are orange, and ones going to happen down the line are red.

1. Systemic Losses
The death of Social Justice begins with losses. The first step in a group like it starting to collapse is breaking its back. Because Social Justice is heavily leader-focused, and tends to attract people who are out of their fucking minds, they tend to lose when they face organized resistance - whether it's from people who simply won't be shamed or people willing to insult them openly. Once they're chimping, their greatest strength - social networking - is easily turned against them, and no amount of echo chambering is enough to soften the blows.

Anyone who follows Social Justice on the Farms will know it's been one loss after another with these groups for years: First, Social Justice lost to a bunch of fucking spergs who play Vidya. They tried to frame this los as anything but what it was (unmitigated disasters for their own side, ones that went on to make several in their own camp "wake up" and turn on the cult), but the truth was obvious to anyone looking: They lost. While the big "names" in Social Justice lost a lot - their careers (Chipman, Dina, Rapp, etc), professional reputation (Wu, Quinn, Gallant, Nyberg), and more, the GG spergs had lost absolutely nothing because the spergs were already labelled Satan by the establishment (thus having nowhere downward to go), and moreover, no reason to give a shit what other people thought. The result was Social Justice doubling down, claiming a win when they didn't actually have one, and declaring that Gamergate was being enabled by people talking about it and thus showing that everyone hates women (somehow).

GG didn't in any way cause or enable Trump's candidacy, but it painted the perfect picture of Social Justice's biggest weak points and how to fight them, which is why Brexit punched them so hard in the dick. Then, as now, we saw hand-wringing, whinging, and arguments that it was the end of days. None of that proved true and his, again, woke people up - and again, the result was Social Justice doubling down and getting even crazier in pursuit of ideological purity, arguing that Brexit happened because of Islamophobia and racism, when everyone familiar knew the reason was shit like Rotherham and Cologne.

The loss of Hillary is the second time they've lost using this candidate (the first time was to the scary black man that they openly hated), and the third time they've gotten openly crushed to this degree. All the fearmongering they used - over Gamergate, and then again over Brexit - didn't do jack and shit because so many people had seen this same tactic used over and over and over again for years. The result has been, again, more doubling down, this time to the point where they've chased away too many of the filthy normies and have nobody to blame but the faithful at this point.

2.Circular Firing Squads
The dust is settling from the election, but these people are looking, desperately, for someone to scapegoat. Social Justice is a land of moral absolutism; you're either good or bad, and good means complete capitulation to the party line. But when the party line leads to loss after loss, it gets harder to justify, especially when that party line migrates into Crazytown and begins with accusing half the country of being racist and homophobic.

When the dust settles, and the group is faced with the realization that their own ideology led to the loss, they react differently depending on who is involved. Rank-and-file members will realize they were lied to, and fuck off for greener pastures or try to find a better way (becoming enemies of great SocJus in the process, of course). The true believers have no choice, as we've seen, but to double down, and this will inevitably lead to fracturing as the rank and file point out the obvious, which is that they're fucking losing. Inevitably, they will start looking for a scapegoat they can blame for the loss. It will start with blaming the usual suspects - Whitey and men in general - but that will soon lose effect because the victory clearly invovled Trump winning areas that defy this claim, such as women, minorities, and LGBT people. The fact that Trump will not actually create an anti-homosexual laser satellite (surely to several Kiwis' disappointment) will further bring them rage because they're left without anything to attack directly - and that's where the hunt begins.

It's critical to note that unlike most grassroots groups, the likes of Social Justice is extremely reliant on force of personality and charismatic individuals (such as they are) to keep the plebs in line. Many SocJus leaders are practically lionized, to the point where a picture of Anita Sarkeesian with a halo was a header on Gamerghazi for months. This central focus tends to result in very powerful leaders, but also acts as an Achilles' heel; if one of the group is discredited or caught doing something retarded, it forces them to circle the wagons and waste resources and time defending someone who by all accounts would have gotten cut loose anywhere else (Nyberg for instance), sacrificing their credibility in the process. If two "leaders" come into conflict - even just through skirmishing of their clique - the fallout is obvious.

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Which of course brings us to where we're at right now. In a mad desire to stay relevant, the cliques will begin to make war with one another, blaming not-themselves for the loss - after all, it was all those filthy free-thinkers who wouldn't simply accept the bullshit line about Trump hating women. Meanwhile another camp will blame BLM for its anti-police shit, and another will blame the DNC for coronating Hillary and screwing the democratic electorate. It's complete pandemonium as the usual suspects fight a desperate losing battle to maintain their power structures as the alliance they so carefully built-up over the last few years starts to crumble. On DailyKos right now, for example, there's been dozens of threads essentially declaring that Bernie was right and the DNC was retarded, agitating the userbase to a pants-shitting rage, but they can't silence the sheer volume of dissent. As the infighting starts, the ability to narrative-push dies and one of the key strengths of the group is lost.

3. The Purges Begin
This is where the chimpouts start to go nuclear. We've already started to see a bit of it, with people blaming other groups outright and skirmishing with one another on Social Media, and the assassination threats mean this is about to hit full burn. As they circle and desperately look for anything to blame for the loss, the inevitable will happen: Their own safespaces will become coffins. They'll echo chamber hard - just like their predecessors did - on private forums where a handful of people will believe what they say without question and they can exhibit dictatorial control, Vade-style, over a tiny shred of followers. This will do nothing for their public image which will continue to deteriorate as the faithful act more and more fucking crazy, alienating more fucking normies. A few will get nice visits from those men in black with sunglasses who want to know why they just advocated killing American citizens.

Eventually even mildly critical voices will be chased out, leading to CON-style leaks and subsequently even bigger chimp-outs. The wars between the cliques will intensify and soon they'll be at one another's throats, abandoning whatever the fuck they originally purported to care about in favor of waging a campaign of terror to gain some small shred of their old power and influence, believing that if they can achieve some level of ideological purity, they'll be vindicated. It never works.

The smarter ones will take the money and run, and quit the field before things get worse; cannier ones may try to spin it to their advantage, but the crabs-in-a-bucket mentality will kick in, and they'll be just as jealous of one another and grasping for power as they were before. They'll take pot-shots at one another; they'll blame one another, and in some cases, they'll go full Chloe Sagal.

This leads to a constant climate of fear, and soonafter, the communities will lie abandoned, save for the true faithful.

Finally, the worst part comes: Without any ability to control the narrative, their biggest asset has been lost, and at this point the money starts to leave as well. This spells certain death because without the influx of cash, the agenda pushing doesn't fucking happen, save from the crazies, further damning them. This leaves the true believers as the only holders of "the message," and leads to the last step.

4. The Collapse
Here, specifically, is where the end is.

Social Justice in its final phase dies with a whimper, ultimately being reduced to nothing more than a living meme, same as the Christian Coalition, Tea Party, and Occupy before it, and for the exact same reasons - being co-opted by people who are certifiable nutcases and have zero credibility whatsoever. Whether it was the Christian Coalition's members getting caught soliciting gay sex (to the point where it was a meme decades ago), to the the Tea Party becoming synonymous with Orly Taitz, to the Occupy movement finding the two most fucking insane people on the planet to send as representatives to talk to the press, this step is the one that marks the end of anyone to take them seriously.

By this point the money has dried up, they've been abandoned by the establishment and left to wither away, and the bulk of their leadership, central to their operations, has fucked off to greener pastures or become so crazy that they're practically memes in and of themselves, if not Lolcows.

They will not be missed, except as something to ridicule.
 
Era discovers the VA for James Sunderland is a nutjob (who doesn't believe in AIIIIIDDDDDDDSSSSSS) so time for SH2 cancellations and terrible plot analysis!

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I struggle to try and think of any way you arrive at this conclusion unironically but that's what makes Era great I guess. James hated women so much he went out of his way to rescue Angela from being attacked by a monster representing her father raping her and possibly adapted a young girl. Makes sense to me!

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Pretty sure it was more the years of mental strain he went through while Mary was slowly dying combined with the endless emotional abuse his wife was subjecting him to that caused him to snap but what do I know. I do know that most people who murder their loved ones out of selfishness (whoops I spoiled this 25 year old game) don't immediately invent an imaginary letter from that loved one sending them to a ghost town filled with monsters that at no point they consider leaving.

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In this instance her "agency" refers to the knife she was about to use to kill herself with. I guess the non-misogynist thing to do is to not rescue women ever. The more you know!

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The "dying of cancer doesn't remove your privilege" mod appearing in an SH2 thread is comedy gold.

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This is like finding out the guy who voiced Simba in the original Lion King is an idiot and then saying the one that came out last year is the superior version now

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Not gonna defend James cause he was parhetic...but thats the point? He conjures sexy nurse and execution demons to "help" him through his trauma cause he can't deal with it. Not once in the story or various endings is he heroic. Just enjoy the game, christ

That's kind of the whole point: That James is comprehensively fucked-up but his love for Mary was genuine. Most of the characters in SH2 are deeply, brutally flawed in that same fashion, and it makes for intriguing storytelling. Amnesia stories on their own are a dime a million; what makes SH2 work is the way it chooses to tell its story, and how its characters act and react.
 

The incels in this topic discuss their plans to REEEE about Persona 5 on the gaming side, here we go...


Absolute zoo.

Thankfully these people are all sterilised or won't breed. We need losers like the ones on Resetera to die alone like Hecht and Besada.

All is not well in the Asian summit topic (you need an active Resetera account to browse this)

Poodlestrike
I'm open to changing a lot. It's the one specific piece of feedback I'm responding to there - that you want to be able to push back on individual mods, not just the team - that isn't okay, for the reasons I outlined.

But maybe I'm getting my wires crossed here. We're definitely open to considering more feedback when handling bans. People often re-report posts that got banned with additional explanations, and although we don't always agree with their interpretation, we have reversed bans in the past based on additional feedback. And although moderation will always be a team effort, we have also been discussing ideas on how to empower individual mods without going too far into letting them have free reign without accountability. We'll drop ideas into the thread as we have more concrete ideas to share.

Reeeing Chinks
Honestly, Poodlestrike, did you even run your responses by the committee? Because if I were a member of staff here, doing my best to make a good faith effort to engage and understand users' concerns and saw your post, I'd be pissed that you're taking a dump over all my effort.

The way I see it, there are two possible scenarios here: either you did, and you're answering for the team--which would show all of us that you guys really don't actually care about what we have to say--or you didn't and just think you're speaking for them when you aren't. And in the case of the latter, this is exactly why committee management doesn't work.


PLEASE STOP RELENTLESSNESS MOD-WHINING

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Palestinian hater PoodleStrike is panicking and dishing out the ASIAN BANS


And this gem happened as well


This forum is a complete zoo.
 
Era discovers the VA for James Sunderland is a nutjob (who doesn't believe in AIIIIIDDDDDDDSSSSSS) so time for SH2 cancellations and terrible plot analysis!

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I struggle to try and think of any way you arrive at this conclusion unironically but that's what makes Era great I guess. James hated women so much he went out of his way to rescue Angela from being attacked by a monster representing her father raping her and possibly adapted a young girl. Makes sense to me!

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Pretty sure it was more the years of mental strain he went through while Mary was slowly dying combined with the endless emotional abuse his wife was subjecting him to that caused him to snap but what do I know. I do know that most people who murder their loved ones out of selfishness (whoops I spoiled this 25 year old game) don't immediately invent an imaginary letter from that loved one sending them to a ghost town filled with monsters that at no point they consider leaving.

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In this instance her "agency" refers to the knife she was about to use to kill herself with. I guess the non-misogynist thing to do is to not rescue women ever. The more you know!

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The "dying of cancer doesn't remove your privilege" mod appearing in an SH2 thread is comedy gold.

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This is like finding out the guy who voiced Simba in the original Lion King is an idiot and then saying the one that came out last year is the superior version now

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This is frustrating to see. Imagine people so incapable of separating the art from the artist. Here they don't even have to do this as the VA would have had 0 input on anything in the game other then the voice acting of the character anyway. There is no way his thoughts and feelings were informing anything in the game especially considering the game isn't about AAAAIIIIIIIDDDDDSSSSS. Can't enjoy this thing I enjoyed for 25 years because today I learned somebody whose opinions I never cared about before is a dumb ass. Fuck all those other people that worked on the game and put their passion into it to make a good game I guess.

If you want to enjoy the game and also still want to be a massive pussy you can always just mute the game when James starts talking and then its like his voice actor doesn't exist.
 

The incels in this topic discuss their plans to REEEE about Persona 5 on the gaming side, here we go...


Absolute zoo.

Thankfully these people are all sterilised or won't breed. We need losers like the ones on Resetera to die alone like Hecht and Besada.
Luckily Japan and China love money and waifus print the green so the likelihood of this hitting the homefront are small.

Unluckily Sony,Microsoft and Atlus' American divisions are staffed by spineless retards who have been hoodwinked by the wokefad so 50/50 on whether something happens here.
 
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