Nerd/geek culture, self-identification, and the Nerd Police

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But I still feel like I have no idea who I am, what makes me, me. I know I fit in here, which is nice, but I wish I knew what kind of person I am, because all my life I've been one of those people who does things to please others to fit in.
Yeah, I know that, shit like that drives me nuts. I've got a wedding to go to, and I hate events like that. I feel like I've got to be an actor for six hours, so I can prance around and deal with people I don't care about and present an image of myself to them that's family friendly.

I mean, sure, I do it for people I care about, because I can sacrifice my comfort for, say, my family once in awhile. But I'm dreading this wedding. (teeheehee, that rhymed)
 
Yeah, not surprised that the person in that video rags on Big Bang Theory, you'd think that program was the modern equivalent of the racist sitcoms from the 70's by the way some people whinge about it, it's a comedy, get the fuck over yourselves.

The current thing that really pisses me off is the level of exclusion displayed in the gaming community, and self identified "hardcore" gamers who sneer derisively at anybody who dares to enjoy games that don't fall within their narrow tastes and arbitrarily defined borders of what a "hardcore" game is. How dare they enjoy Candy Crush! Nintendo? That's for kids! etc.
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The way some of these people go on is almost like Chris' reactions to when folk like Alec started fucking around with his Sonichu universe. It's like they see outsiders as people who are polluting their chosen hugbox and are ruining it for them, despite the fact that it makes no fucking difference to the way they themselves interact with and enjoy their hobby.

Some folk are just desperate to be "special"
 
Yeah, not surprised that the person in that video rags on Big Bang Theory, you'd think that program was the modern equivalent of the racist sitcoms from the 70's by the way some people whinge about it, it's a comedy, get the fuck over yourselves.

The current thing that really pisses me off is the level of exclusion displayed in the gaming community, and self identified "hardcore" gamers who sneer derisively at anybody who dares to enjoy games that don't fall within their narrow tastes and arbitrarily defined borders of what a "hardcore" game is. How dare they enjoy Candy Crush! Nintendo? That's for kids! etc.
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The way some of these people go on is almost like Chris' reactions to when folk like Alec started fucking around with his Sonichu universe. It's like they see outsiders as people who are polluting their chosen hugbox and are ruining it for them, despite the fact that it makes no fucking difference to the way they themselves interact with and enjoy their hobby.

Some folk are just desperate to be "special"

So in other words...autism.
 
Yeah, not surprised that the person in that video rags on Big Bang Theory, you'd think that program was the modern equivalent of the racist sitcoms from the 70's by the way some people whinge about it, it's a comedy, get the fuck over yourselves.
Haha, yeah. Big Bang Theory is shit because it's super dumb, not because it's stereotyping nerds.

The current thing that really pisses me off is the level of exclusion displayed in the gaming community, and self identified "hardcore" gamers who sneer derisively at anybody who dares to enjoy games that don't fall within their narrow tastes and arbitrarily defined borders of what a "hardcore" game is. How dare they enjoy Candy Crush! Nintendo? That's for kids! etc.
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The way some of these people go on is almost like Chris' reactions to when folk like Alec started fucking around with his Sonichu universe. It's like they see outsiders as people who are polluting their chosen hugbox and are ruining it for them, despite the fact that it makes no fucking difference to the way they themselves interact with and enjoy their hobby.

Some folk are just desperate to be "special"
Heh, yeah, like, me, Alec and some other trolls hang out in mumble. And they've all been playing games for years, it's not like they're novices or anything like that. I'm not much of a gamer, but I'm aware of the "hardcore" gamer shtick. So when I'm in mumble, and I listen to them talking about video games, I'm like "huh, so this is what a well adjusted gamer sounds like..."
 
This guy really hates TBBT, and people on the internet love to bash it, not knowing what a satire is.

I've never known what to identify myself as, I've always just felt like the weird, strange, creepy, thick, awkward person who doesn't know where to fit herself in.
You're silentprincess of the CWCki forums.
 
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This guy really hates TBBT, and people on the internet love to bash it, not knowing what a satire is.
Eh... I don't know. Basically, the characters are pretty corny, but they're just real enough to seem like they were the writer's legit goal. I'm not seeing how they're satirizing anything.
 
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Eh... I don't know. Basically, the characters are pretty corny, but they're just real enough to seem like they were the writer's legit goal. I'm not seeing how they're satirizing anything.
Maybe satire wasn't the right word. The thing about TBBT is it's a comedy, maybe the producers did try to make legit nerds. That's the one show that if you say you like it, BOOM! "Faker" "Poser" "Wannabe"
 
Maybe satire wasn't the right word. The thing about TBBT is it's a comedy, maybe the producers did try to make legit nerds. That's the one show that if you say you like it, BOOM! "Faker" "Poser" "Wannabe"
Faker? See, I don't get that. It's such a dumb show in first place, who takes it seriously? Really, if someone's asserting you're claiming or they're getting on your ass about how your nerdery is phony, I'd start taking stock about how important this person's opinion is in the first place. There really can't be an important person saying this?
 
The thing that gets me about the whole IT crowd/TBBT dichotomy though is that like, with the IT crowd they did a pretty realistic representation of nerds down to them being socially maladjusted and working shit jobs in a tech department with few to no friends, whereas in TBBT, like yeah they're all eccentric and weird, but they're all well off, with good paying jobs and a large circle of friends. Wouldn't you rather have someone presenting you as someone who is just a little strange but otherwise alright than presenting you as someone who would tell a midget they're too small to do their job correctly and pretend to be disabled just because they couldn't be bothered to wait in line for the toilet?

Like, I don't like TBBT at all and I am kind of a fan of the IT crowd, but like TBBT puts their nerds in a much better light than the IT crowd did.
 
It's funny how serious this guys take the "Real Nerd" thing on the internet but as soon as they step out of the hugbox, they are the most depressed people ever. (For example Homer and his "Woe is me" sthick about not finding a white girl to be his girlfriend)
 
Yeah, I know that, shit like that drives me nuts. I've got a wedding to go to, and I hate events like that. I feel like I've got to be an actor for six hours, so I can prance around and deal with people I don't care about and present an image of myself to them that's family friendly.

I mean, sure, I do it for people I care about, because I can sacrifice my comfort for, say, my family once in awhile....
I know what you mean. There are people who cause scenes because they "refuse to compromise who I am blah blah," but if I'm in a situation where I'm not the intended focus, I'll suck it up for the people that are.
 
Meh, I kind of get it. I'm something of a "nerd" myself; I play tabletop RPGs, grew up watching Doctor Who and Star Trek (the original series), have a decent comic collection, wear pop culture shirts, read urban fantasy novels, I even own a freaking sword (granted, its only for show, but still). But even I think its ridiculous for "nerds" to compare themselves to the American Indians or Jews or blacks or any other group that has gone through genuine oppression in recent times. Nerds have never been rounded up and sent to concentration camps. Nerds have never been banned from speaking their language or had their children taken away from them to be raised by people from another culture. Nerds have never been shot or poisoned or raped en masse simply for being nerds and then had their persecutors go free. Someone saying mean things about you isn't the same. Someone wearing the same shirt REALLY isn't the same.

Of course, just because its not actually genocide doesn't mean it can't still sting just a little. To be honest, I do view the current popularity of "nerd culture" as a mixed blessing of sorts. On the one hand, I'm happy to know that things I like are popular. It means that my favourite series might last a little longer. It means that they might actually put stuff out on DVD after all these years. It means there might be more new merchandise I can buy. It means some of my favourite actors and artists might make more convention appearances. All of that is good news to me. Plus, I like the idea that there are women who are into fandom. Really, there always have been, its just they haven't always been the most visible faces of the subculture. I'm proud to say that my last ex got into nerd subculture through me.

On the other hand, it is a little infuriating when douchebag hipsters latch onto something and then act like they knew about it before you. But then, that's true for just about any fad. And yes, there are people who latch onto just about anything simply because its popular (at the time). All of their smugness aside, I think part of what bothers me about it is that I actually lived through it. Again, I was kind of a nerdy kid, and I'll be amongst the first to admit it. I got bullied at times, and I wasn't always the most popular guy. I had my fair share of rejection. Hell, that's part of why I can feel a bit of empathy for Chris (though even that wears thin when he starts doing things like accusing firefighters of stealing from him...) Of course, I was also into metal and goth, so I had a little edge to me, and by the time I got to university I was much more socially adept. But its kind of annoying to see the "popular" people pretend that they were social outcasts. And yes, I realize that makes me sound rather petty.

Thankfully, trends come and go, so eventually the hipster kids will move on to... well something else. Probably dressing like Puritans with tights and bucklehats or something. I don't know. In the meantime, I'm going to hold out hope that the whole "geek chic" trend will give us some cool stuff. Like another season of Firefly, or a Sandman movie.
 
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