New Picard Series to fuse Prime and Kelvin timelines - That's a nice boyhood hero you have there...

SkeletonBias420 said:
I don't really see this as "fusing" them. Romulus blowing up and Spock disappearing always took place in the main universe. I'm sure there will be serious problems with the Picard show, but I don't think taking a Praxis-redux that already occurred and building on it a bit is really one of them.

edit: The article headline is just nerd-rage clickbait. Nothing has been said anywhere about integrating the Abrams movies beyond the stuff established to have happened in the main universe which no one should be surprised about.


Go watch The Expanse.
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As I understand it, the Picard show has to be a set in the Kelvin/whateverthefuckwe'recallingittoday universes due to licencing issues. The assumption I've heard is a 25% variation from TOS/TNG/DS9/Voy/Ent, due to CBS insisting on working through... something.

And frankly, no. Romulus blowing up and all the Spock shit can easily be retconned. Did you see the old universe, at all, represented in any of the Star Trek movies or STD? Neither did I. For all I know this was one of the billions of timelines we saw existed when all those different Enterprise Ds appeared, including the one that refused to go back because the Borg were winning. I forget the episode really but if you're familiar you know it. Kelvin is dead, fiscally most importantly, and all future films in it are shelved and unlikely to ever get taken down. I watch Midnight's Edge so that's where I get my info.

I think we're in for Xavier meets Picard. I only hope being pushed around in a wheel chair all the time on set doesn't actually weaken Patrick Stewart. I don't appreciate his take on Picard but his work throughout TNG and it's movies shows what a solid actor he is - without even considering Conspiracy Theory and X-Men. An acting talent like that deserves a measure of consideration for his age and respect. After all this isn't a movie, it's a show and it will film for like four to six months at a time. And Mr. Stewart - is it Sir. yet? - isn't a spring chicken. I sincerely hope he doesn't hurt him self trying for this perverted image of Picard. Either way this is a vanity project and has nothing to do with what the fans want to see, they've made that apparent since about the second announcement about the show. I'm guessing it's DOA.

It also doesn't help that apparently they're ripping off Seth's idea for the Orville concept for their shorts. It was a good idea until Seth did it better and more relatably, now its going to come off as tired. This franchise is presently fucked. The sooner the failure stops the sooner it can be effectively rebooted for a new generation.
 
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They just need to pick up with a new series post-Dominion war and assume anything that has been done after Deep Space 9 occured in another dimension and doesn't matter. Retconn all this shit about Romulus blowing up, and pretend the Kelvin movies don't exist either. Go back to episodic format with a storyline progression that plays out over multiple seasons and is advanced by only minor exposition in each episode and for fucks go back to what made Star Trek so different from every other space adventure shit. It was SCIENCE fiction. not science FANTASY.
 
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Commander X said:
The new series is probably going to have Picard drop kick a bunch of Klingons or some other warrior alien types off of a cliff or something, shouting MAKE IT SO, MOTHERFUCKERS
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Im done for demented mad Picard as long as the Klingons look normal.
 
McGregor said:
As I understand it, the Picard show has to be a set in the Kelvin/whateverthefuckwe'recallingittoday universes due to licencing issues. The assumption I've heard is a 25% variation from TOS/TNG/DS9/Voy/Ent, due to CBS insisting on working through... something.
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CBS is producing the show and isn't under any licensing obligations to do anything since they have the rights to the base IP. In fact, the only way they would run into licensing issues would be by referencing the Abrams movies too much and creating a situation where Paramount wants a cut.
 
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SkeletonBias420 said:
I don't really see this as "fusing" them. Romulus blowing up and Spock disappearing always took place in the main universe. I'm sure there will be serious problems with the Picard show, but I don't think taking a Praxis-redux that already occurred and building on it a bit is really one of them.
edit: The article headline is just nerd-rage clickbait. Nothing has been said anywhere about integrating the Abrams movies beyond the stuff established to have happened in the main universe which no one should be surprised about.
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I think that technically the original timeline (the CBS stuff before Paramount/Bad Robot) is either dead or put on hold. STD can't exist in the original timeline because it would destroy the canon (the Battle of Axanar, Spock never showed his emotions, there was no black human sister to start the Klingon war or to teach Spock how to be a Vulcan, Robert April was the captain of the Enterprise before Pike, Starfleet had no knowledge of the Mirror Universe, there was no hologram Skype calls, no Battlestar-like FTL jump, the Klingons never ate their victims, they never burry their own, etc.). The current CBS projects (STD, Picard, the two animated shows) would only fit in the prime timeline of the JJ verse, not the original timeline as we know it.
Bad Robot is supposed to lose their rights this year if there's no movie in sight, what Star Trek really needs is someone who can set things right, so that everything that was made after ENT is burried in a desert to be forgotten.
Like Disney Wars there is nothing to save, nothing to fix, every recent production has to be put in a box.

Zaryiu said:
So I guess SciFi TV series are dead?
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Watch The Orville.
 
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UnKillFill said:
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Did he really have to write that to justify that even how shit STD is it's 'Star Trek' whether we like it or not? What a desperate tactic.

As an aside, actors don't get to decide what fans like. We get to decide that and the vast majority of Trekkies have universally spoken up about their disdain for Discovery. And all these shitty soy journalists churning out these articles banging on about how not liking Discovery was going against Roddenberry's vision can go neck themselves. I'm fairly sure Roddenberry wouldn't have wanted fans of ST to just blindly accept shit television just because it had Star Trek emblazoned on it.
 
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