New Picard Series to fuse Prime and Kelvin timelines - That's a nice boyhood hero you have there...

[Preferred Penne]

It's been fifteen years since Picard appeared on screen and he would have been a captain for at least forty years. Even though he's pretty much a Starfleet lifer, having him move on from captaining a starship doesn't seem too outrageous.

 

[Doc Cassidy]

I would certainly expect him to be a high rank Admiral by now. He should honestly be retired and maybe working as an ambassador or something. He should have reached admiralty during TNG so for him to still be a Captain would suggest he seriously fucked something up.

Either a full Admiral or maybe even CNO would make the most sense if he's still in Starfleet.

 

[Judge Holden]

I would certainly expect him to be a high rank Admiral by now. He should honestly be retired and maybe working as an ambassador or something. He should have reached admiralty during TNG so for him to still be a Captain would suggest he seriously fucked something up.

Either a full Admiral or maybe even CNO would make the most sense if he's still in Starfleet.

Heh. Fucking Janeway beat him to Admiral

 

[Tookie]

Picard was strongly warned by Kirk against being promoted to Admiral and it was suggested that Starfleet might not trust him at that level due to his assimilation. Not to mention he gave serious thought to quitting Starfleet on a couple of occasions to become an archaeologist or helping to build Hampture. Him being a civilian makes perfect sense.

 

[Zaryiu]

It's been fifteen years since Picard appeared on screen and he would have been a captain for at least forty years. Even though he's pretty much a Starfleet lifer, having him move on from captaining a starship doesn't seem too outrageous.

It' weird because the old continuity has him retiring only in 2402 (sure it's related to STO but that has been the closest thing to Star Trek there is without being the Orville) so this was unexpected

 

[GentlemanFaggot]

Picard becoming an Admiral would be weird, since anyone in Star Trek who become an Admiral for an extended period of time is or becomes evil and/or incompetent.

Coincidentally, Janeway became Admiral...

 

[Judge Holden]

Picard becoming an Admiral would be weird, since anyone in Star Trek who become an Admiral for an extended period of time is or becomes evil and/or incompetent.

Coincidentally, Janeway became Admiral...

Nah Janeway doesnt follow that trend...

She was already evil and incompetent

 

[Preferred Penne]

Whatever gets Janeway the fuck out of the captain's chair is fine by me.

 

[GrungyLawnChlorinate]

Watch The Orville.

Season 1 was pretty good, yet somehow season 2 is just dead bland. The new recurring characters are awful, such poor choices. The camera work is cloistered, low budget sitcom stuff. 95% of the shots are 'over the shoulder' conversation shot, switch to other over the shoulder shot, then back and forth in that manner. Are their sets so small that they cannot use expansive shots, or even moderately wide shots?

I swear it didn't seem nearly this bad in season 1.

 

[UnKillFill]

People are pissed off about the wrong thing here. Picard had retired from Starfleet in the "potential future" put forth in the series finale of TNG "All Good Things" (which took place 25 years in the future of that episode... Ironically, that episode first aired about 25 years ago.) If Picard is doing *anything* in space, that is automatically more interesting than what Picard was supposedly going to be doing in TNG itself- working in a vineyard.

No, the *really* shitty part that people should be pissed about is that they somehow failed to fire Alex Kurtzman, despite his MANY failures with Trek already. He actually makes Berman and Braga seem competent...

 

[Miller]

The camera work is cloistered, low budget sitcom stuff. 95% of the shots are 'over the shoulder' conversation shot, switch to other over the shoulder shot, then back and forth in that manner. Are their sets so small that they cannot use expansive shots, or even moderately wide shots?

That's how Star Trek was shot. There was no dutch angle, quick zooms or dark sets.

 

[GrungyLawnChlorinate]

That's how Star Trek was shot. There was no dutch angle, quick zooms or dark sets.

That is an interesting video, nice analysis. That final analysis of that board room scene is particularly damning. Maybe that scene could have been saved if the casting and lighting weren't so poor. Watching those Discovery clips never gets less painful, the show has no redeeming features.

This is an example of what I mean by 'over the shoulder' shots:

Here they show Bortus conversing, then they will switch to the view from behind Seth, as the conversation dictates. They will switch back and forth like that over and over again in that exact same monotonous fashion for most conversations. It drives me mad, such laziness and hackery. It's not the use of those shots that bothers, its the use of those shots almost exclusively for conversation.

Maybe it's just me, but it gets on my nerves whenever I see shows using that technique.

Compare to this clip from DS9:

 

[UnKillFill]

I was thinking about Trek spinoffs series I'd actually like to see, and that quickly turned into Trek spinoffs that I think the current show-runners would fuck up the most, when I realized that I would really like to see what Quark is up to these days...

There's no way in hell I trust these people to do the Ferengi right... On the plus side though, Armin Shimerman actually seems like he respects the Ferengi enough to not just let them become a joke again, or worse... A 2d stand in for Trump supporters a la the STD Klingons (even though he does seem to be a bit of a social justard himself.)

 

[AnOminous]

There's no way in hell I trust these people to do the Ferengi right... On the plus side though, Armin Shimerman actually seems like he respects the Ferengi enough to not just let them become a joke again, or worse... A 2d stand in for Trump supporters a la the STD Klingons (even though he does seem to be a bit of a social justard himself.)

Just make them the greedy, gouging Space Jews they are.

 

[UnKillFill]

Just make them the greedy, gouging Space Jews they are.

I see the fun in that. That is indeed what they originally were, but they got more than a decade of development after that. (for better and worse) almost entirely thanks to Shimerman. (Who is "ironically" a jew)

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

The first TNG episode with the ferengi was great. They didn't customarily have video on when they talked, so when picard wanted a video conference they were standing way too close to the camera and stuff. It was pretty funny.

 

[drtoboggan]

The show needs Ronald D Moore and Ira Steven Behr.

 

[Terrorist]

anybody whose boyhood hero was captain picard was born wearing a bowtie and transitions lenses

 

[Tookie]

I think that technically the original timeline (the CBS stuff before Paramount/Bad Robot) is either dead or put on hold. STD can't exist in the original timeline because it would destroy the canon (the Battle of Axanar, Spock never showed his emotions, there was no black human sister to start the Klingon war or to teach Spock how to be a Vulcan, Robert April was the captain of the Enterprise before Pike, Starfleet had no knowledge of the Mirror Universe, there was no hologram Skype calls, no Battlestar-like FTL jump, the Klingons never ate their victims, they never burry their own, etc.).

This is getting into nitpicky territory and is a lot of the same arguments that have been getting repeated ad nauseam since the 1970's. They already name-dropped April, Axanar was never stated on-screen to involve the Klingons or be anything other a "battle," the mirror universe stuff is supposed to be classified, Spock never had a secret retarded half-brother until ST:V either, and Spock did show emotions on quite a few TOS episodes that later went down the memory hole. The "original timeline" is already FUBAR since we've blown past a lot of important dates IRL already and Enterprise implied the timeline was scrambled by First Contact in any case. @UnKillFill is right: be upset because the writing will most likely suck not because Picard is retired or a show filmed in 2019 looks different from a 1960's CBS backlot.

Just make them the greedy, gouging Space Jews they are.

 

[Dropped Burner]

The Captain may be central focus, but he's not the primary focus. The ship and its crew is.

Orson Scott Card called Star Trek: TOS "Wagon Train in space" and he wasn't wrong. But that's the selling point of the show. Our group of plucky heroes explore new horizons, seek out worlds never seen before, and deliver corny dialogue telling us what lesson they learned by punching green guys. It's the most goddamn American TV franchise out there!

As bad as Voyager was, the writers seemed to understand the basic premise. Janeway was a cunt but Dr. McHologram and Seven of Titties stole the show. I can't speak to Enterprise. I still pretend the entire show was a long episode of Quantum Leap.