Plagued Nice Guys

Sorry, I should have been more specific and said " I don't think anyone can constantly be intimately/romantically rejected and be totally unaffected emotionally".

But like you said, I have no doubt that most of the successful long-term PUA probably have stronger tendencys toward asocial behaviors and hence are more successful overall.

It's not about being completely unaffected, it's about suffering, coming to terms with your loss, and moving on the best you can.
 
I honestly don't think any 'normal' person can constantly get rejected and be unaffected.

Most of the PUA arent exactly the most well-adjusted people...

Yea true, after fuck loads of rejections, from my experience (powerlevel alert, there are two choices...)

1- Try and battle through it and find a way
2- Make peace with being single and put your mind of it
 
Sorry, I should have been more specific and said " I don't think anyone can constantly be intimately/romantically rejected and be totally unaffected emotionally".
It's not about being completely unaffected, it's about suffering, coming to terms with your loss, and moving on the best you can.
1- Try and battle through it and find a way
2- Make peace with being single and put your mind of it

I think you're all vastly overestimating the extent to which PUAs are affected by rejection.

A PUA being rejected by a woman they approach is not a comparable experience to a typical serially monogamous guy being rejected by a woman they attempt to pursue romantically. Their objectives are different, their motivations are different, their experience with such things is different.

A serial monogamist will approach some coworker he finds attractive and has gotten to know for a little while, and he'll feel somewhat upset about rejection because he will have become attracted to the specific person he approaches and will have daydreamed about possible romantic experiences with that specific person. A PUA's only criteria is "is that girl sexually attractive to me?," they view their targets as marks instead of unique people with individual personalities, their intent is to manipulate interactions in order to get the mark to sleep with them, and they have no intention of any longer term relationship than a fuck and chuck. If they fail with one woman, any other that looks good enough will do just as well.

PUAs are sleazy and maladjusted but they aren't too stupid to be aware that everyone has different sexual preferences. They have to be aware of this, simply by virtue of actively engaging with such things on a regular basis. Nobody will be physically attractive to everyone, not everyone will be in to casual sex, not everyone is available for sexual engagements, etc. There are all sorts of (actually legitimate) rationalizations they can come up with for why women wouldn't want to have sex with them, that aren't their fault. It doesn't have to be taken personally.

For a PUA, being rejected by a potential sexual partner is psychologically closer to how a salesperson feels when a client declines an offer than how a serial monogamist feels when a potential romantic partner turns them down.
 
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Here's another example of a Niceguy blowing his chances by sending a text wall of insecurity to a potential date.
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Wish the guy would find something better to do in his life. Maybe go to the gym. Think about his next job or further education. Book a holiday (new country to visit). Rather than beating himself up over something he cant get. Idk why I care too much, makes me sad when people define themselves over how they do or dont do with women
 
When you're argument is "we can't get laid because women know our tricks now and want us to be like...genuine" you really need to reevaluate your point.

Was never going to last to be honest. Theres a reason why most PUA's cant get into a long term relationship

To have one night stands, you just need to be attractive, But have a long term relationship that is serious, you need to respect the S/O and be willing to make sacrifices. Which PUA's believe they shouldnt have to make
 
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"PUA Training has gone from teaching guys how to get a girlfriend..." It never did that. From the start, it was about getting a harem ("stable") of hot women. The gurus taught that any man could get hot women, especially with recent cultural/societal changes. That turned out to be a lie.

The PUAHate forums formed because of all their disillusioned students. Hell, there was one guy on the PUAHate forums that dumped his girlfriend for PUA and came to regret it. Elliot Rodger was there, of course, a man with mental problems who was probably pushed over the edge by PUA.

Then there was Efficient Pickup, whose two teachers and a student were convicted of rape. Turns out PUA is most successful with drunk women who can't consent.

Other groups more similar to Roosh basically turned into sex tourists. They're banging cheap whores without paying or not realizing they're paying. Or there are legions of women desperate for a green card.
 
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