Plagued Nice Guys

Nice guys/incels act like not having sex is a life-threatening condition. First off, yes, it's great, but there are times when it's more trouble than it's worth for a person. Secondly, are they aware that are whole groups of people who go their whole lives without having sex, by their own choice? People in some religious orders, people who are legit asexual for example.


Exactly! They need to realise that you can go without having sex/having a girlfriend and still be happy! Dating/sex should be a bonus to supplement a good life, not a need. And there are men who do go without sex (maybe not strictly their own choice) but dont act like whiny entitled bitches about it. Its human nature to obsess over what you dont/cant have or get rather than appreciating the good things that you have in your life
 
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To any and all nice guys lurking this thread

getting laid won't make your life better, and honestly being in a relationship is work. Enjoy the time your single and just enjoy life, if you can do this you'll find someone you connect to. Just be yourself, because just getting a date is the easy part, keeping it going if you are lying to your partner is the worst thing you could do to yourself and them
 
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"Im not a virgin you fucking ching chong"
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"Typical game playing worthless fucking slut"
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"can i get sum pics of u 2 brighten up my day"
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"usually I'm very charming and easily likeable"
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Exactly! They need to realise that you can go without having sex/having a girlfriend and still be happy! Dating/sex should be a bonus to supplement a good life, not a need. And there are men who do go without sex (maybe not strictly their own choice) but dont act like whiny entitled bitches about it. Its human nature to obsess over what you dont/cant have or get rather than appreciating the good things that you have in your life

I know this sounds like some corny bullshit, but it's true:

You can't truly love another person until you love yourself.

If you don't, it's more trying to fill a void with another person than addressing your own issues, and if there's one constant with Nice Guys, it's that they're deeply insecure.
 
I know this sounds like some corny bullshit, but it's true:

You can't truly love another person until you love yourself.

If you don't, it's more trying to fill a void with another person than addressing your own issues, and if there's one constant with Nice Guys, it's that they're deeply insecure.

Desperation is one of the biggest turnoffs known to humanity. The only people you're going to attract by constantly seeking validation in others are those who either are mentally fucked up themselves, or people who want to take advantage of you. A Nice Guy will never stop being a Nice Guy until they stop being fixated on getting pussy in a vain attempt to pretend all their personal problems don't exist. That attitude follows someone around like a rancid stench.
 
What does that mean though? Not being self-loathing?

It means that you have to be honestly thrilled about who you are as a person and what you have to offer someone else. Nice guys come out the gate with all of their flaws laid bare and expect a woman to look past them. In order to look past flaws there has to be something of value that kind of lessens the sting of all the flaws. A lot of nice guys lash out at women who reject them. They’re basically lashing out at themselves for every actual reason they’re not attractive.

Fuck, nice guys, just get a really high paying job and that’s one thing that you can offer: money. It doesn’t erase your flaws but it surely helps someone else cope with them.
 
It means that you have to be honestly thrilled about who you are as a person and what you have to offer someone else. Nice guys come out the gate with all of their flaws laid bare and expect a woman to look past them. In order to look past flaws there has to be something of value that kind of lessens the sting of all the flaws. A lot of nice guys lash out at women who reject them. They’re basically lashing out at themselves for every actual reason they’re not attractive.

Fuck, nice guys, just get a really high paying job and that’s one thing that you can offer: money. It doesn’t erase your flaws but it surely helps someone else cope with them.

While you are right, IMO someone with you for only your money is a sad relationship, unless you only want them for sex.
 
While you are right, IMO someone with you for only your money is a sad relationship, unless you only want them for sex.
In which case why be cagey about it? Just flat out hire a hooker. Some will do long-term arrangements if the price is right and if the guy understands they're not really together.
 
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In which case why be cagey about it? Just flat out hire a hooker. Some will do long-term arrangements if the price is right and if the guy understands they're not really together.

Most men think its degrading to pay for a hooker instead of sucessfully seducing someone.

Getting a hooker doesnt really take the sad out of the equation.
 
In which case why be cagey about it? Just flat out hire a hooker. Some will do long-term arrangements if the price is right and if the guy understands they're not really together.

My guess: it'd be like admitting defeat for them, as well as an admission of problems being more on their end than ours. If they have to resort to paying for sex, you might as well just flat-out label them idiots for getting worked up about doing things the 'normal' way.
 
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Was browsing the /r/NiceGuys subreddit for new content and came across this really insightful comment:
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Again, there's nothing wrong with being nice, but if it's your only good quality than you're in trouble.

And usually them talking about how nice they are is like talking about their IQ scores. Dollars to doughnuts they aren't as nice as they're claiming to be.
 
Every time I read this thread I just keep thinking

"You're so nice. You're not good, you're not bad, you're just nice."

And good lord does that one line embody a good chunk of the targets in this thread.
 
What does that mean though? Not being self-loathing?

It means knowing yourself, knowing your flaws, trying to become better and being a person you like, too. Like imagine a 30 year old virgin nerd that spends his free time playing vidya and sperging about comics online, but is actually enjoying his life and working to enjoy it even more, those particular points, enjoying life and the desire of being a better person influence a lot in the way we present ourselves. Even though that guy is a huge nerd, he is probably going to present himself as an easygoing, independant, happy person and will have a better chance getting a partner than a bitter, clingy person.

This is what separates Nice guys and incels from functional human beings and can only be achieved by coming to terms with yourself, knowing yourself and realizing that, while you might get a partner in the future, you are alone for now and you still deserve love and happiness, if you are unhappy, find a way to make things better, you are worth the hard work!

Besides, if you don't know how to keep your own emotional and physical needs by yourself, you are probably going to give it all to the first person that doesn't avoid you like the plague (hence why Nice Guys are so intense and go so fast) and that puts you at risk of getting in unhealthy relationships.
 
Hell, even if you do hate yourself because you have depression or something, there are still better ways to present it to potential partners than Nice Guys do it.

There's a lot to be said for being upfront about the whole thing. Generally, as long as you have a handle on it and show that you're working to be happy and improve yourself, and that you don't expect their love to magically fix your problems, people will at least give you a shot. Someone who loves you won't expect you to be happy or at your best 100% of the time, but they do expect you to be relatively independent and capable of taking care of yourself.

Nice Guys take self-loathing in the wrong way. They present themselves in an unattractive, entitled manner and then lash out when the girl is inevitably turned off. They don't just have deep insecurities, they refuse to acknowledge that their insecurities lead to toxic demonstrations of unchecked emotions. Nothing will make a girl run for the hills faster than showing you're emotionally unstable and play the blame game because it makes the guys look like they could become violent without warning or provocation. :powerlevel: I know a guy who pulls the Nice Guy schtick, but actually has unchecked violent tendencies due to his refusal to control himself and take responsibility for his actions. Not saying he'll shoot up a school, but also wouldn't be surprised if he did. :powerlevel:

Essentially, Nice Guys are trying to be abusers without having any of the charisma and emotional competency to get a proper honeymoon phase going, then blame it on women for not wanting to touch that mess with a 10 foot pole.
 
No, not another astericks roleplay.

You need to find your self a woman who will do an Obelix Role play.

This thread was a fucking ride. And I still can't decide what my favorite was. Perhaps the guy who just called some girl a pompous bitch. Because I call my best friend that.

Which leads me to tossing a new theory on the pile. These people see these things work. The name calling, the role-playing, all of it. And they just think its all binary. It worked for that guy one time, it has to work all times.

My favorite group are the people who are in a friendship and then piss it away. Because they've maybe seen someone get into someone's pants that way. And they figure yet again. It's worked that once for that one guy, it has to work for me.

Why? I mean we all know the answer of course.

Because God likes all to have a good laugh. Duh.
 
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