Plagued Nice Guys

It means knowing yourself, knowing your flaws, trying to become better and being a person you like, too. Like imagine a 30 year old virgin nerd that spends his free time playing vidya and sperging about comics online, but is actually enjoying his life and working to enjoy it even more, those particular points, enjoying life and the desire of being a better person influence a lot in the way we present ourselves. Even though that guy is a huge nerd, he is probably going to present himself as an easygoing, independant, happy person and will have a better chance getting a partner than a bitter, clingy person.

This is what separates Nice guys and incels from functional human beings and can only be achieved by coming to terms with yourself, knowing yourself and realizing that, while you might get a partner in the future, you are alone for now and you still deserve love and happiness, if you are unhappy, find a way to make things better, you are worth the hard work!

Besides, if you don't know how to keep your own emotional and physical needs by yourself, you are probably going to give it all to the first person that doesn't avoid you like the plague (hence why Nice Guys are so intense and go so fast) and that puts you at risk of getting in unhealthy relationships.


I do think society plays a part in seeing virgin males as a bad thing, but boy do some men need to take responsibility for their feelings. Theres nothing wrong with being a 30 year old virgin anyway, some people think that being a virgin or not getting intimate is the worst thing ever. I disagree with the deserve love (in a romantic sense), as no one is entitled to female affection and it has to be earned. And even for happiness, men that dont do anything to improve their lives or take responsibility for their actions dont deserve happiness. Sounds harsh, but ill stand by it
 
. I disagree with the deserve love (in a romantic sense), as no one is entitled to female affection

I meant self love, love is more than "omg i wuv u <3", its about caring about someone, making sure they are doing well. So, excercise, eating well, showering and finding a healthy time to indulge in your hobbies is self-love. That's what I meant
 
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I disagree with the deserve love (in a romantic sense), as no one is entitled to female affection and it has to be earned.
I'll take that a step further and say no one is entitled to any kind of love or affection, romantic or otherwise. Except children from their parents really. But if you can't even make a friend because people find your remarks about raping staceys repugnant, that's still on you.
 
"Validification" might be my new favorite word. Those replies were savage as fuck too. Anyone that wants to guilt and shame people for being trapped in an abusive relationship is probably the same kind of person that traps people in abusive relationships.
 
This thread is my go-to for a pick-me-up. A tiny offering:
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That frog is totally the guy who if he did manage to start dating someone he'd be coming out with constant snide digs like "if you lost a bit of weight you'd be stunning" and will talk to her about the girls on the TV he likes when they watch things together.
 
guy is an idiot, but once again poor strong independent wymen, acting clueless and playing the victim.
''I totally didnt see that he was a controlling, violent psycho, I swear!!!''

nah, you just chose to ignore the red flags. A guy doesnt start acting abusive overnight.
women, just like niggers, dont know the concept of responsibility. Always blaming everything on others, for their shitty decisions.
It's never ever their fault. nope.
 
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Personally, I feel there's a difference between "deserving" love and being "entitled" to it.

If you're willing to put the time in to make yourself a better person and show others how awesome a person you are, your efforts will eventually yield fruit. If you think that you're entitled to a girlfriend/boyfriend just because, then you're going to have a hard time finding someone who will give you the time of day.

guy is an idiot, but once again poor strong independent wymen, acting clueless and playing the victim.
''I totally didnt see that he was a controlling, violent psycho, I swear!!!''

nah, you just chose to ignore the red flags. A guy doesnt start acting abusive overnight.
women, just like niggers, dont know the concept of responsibility. Always blaming everything on others, for their shitty decisions.
It's never ever their fault. nope.

Believe it or not, people are people and can easily miss these red flags. And even if they realize they're in an abusive relationship, there are lots of factors that can come into play that prevents them from leaving.

Maybe the victim doesn't have immediate friends or family they can find shelter with, maybe they feel like they deserve what they got and they just give in, maybe they'll rationalize their abuse as them loving them and knowing what's best, or like the replies stated, they're worried they'll get killed by their abuser.
 
guy is an idiot, but once again poor strong independent wymen, acting clueless and playing the victim.
''I totally didnt see that he was a controlling, violent psycho, I swear!!!''

nah, you just chose to ignore the red flags. A guy doesnt start acting abusive overnight.
women, just like niggers, dont know the concept of responsibility. Always blaming everything on others, for their shitty decisions.
It's never ever their fault. nope.

'acting clueless and playing the victim'

Are you retarded or just pretending to be, because ho boy. It's probably from your lack of female contact that you don't know how women (and men) get into abusive relationships; the abuser doesn't show their true intentions until they've manipulated their victim. They make their victim cut all ties with family and friends. Abusers pick people who appear weak.

But yeah keep living in your little nice guy bubble where women are dumb for falling for manipulative bastards :story:
 
I haven't read every single page of this thread, but I tried searching for r/legaladvice and similar to see if it had popped up here.

Nice guy gets slapped down with "a fucking cease and desist letter" after stalking and harassing his crush. Poceeds to be humiliated every which way after whining about it on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6ebbq9/had_a_falling_out_with_the_girl_i_love_and_got

The (deleted) x-post from r/relationships: https://www.ceddit.com/r/relationsh..._girl_19f_i_21m_am_in_love_with_thinks_i_am_a

The heartwarming follow-up that will restore some of your faith in humanity. Proof that there is still hope for some of these jokers: https://www.ceddit.com/r/legaladvic...te_had_a_falling_out_with_the_girl_i_love_and

It's a wild ride. I was winded after my first read-through.
 
when they are in, it's already late, I know. That's why it's important to pick those signals immediately, even if it's not always possible if the person is not in his best mental shape.
that's why weak persons should not look for a relationship, until they fixed themselves and cant fall prey of those kind of people.
@Venus I think we found the Vegeta guy you were talking about.
 
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