Plagued Nice Guys

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"I'm a nice, good guy. I hope your boyfriend fucking beats you up because you didn't suck my cock."

What is it with Nice Guys and advocating/excusing domestic violence against women? Seriously, it's a full-on trend at this point:

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The posts on here are bringing out a common theme with Nice Guys. They're all anti-social, and become angered when their anti-social personalities turn off people they want to date.

If you're on the Kiwi boards there's a good chance you're a little anti-social. Nice guys behave in anti-social ways most of the time, even if they have friends. Think about the extreme end of social behavior: popularity, team accomplishments like sports, pop culture engagement, adhering to current fashion and style. The strawman they use, "Chad," is described as someone who would be close to the extreme end of social behavior. Nice Guys determine that they have value by being as far from a "Chad" as they can get, which is just an excuse for being extremely anti-social. By placing negative stereotypes on Chads they villainize the behaviors of a socially adjusted person, and try to paint a picture of someone who only appears attractive on the surface. That's how they attempt to put value in their unattractive appearance: ugly men are the only ones women can/should trust.

Whenever a nice guy attempts to speak with a woman who is socially well adjusted, it's like he's walking into a war with a pellet gun and a bike helmet on. He's not equipped for the task at hand and he's obviously going to fail miserably. Women look for all sorts of social touchpoints and commonalities that nice guys missed out on. There is a way that regular people talk to each other that reassures one another. When a nice guy comes out with some forced preplanned dialogue, he seems like a cartoon character or crazy person, not only to the girl he's trying to date but literally everyone. The woman has to shut him down immediately because interacting with someone so socially unequipped will have negative repercussions on her social standing. When nice guys are rejected, they're confronted with their massive social shortcomings and they react intensely. They attempt to shame or insult the woman they targeted, so the social failure is on somebody else.

Dating is a social activity. Relationships are social agreements. You can't be completely anti-social and have either of these.
 
The posts on here are bringing out a common theme with Nice Guys. They're all anti-social, and become angered when their anti-social personalities turn off people they want to date.

If you're on the Kiwi boards there's a good chance you're a little anti-social. Nice guys behave in anti-social ways most of the time, even if they have friends. Think about the extreme end of social behavior: popularity, team accomplishments like sports, pop culture engagement, adhering to current fashion and style. The strawman they use, "Chad," is described as someone who would be close to the extreme end of social behavior. Nice Guys determine that they have value by being as far from a "Chad" as they can get, which is just an excuse for being extremely anti-social. By placing negative stereotypes on Chads they villainize the behaviors of a socially adjusted person, and try to paint a picture of someone who only appears attractive on the surface. That's how they attempt to put value in their unattractive appearance: ugly men are the only ones women can/should trust.

Whenever a nice guy attempts to speak with a woman who is socially well adjusted, it's like he's walking into a war with a pellet gun and a bike helmet on. He's not equipped for the task at hand and he's obviously going to fail miserably. Women look for all sorts of social touchpoints and commonalities that nice guys missed out on. There is a way that regular people talk to each other that reassures one another. When a nice guy comes out with some forced preplanned dialogue, he seems like a cartoon character or crazy person, not only to the girl he's trying to date but literally everyone. The woman has to shut him down immediately because interacting with someone so socially unequipped will have negative repercussions on her social standing. When nice guys are rejected, they're confronted with their massive social shortcomings and they react intensely. They attempt to shame or insult the woman they targeted, so the social failure is on somebody else.

Dating is a social activity. Relationships are social agreements. You can't be completely anti-social and have either of these.

The fact that they treat interacting with a woman like a war is also a huge problem. They're very trigger happy and prepare to jump on any chance to shame or guilt trip people before they even have a chance to know them.

For example, all those texts where the nice guys assume that the girl not responding to them immediately means that they're not interested or are a whore sucking off Chad. Not realizing that said girl is probably busy with something and can't respond right away. So they proceed to insult them like five minutes after they greet them.

Basically, these guys need to learn to chill the fuck out and trust people. It's normal to feel nervous talking to someone you're attracted to, it's normal to have some apprehensions. But there's no reason to assume the other person will actively try to hurt you. And if they are, they're the ones with the problem.
 
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I've mentioned before that most of us have our first encounters with the opposite sex through our social groups. I'd have to say congrats to that guy for cutting down his social circle as much as he can. She sounded like a nice girl who no doubt has other friends but nah, target the girl already in a relationship.

If an insult could be called the most virgin insult possible it would be fuckboy.

Edit: There was enough about him in the first place that she liked to invite him to lunch. At least she learnt quick enough how much of an immature little shit he is.

LOL 'fuckboy'. You're getting sex, you're getting sex, nah nah nah nah nah. I hope to God he looks back on that one with a certain amount of shame and embarrassment.
 
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I've mentioned before that most of us have our first encounters with the opposite sex through our social groups. I'd have to say congrats to that guy for cutting down his social circle as much as he can. She sounded like a nice girl who no doubt has other friends but nah, target the girl already in a relationship.

If an insult could be called the most virgin insult possible it would be fuckboy.

Edit: There was enough about him in the first place that she liked to invite him to lunch. At least she learnt quick enough how much of an immature little shit he is.

LOL 'fuckboy'. You're getting sex, you're getting sex, nah nah nah nah nah. I hope to God he looks back on that one with a certain amount of shame and embarrassment.
And the sad thing is, even being just friends can be meaningful and fulfilling in ways that a romantic relationship doesn’t.

But nooo, with these sad sacks, it’s either sex or get lost, bitch.
 
If you're on the Kiwi boards there's a good chance you're a little anti-social. Nice guys behave in anti-social ways most of the time, even if they have friends. Think about the extreme end of social behavior: popularity, team accomplishments like sports, pop culture engagement, adhering to current fashion and style. The strawman they use, "Chad,

I'm really bummed this didn't end up in some Jeff Goldblumesque word association thing
 
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You can’t watch any YouTube video about love and attraction without finding niceguys circle jerking .

The video was about how women and men fall differently in love and that made the niceguys reeee hard.
 
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The fact that they treat interacting with a woman like a war is also a huge problem. They're very trigger happy and prepare to jump on any chance to shame or guilt trip people before they even have a chance to know them.

For example, all those texts where the nice guys assume that the girl not responding to them immediately means that they're not interested or are a whore sucking off Chad. Not realizing that said girl is probably busy with something and can't respond right away. So they proceed to insult them like five minutes after they greet them.

Basically, these guys need to learn to chill the fuck out and trust people. It's normal to feel nervous talking to someone you're attracted to, it's normal to have some apprehensions. But there's no reason to assume the other person will actively try to hurt you. And if they are, they're the ones with the problem.


They need to speak to women with the aim of just getting to know them. They need to take their mind of dating and sex and learn to enjoy interacting with women. And life is competition, being nice doesnt cut it. You need other skills/attraction to be able to get dates/relationships ect
 
Here is some more cringe from a post about alternative responses to "I love you" in the same singles group as before.

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They exchange photos of their dogs, and in one of the images a tattoo is visible above the woman's cleavage.

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For a moment, I noticed a minor trend on /r/niceguys consisting of a couple (or maybe more?) of screenshots in which the nice guy would politely (?) ask for permission to send a dick pic, and retreat gracefully when rejected.


I thought it was pretty funny but sadly more material is lacking. Any thoughts?
 
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Yes true, it isn't exactly relevant (I don't know why I called them the 'nice guys', it's only the usual subject in these cases) in that they're not Nice Guys but they are actually being nice about something that people aren't usually that nice about. It's a funny sideshow and I thought it might cause interesting posts about this kind of borderline where someone is making a normally creepy/excessive approach to a stranger in an unusually civil way. It got removed on reddit because of this same lack of actual relevance in spite of the joking connection there, but I thought I'd take a chance and see if any good content came out.
 
Yes true, it isn't exactly relevant (I don't know why I called them the 'nice guys', it's only the usual subject in these cases) in that they're not Nice Guys but they are actually being nice about something that people aren't usually that nice about.

I always ask for informed consent before sending a dickpic and if declined I politely thank the intended recipient for their time anyhow. Good manners are just as much a sign of good breeding as an aesthetic penis.
 
The posts on here are bringing out a common theme with Nice Guys. They're all anti-social, and become angered when their anti-social personalities turn off people they want to date.

If you're on the Kiwi boards there's a good chance you're a little anti-social. Nice guys behave in anti-social ways most of the time, even if they have friends. Think about the extreme end of social behavior: popularity, team accomplishments like sports, pop culture engagement, adhering to current fashion and style. The strawman they use, "Chad," is described as someone who would be close to the extreme end of social behavior. Nice Guys determine that they have value by being as far from a "Chad" as they can get, which is just an excuse for being extremely anti-social. By placing negative stereotypes on Chads they villainize the behaviors of a socially adjusted person, and try to paint a picture of someone who only appears attractive on the surface. That's how they attempt to put value in their unattractive appearance: ugly men are the only ones women can/should trust.

Whenever a nice guy attempts to speak with a woman who is socially well adjusted, it's like he's walking into a war with a pellet gun and a bike helmet on. He's not equipped for the task at hand and he's obviously going to fail miserably. Women look for all sorts of social touchpoints and commonalities that nice guys missed out on. There is a way that regular people talk to each other that reassures one another. When a nice guy comes out with some forced preplanned dialogue, he seems like a cartoon character or crazy person, not only to the girl he's trying to date but literally everyone. The woman has to shut him down immediately because interacting with someone so socially unequipped will have negative repercussions on her social standing. When nice guys are rejected, they're confronted with their massive social shortcomings and they react intensely. They attempt to shame or insult the woman they targeted, so the social failure is on somebody else.

Dating is a social activity. Relationships are social agreements. You can't be completely anti-social and have either of these.
I absolutely agree with you but that is the most autistic analysis of human dating behavior I've ever read
 
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