🐱 Nick Fuentes trying to bicker with Ben Shapiro riles up the internet

Nick Fuentes Trying to Bicker with Ben Shapiro Riles Up the Internet

archived 22 Dec 2019 12:30:09 UTC

archive.is

As President Donald Trump makes his way to southern Florida to spend his holidays at Mar-a-Lago, he will stop to give a speech where conservative ideologies are currently clashing.
Trump will speak at Turning Point USA’s (TPUSA) Student Action Summit, where over 2,000 conservative student activists have gathered to hear from Trumpworld personalities and grifters alike.


Followers of Nicholas Fuentes, a white nationalist and Holocaust denier, who refer to themselves as “groypers,” have also descended into West Palm Beach, concurrent with Charlie Kirk’s summit.
The feud between TPUSA and the “American First Groypers” has been ongoing for months now. Far-right students took aim at Kirk for not having conservative enough principles in their opinion.
The students, groypers following Fuentes, would frequently ask racist and homophobic questions directed at conservatives speakers, like Kirk, who spoke on college campuses across the country.
After the groypers heckled a variety of speakers for months, conservative mouthpiece Ben Shapiro addressed their grievances by giving a speech at Stanford University, where he denounced Fuentes and groypers.


The conflict came to a head this week in Palm Beach. Fuentes was kicked out of the TPUSA conference venue and then supposedly returned to the convention center in disguise just a day after.
Update 7:37pm CT, Dec. 21: Fuentes returned to the venue again on Saturday night. He was cited for trespassing.

On Friday, Fuentes was speaking to a group outside the venue when a bystander pointed out that Shapiro was crossing the street.
Fuentes then crossed the road to try and bicker with Shapiro, who was with his family.

The interaction was posted to Twitter by controversial, self-proclaimed journalist Andy Ngo.
“Neo-nazi holocaust denier Nick Fuentes accosts far-right propagandist Ben Shapiro in video by white nationalist provocateur Andy Ngo. The ultimate far-right grifter human centipede,” Nathan Bernard tweeted.


Many criticized Fuentes for “heckling” Shapiro with his family by his side. While Fuentes supporters accused Shapiro of using his family as a “human meat shield,” as some dubbed it.
“It’s great to see you. Why did you give a 45-minute speech about me at Stanford? And you wouldn’t even look at my direction,” Fuentes yells at Shapiro while crossing the street.

Shapiro doesn’t respond to Fuentes’ remarks.
“That’s our free speech warrior,” Fuentes states.

It was alleged that anyone who spoke to Fuentes was barred from the conference and their event credentials revoked.


When asked about students being tossed from the venue on Friday, a spokesperson from the City of West Palm Beach Police Department told the Daily Dot to “have a great day.”
The spokesperson also declined to answer inquiries regarding TPUSA paying the department for its security services at the event and directed the Daily Dot to contact the U.S. Secret Service.

The Daily Dot has been unable to reach the secret service.
Kirk, TPUSA spokespeople, and TPUSA CCO Benny Johnsondid not respond to multiple of the Daily Dot’s requests for comment.
The Daily Dot has also reached out to Fuentes and Shapiro.
Trump is set to speak to the crowd of conservative activists at 5pm local time on Saturday.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

I see exceptionalism from everyone including the faggot writer. And also everyone who is laughing at them here.

 

[Jewthulhu]

As much as he goes on about optics, his optics are terrible. Whether you mean it or not, you can't cap off a particular edgy statement with "that's just a joke" and expect people to ignore it. He needs to calm down and find better ways of getting his message across rather than trying to start slapfights with neocon talking heads.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

I see exceptionalism from everyone including the faggot writer. And also everyone who is laughing at them here.

Yeah buddy you're the only non-exceptional person here.

 

[ElAbominacion]

I'm not saying its harassment, just that he's wanted to do this for so long and Ben rebuffed him. He also doesn't have the social skills to go "Maybe this isn't a good time to bother this man when he's with his family". If you can't realize that going up to a guy that intensely doesn't like you and doesn't want to talk to you, in public, with his family, is a really terrible idea you're either an asshole or autistic or a giant fucking tool. None of which is good.

I'm not going to be a pussy and say its stalking or harassing. What I am going to say he's either an idiot, an asshole or autistic for doing so because he can't seem to see the social consequences of doing so or simply does not care about them.

TBH the most Ben Shapiro ever deserves in terms of acknowledgement is a 'Yo, Ben, how's Abby?' Because those are gorgeous khazar milkers.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Any exceptional individual that thinks Nick can out debate Shapiro is a fool. And it's not because Shapiro has some great debating skills, its cause Nick is a slow exceptional individual that has a hard time handling his optics. It's why his "joking" racism and anti-semitism gets him in trouble, because he doesn't know when to turn it off and be serious. The Trainwrecks debate should tell you that as soon as an opponent talks about interacial couplings, Nick will get himself blown the fuck out cause he can't help saying he's against interracial relationships and hate that it's being pushed. I get having sexual preferences toward race, but when you start telling other people they should be dating within their race, most people will tell you to fuck off.

I think you are completely wrong and I'll tell you why. Shapiro has much more severe secrets than Fuentes. It's also why the S.S. TPUSA ran into the groyper iceberg and is sinking. Because sensible questions exposed their genuine position to their otherwise supportive base.

Shapiro's double standard on demographics, not caring about changes to US and deeply caring about changes to Israel would make him vastly impopular to the conservative US public.

Of course Shapiro can fire back at the tension points in Fuentes, who plays a wink wink nudge nudge game with topics around jews.

But that means to go on the offensive, Shapiro has to open the topic of jews (or israel, or Liberty attack, or holocaust).

And that means that many people watching would learn about the details of these events, which generally depend on people's ignorance.

That's why, regardless of any of the skills of either, a debate would be hard to win by Shapiro. Because if he attacks, he opens the door to a closet full of skeletons.

And you can't win on the defensive.

It makes sense to just try to steer clear of future icebergs.

Finally, I think you overestimate the amount of people with the exact same political sensibilities as yourself.

 

[frozenrunner]

I don't give a fuck about either of these people. But I just keep hearing about them.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I'm not going to be a pussy and say its stalking or harassing.

I mean, you already did.

But whatever.

As to your larger point, I think just the fact that it is somewhat controversial with people lining up on both sides to such a non-event and even putting it into the news again is beneficial for Fuentes.

The strategy for Shapiro is to weather the storm, use smears without naming fuentes and hope interest dies down. The strategy for Fuentes is to keep it in the news without giving undue ammunition to attack him.

He didn't really get close to Shapiro, he didn't approach aggressively. He didn't continue following him. He just said a sentence or two for the peanut gallery.

I fundamentally don't get people that have the perspective that the first attempt itself at contact would be harassment. Shapiro could have been a man and confronted him and he was just as legitimized to not engage at all. It's only when the attempt has been rebuffed that something can become harassment, which Fuentes didn't.

It honestly also doesn't compare to the event that started this train of events; Shapiro's organisation/group, TPUSA, throwing out Fuentes at an event and barring him from future ones without there having been any type of incident to warrant it.

 

[Secret Asshole]

I mean, you already did.

But whatever.

As to your larger point, I think just the fact that it is somewhat controversial with people lining up on both sides to such a non-event and even putting it into the news again is beneficial for Fuentes.

The strategy for Shapiro is to weather the storm, use smears without naming fuentes and hope interest dies down. The strategy for Fuentes is to keep it in the news without giving undue ammunition to attack him.

He didn't really get close to Shapiro, he didn't approach aggressively. He didn't continue following him. He just said a sentence or two for the peanut gallery.

I fundamentally don't get people that have the perspective that the first attempt itself at contact would be harassment. Shapiro could have been a man and confronted him and he was just as legitimized to not engage at all. It's only when the attempt has been rebuffed that something can become harassment, which Fuentes didn't.

It honestly also doesn't compare to the event that started this train of events; Shapiro's organisation/group, TPUSA, throwing out Fuentes at an event and barring him from future ones without there having been any type of incident to warrant it.

I do agree it is a non event, I just like to shitpost and rile feathers. I am on Kiwifarms, after all. I don't like either of them so just because I'm shitting on Fuente's doesn't mean I favor Shapiro. I just think Feuntes is a larger idiot than Shapiro. The only thing I enjoy are Ben Shapiro's sister's Khazar Milkers.

I don't think its harassment, I just think its a dumb move. Confronting someone that basically hates you, while they have kids, is not smart. It doesn't matter how milquetoast it is. Shapiro is a gigantic faggot who will hide behind that fact. You know he's a gigantic faggot who will do this, but you engage anyway. He's already proven himself to be a pussy by chucking you out of an event without a reason excepting saying Israel intentionally bombed an American ship (which they did). I mean, you have to be pants on head exceptional to go against the word of a US Crew who have no reason to lie. So people thinking I side with Shapiro here on this, I really don't. I know that's really at the heart of this issue. The USS Liberty was a deliberate attack and knowledgeable attack by a US Ally on US personnel. Its not the first time the US has been rat-fucked by so called allies in the ME. That whole region can go fuck itself. I swear, God put oil there to amuse himself.

So in any event, I'm not siding with Shapiro over his pussy handling of Fuentes. Obviously if you can't handle him, you can't handle shit. But I'm not going to say Fuentes was smart here either. I don't agree it was harassment. It was just idiotic to do.

I just don't know what to tell you. You've got a political opponent who's bitchmade, out with his family. Confronting him will do no good. I mean, if he wanted to keep his name in the headlines and go with 'Ben Shapiro is a pussy' narrative for people who like him, I guess he succeeded. But he failed because Shapiro is bitchmade and will use this to show Fuentes 'harassing' him.

Shapiro's necon bullshit is on the decline anyway. Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs are dying breeds.

 

[Fork Cartel]

Both Fuentes and Shapiro are vapid, unoriginal hacks. News at 11. I could honestly be fine never hearing of either of these individuals again.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

The only thing I enjoy are Ben Shapiro's sister's Khazar Milkers.

Same. Even then she’s been trying to hide them recently: https://mobile.twitter.com/classicallyabby

Personally I dislike both but I give the nod to Fuentes because he’s not as obvious about being a shit eating shill like Shapiro. I agree with you though that Shapiro’s neocon ideology is on the way out; even with the Democrats appropriating it in the Obama era, people are done with endless war.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Same. Even then she’s been trying to hide them recently: https://mobile.twitter.com/classicallyabby

Personally I dislike both but I give the nod to Fuentes because he’s not as obvious about being a shit eating shill like Shapiro. I agree with you though that Shapiro’s neocon ideology is on the way out; even with the Democrats appropriating it in the Obama era, people are done with endless war.

You weren't kidding. Hiding it in a different way in each of the three pictures.

Also recommendation AI's make me laugh. They've connected these recommended twitter accounts to hers, when I followed your link.

Also funny how all three descriptions have distortions of truth in them.

 

[MediocreMilt]

The conflict came to a head this week in Palm Beach. Fuentes was kicked out of the TPUSA conference venue and then supposedly returned to the convention center in disguise just a day after.

This was my favorite part. Basically Nick posted some photos and then a close-up video of security looking for him "in disguise". In reality, he probably had an unknown person inside the event sending him stuff and he was outside the whole time.

 

[Ira the Weatherman]

I don't like Shapiro nor do I really know who this kid is, but ambushing a guy on the street when he's clearly busy to DEBATE RIGHT HIER RIGHT NAO and shit talking him when he doesn't seems like a gay ass bitch move to me fam.

 

[verissimus]

DEBATE RIGHT HIER RIGHT NAO

Anyone that displays that kind of behavior is exceptional period. To do that while someone is trying to handle their infant children is flat out despicable. It' would be about as absurd as demanding you debate someone in the bathroom while they're taking a dump or shower.

 

[Ira the Weatherman]

Anyone that displays that kind of behavior is exceptional period. To do that while someone is trying to handle their infant children is flat out despicable. It' would be about as absurd as demanding you debate someone in the bathroom while they're taking a dump or shower.

Agreed. There's a time and a place for autistic political slapfights, even midget pundits like Ben Shapiro have a fucking life.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

First of all Ben Shapiro picked up his kid as soon as he saw Nick Fuentes wasn't following him he was actually standing on the other side of the street doing an interview with Andy no

Twitter / Account Suspended

From breaking news and entertainment to sports and politics, get the full story with all the live commentary.

twitter.com

LA Dom on Twitter

“@LockedPhilia @hymenprotector”

twitter.com

Twitter / Account Suspended

From breaking news and entertainment to sports and politics, get the full story with all the live commentary.

twitter.com

But please continue with your virtue signaling.

Who purposely picks up his child just so you can avoid having a conversation with someone he spent 45 minutes defaming
And who in an article for Townhall magazine advocated for ethnic cleansing.
Who is advocated for Wars with Iran which would cost tens of thousands of American lives
But I should feel bad because he is a coward and uses his children as human Shields

 

[WeWuzFinns]

Mexican boy did nothing wrong. He confronted the Jew, who ignored him and because of this, Mexican boy pursued him a bit further. If the Jew would have said to him to go away and he would have still persisted, Mexican boy would be in the wrong here. Because the Jew didn't say anything Mexican boy had to read the situation.
If every street merchant, mormon and other scum can walk up to anyone, and ask if they have some time, why can't some Mexican boy?

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

First of all Ben Shapiro picked up his kid as soon as he saw Nick Fuentes wasn't following him he was actually standing on the other side of the street doing an interview with Andy no

Twitter / Account Suspended

From breaking news and entertainment to sports and politics, get the full story with all the live commentary.

twitter.com

LA Dom on Twitter

“@LockedPhilia @hymenprotector”

twitter.com

Twitter / Account Suspended

From breaking news and entertainment to sports and politics, get the full story with all the live commentary.

twitter.com

But please continue with your virtue signaling.

Who purposely picks up his child just so you can avoid having a conversation with someone he spent 45 minutes defaming
And who in an article for Townhall magazine advocated for ethnic cleansing.
Who is advocated for Wars with Iran which would cost tens of thousands of American lives
But I should feel bad because he is a coward and uses his children as human Shields

Typical fucking Jews.

 

[Easterling]

First of all Ben Shapiro picked up his kid as soon as he saw Nick Fuentes wasn't following him he was actually standing on the other side of the street doing an interview with Andy no

Twitter / Account Suspended

From breaking news and entertainment to sports and politics, get the full story with all the live commentary.

twitter.com

LA Dom on Twitter

“@LockedPhilia @hymenprotector”

twitter.com

Twitter / Account Suspended

From breaking news and entertainment to sports and politics, get the full story with all the live commentary.

twitter.com

But please continue with your virtue signaling.

Who purposely picks up his child just so you can avoid having a conversation with someone he spent 45 minutes defaming
And who in an article for Townhall magazine advocated for ethnic cleansing.
Who is advocated for Wars with Iran which would cost tens of thousands of American lives
But I should feel bad because he is a coward and uses his children as human Shields

The thing is though, im sure in Shapiro's mind that even acknowleding the guy is in some way legitimizing him. In Shapiro's small statured view of the world, nick represents anddua showa which is something that most of his kindred spend a great deal of time reitterating is a bad thing. Is not debating someone a pussy move, short ansewer yes it is, on the other hand you gotta look at it from thier point of view given controvisal nature of nick and his movement. His agent or CIA nigger handler or whoever the fuck has probably told him to not debate him in case he fucks up, becuase after all, going into college campuses and saying the same old necon bullshit is pretty much his full time job now.

 

[pwnest injun]

Classic Cat Party non-news retard bait thread. Good job all around.