Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

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My local GameStop is doing a midnight release so I guess I'll be picking up my preorder on Thursday.

That said I''m wondering if I need anything else. I kind of want to pick up the Pro 2 controller (my current Pro controller is getting up there in age), a case (the SMO-themed case I got with my first Switch won't fit the Switch 2), and an MicroSD Express Card (the Switch 2 has 256 GBs of internal storage but I'm not sure if I'll have enough space come next year) but I'm not sure any of those are truly necessary.

Oh, and if you've ordered your Switch 2 from Walmart you may be shit out of luck. Word's been going around that Walmart oversold their initial shipment and they're canceling some orders.
Dysnomia said:
Porch pirates here are awful. It's just not worth it with valuable items.
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It's even worse for some items where the employees of the shipping company itself are thieves, I've seen stories of people having packages contain Pokémon cards being "lost" or tampered with during transit.
 
I think of it like a phone, you want a screen protector and a case to make sure your system doesn't meet an unanticipated tragic end. Other than a game (if you got the one without 'Kart) you don't really need anything else. In particular I wouldn't get a MicroSD Express Card that is larger than 256 GB. I anticipate by Xmas that you will be able to get a 1 TB card for what you are paying for a 256 GB card now, so buying anything larger would only be if you don't want to wait and have money that has no other use at the moment.

Archeops said:
Oh, and if you've ordered your Switch 2 from Walmart you may be shit out of luck. Word's been going around that Walmart oversold their initial shipment and they're canceling some orders.
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I have confirmed this with people I know who are management for Walmart. How this could happen, I'm not sure. Their current inventory system is essentially real-time from what I understand. Regardless of what was going on the system should have been able to provide accurate data when orders were placed.
 
Why do some Smash bros fans want the new game to have less characters?
Genuinely one of the worst takes on the game and it isn't a rare opinion to see.
I can see them not getting back all of the characters they don't have the IP of. But with the newcomers The overall amount would be higher than Ultimate's
 
DoubleMint said:
Why do some Smash bros fans want the new game to have less characters?
Genuinely one of the worst takes on the game and it isn't a rare opinion to see.
I can see them not getting back all of the characters they don't have the IP of. But with the newcomers The overall amount would be higher than Ultimate's
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I think it's a couple things. Some of it is rosterfags who get salty over certain characters being in and so want to "cut the fat" and get rid of the characters they don't like so they're not "taking up a slot" and whatever. And some of it is people figuring there's no way they can get every character from Ultimate in the next game, so they might as well shake up the gameplay somehow and focus on a smaller set of characters for this figurative reboot.
 
Prokhor Zakharov said:
I think of it like a phone, you want a screen protector and a case to make sure your system doesn't meet an unanticipated tragic end.
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The funny thing is that the Switch 2 comes preinstalled with the same thin screen protector that the Switch OLED model does (although they still insist on getting a proper screen protector for it).

As far as cases are concerned I was thinking less along the lines of a phone case (I’ve never used a protective case for my Switch since I usually play in docked mode) and more along the lines of a travel case. I had my eye on getting the the official all-in-one case by Nintendo (which carries the system, the dock, the Joy-Cons, the comfort/charging grip, a Pro/Pro 2 controller, the necessary cords, and up to six Game Cards) but it’s $84.99. I’ll either get a smaller one or an off-brand one for a cheaper price.
Prokhor Zakharov said:
Other than a game (if you got the one without 'Kart) you don't really need anything else.
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I’m getting the bundle on Thursday and I have Donkey Kong Bananza preordered, the only reason why I’m considering getting the Pro 2 controller is due to the better power management (it apparently has the same battery life as the original Switch Pro controller but charges in half the time) and better buttons. My current Switch Pro controller was purchased back in 2018 and has miraculously remained unaffected by shit like stick drift and power issues but I feel like I’m risking some potential issues later down the line.
Prokhor Zakharov said:
In particular I wouldn't get a MicroSD Express Card that is larger than 256 GB. I anticipate by Xmas that you will be able to get a 1 TB card for what you are paying for a 256 GB card now, so buying anything larger would only be if you don't want to wait and have money that has no other use at the moment.
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I’d be getting a 256 GB card regardless, I have 4.6 GBs of my Switch 1’s 32 GBs of internal storage free and 206 GBs of my 400 GB MicroSD Card free. The only time I considered getting a higher amount of storage was when I bought my Steam Deck.
Prokhor Zakharov said:
I have confirmed this with people I know who are management for Walmart. How this could happen, I'm not sure. Their current inventory system is essentially real-time from what I understand. Regardless of what was going on the system should have been able to provide accurate data when orders were placed.
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I did some more research and it’s not just Walmart canceling orders: GameStop, Target, and Best Buy are also canceling orders too.

But there is some good news: apparently some of the cancellations are happening due to those orders violating various Switch 2-specific preorder policies that said vendors have in place. I know that GameStop has a one-per-household policy that they’re more than likely enforcing with their account system.
 
DoubleMint said:
Why do some Smash bros fans want the new game to have less characters?
Genuinely one of the worst takes on the game and it isn't a rare opinion to see.
I can see them not getting back all of the characters they don't have the IP of. But with the newcomers The overall amount would be higher than Ultimate's
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The only good argument for less characters is better balancing. Obviously the smaller a cast is the better balanced it will be, theoretically. I'd rather we keep everyone and get more characters, but if not possible then there's some obvious cuts to make (Pichu, Dr. Mario, half the Fire Emblem characters, etc), and more new characters is more important than keeping these guys imo.
 
Sorry for for not keeping up with the news, but have there been any new announcements for launch lineup or is it more or less the same?
 
Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
This is backwards thinking. "The Mario game sells well on this system so Mario must always sell system." This of course ignores the sales of those games and the sales of the console relative to all games. Mario made the NES a household name and the system went on to sell 60 million (a lot for that time). The SNES sold less despite having another Mario title. Why did it work for the NES and not the SNES. N64 comes out and sells EVEN LESS despite having another Mario game. And the first 3D one at that. Again, why did Mario do worse? And yes, Mario 64 sold less than World by a lot (20M vs 11M).
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I don't necessarily agree, but it is interesting that Wii and Switch both launched with new Zelda titles that were originally intended to be exclusive to the previous, poorly selling system, and both ended up being runaway successes. Maybe Zelda is a better launch title than Mario nowadays? Maybe people buy systems to play Zelda and Mario just sells well because he's along for the ride?

I don't think it's the case with SNES and N64 at all, but I could see it being a factor with Wii U and now Switch 2.
 
Archeops said:
Oh, and if you've ordered your Switch 2 from Walmart you may be shit out of luck. Word's been going around that Walmart oversold their initial shipment and they're canceling some orders.
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Walmart started taking payments last night around 10:30/11:30pm for the pre-orders, if you got that notificaiton/email then you're in the clear.
 
Never Scored said:
I don't necessarily agree, but it is interesting that Wii and Switch both launched with new Zelda titles that were originally intended to be exclusive to the previous, poorly selling system, and both ended up being runaway successes. Maybe Zelda is a better launch title than Mario nowadays? Maybe people buy systems to play Zelda and Mario just sells well because he's along for the ride?
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Both cases Journos really carried over the games, giving insane scores and hype for games who's significance is rapidly eroded by time. The only thing remaining from Twilight Princess is an ungodly amount of porn.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Didn't know you partook. Some like the simple pleasures of being able to move and swing your sword at the same time, unlike ubisoft Zelda.
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Ha, being able to move and swing your sword. What kind of fantasy world are you living in? No one can really do that.

It's like walking and chewing gum, the human brain is incapable of doing more than one thing at a time successfully.
 
Never Scored said:
Maybe people buy systems to play Zelda and Mario just sells well because he's along for the ride?
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Thats kind of my thinking on it. Its super obvious with Mario Kart as Mario Kart 8 is the best selling MK title and one of the worst selling ones. Mario is a franchise that's old enough to have reverence and will get sales but I don't think buy consoles anymore to get Mario (outside of fanboys of course).
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Both cases Journos really carried over the games, giving insane scores and hype for games who's significance is rapidly eroded by time. The only thing remaining from Twilight Princess is an ungodly amount of porn.
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Its really impossible to say since the last mainline Mario title to release at launch was 64, nearly thirty years ago. That said TP wasn't the big Wii game at launch, Wii Sports was and when you showed a Wii off to your friends you didn't show them Zelda, you showed them Wii Sports.

Edit: BotW punched above its weight for years though, you're wrong to say it "quickly eroded" or whatever, lots of exploration games still steal its glider ideas to this very day.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I know Nintendo think it can patent everything, but gliding was in games, including open world games, decades before BotW.
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Yes, I'm sure that all these games drew inspiration from "Ol' Jiggaboo Jackson's Xtreme Open World Glider Funtime", sitting pretty at 73k sales, and not breath of the wild at 34.5 million sales.
 
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